[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

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...hmmmmmm, that all could also fit in with your ‘perhaps there was a serial killer’ responsible for other similar unexplained Oslo deaths theory....

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Maybe she was a high class escort or something, it was a classy hotel had very rich guests, maybe the hotel knew why she was there and that's why they had "forgotten" to get a credit card from her, maybe she had accidentally died in the company of someone who had the means, power and pull to cover it up.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

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Maybe she was a high class escort or something, it was a classy hotel had very rich guests, maybe the hotel knew why she was there and that's why they had "forgotten" to get a credit card from her, maybe she had accidentally died in the company of someone who had the means, power and pull to cover it up.

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...maybe even one or more of the hotel staff helped with the cover up as well because the hotel allowed her to stay for specific high profile guests which wouldn’t look great for them either...?..wouldn’t that fit in perfectly as well...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

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...maybe even one or more of the hotel staff helped with the cover up as well because the hotel allowed her to stay for specific high profile guests which wouldn’t look great for them either...?..wouldn’t that fit in perfectly as well...

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It would actually, plus they had the records from the room key of how many times she had entered the room and there was one period of time when she'd been out of the room for 20 hours, maybe she was in somebody elses room and died there and she didn't actually come back to her room but was "put" back........ they really need us on this case, i think we've cracked it

[Smithy]

Gonna watch Ep 2 later but just re ep 1

If it was an assassination why chose such a messy way? Usually you’d expect a bullet to the head, clean and simple

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Gonna watch Ep 2 later but just re ep 1

If it was an assassination why chose such a messy way? Usually you’d expect a bullet to the head, clean and simple

That's exactly what I said as well

[Niamh.]

Not to mention all the attention and noise beating someone to death could cause, it doesn't scream professional hit to me unless of course he was taken somewhere private and was beaten to get information and then later dumped in the bin

[Niamh.]

As long as there's no alien story this time

I'll watch another 1 or 2 tonight

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

As long as there's no alien story this time

I'll watch another 1 or 2 tonight

...wellllllllllllllll.......they’re not exactly aliens buttttt...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...wellllllllllllllll.......they’re not exactly aliens buttttt...

oh god

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

oh god

...no seriously it is worth a watch because it’s after a tsunami and it shows so much actual footage ...it really is a must watch, it’s just all so devastating and a different type more personal related thing, rather than how we see things on the news...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

This is the exact case i was thinking of when watching episode one.

His strange behavior on the CCTV reminded me exactly of her behavior.

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And even if all his injuries were not consistent with just being moved around in the truck, who is to say he didn't have some sort of an accident, fell down some stairs maybe while in the middle of this paranoid break down and got into the bin himself while he was still alive? Or maybe he was acting erratically and ended up getting hit by a car and maybe the driver panicked and dumped his body?

Originally Posted by Ammi

...no seriously it is worth a watch because it’s after a tsunami and it shows so much actual footage ...it really is a must watch, it’s just all so devastating and a different type more personal related thing, rather than how we see things on the news...

Yeah I will do, is that ep.3?

[Niamh.]

Here's a good time line for Ep 2

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***the fact there was a second duvet found in her room that hadn't been there before is a bit odd, isn't it?***

As a norwegian I can clarify some of the details in case the coverage doesn't translate well. I'm also currently employed by a large hotel chain in Norway and my hotel is located in the outskirt of Oslo.

The rooms locking system detected the times a keycard was used to open the door to the room. I'll leave the times with possible explanations at the bottom of my comment.

Verdens Gang (VG) and Dagbladet (DB) are not typical tabloid newspapers, and they have a good reputation so the information in them is credible in my opinion.

She/whoever was in the room pressed ok on the remote to let the reception know that she had read the message.

The Winchester branded ammunition found in the bag was for the handgun that was used.

The handgun was a 9mm Browning semi-automatic produced in Belgium between 1990 and 1991.

She did not show any passport or other form of ID and asked to pay for her stay in cash, but the only time she actually paid for anything was when she gave an extra large tip for her food service (50 kroner, approx. 8 dollars at in 1995).

The door was locked from the inside and the keycards used to open it was left inside.

There was a second comforter that is seen in the pictures of the crime-scene, but it was never investigated.

The coroner claimed it was suspicious how there was large amounts of blood spatter, but none on the hands of the victim. She also had no bruising on her hands from the recoil of the weapon, nor any gunpowder residue.

Most of the evidence was thrown out between the first investigation and now, and the hotel threw out everything from the room as soon as the police finished gathering what they thought was necessary. This includes the second comforter as the police never filed it as evidence. As of now the police have dug up her grave to look for more evidence.

The keycard is not necessary to get out of a room, but you have to use it to get in. Here's a list of times a keycard was used to open the room.

At 22:44 on Wednesday, Jennifer opened the door to room 2805 for the first time. A little later, she (or someone else) must have left the room, because the card was used again at 00:21.

The next morning, Thursday, the card was used at 08:34. It is likely that she had eaten breakfast, but I have yet to find any witness accounts of it.

On Thursday around 13:00 the room was cleaned by Vigdis Valø and a 19-year old helper. They both agreed the room was empty in the interrogations that happened the next week. The door was not opened again until next morning at 08:50, neither by employees nor guests, which means Jennifer left the room once between 08:34 and 12:44 on Thursday, and didn't return until 08:50 the next day.

The next use of a key card was Friday at 08:50. This was a new key card code, so she must have been by the reception and extended her stay before this. A hotel employee saw her go into the room and just afterwards hang a "Do not disturb" sign on the door.

That card was last used at 11:03 the Friday morning.

Friday evening at 20:06, Jennifer ordered food from the hotel's room service. At 20:23 the food was delivered. Kristin Andersen, who brought the food, noticed that the room was very tidy. The room looked untouched, the bed as well. She used the word "sterile" in her testimony (?) on the case.

A security officer went to check on her. He heard a gunshot seconds after knocking on her door, and believing that two people were inside the room, he went back down and called the police instead of investigating himself. They found her body half an hour later.

The comment has been edited to correct errors and add more information.
https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedM...d_dead_in_her/

[Niamh.]

Ep 3

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hhhmmm not exactly an unsolved mystery is it? A very sad story what happened to that girl but over shadowing that is that absolutely mystifying stupidity of the justice system and whoever decided it would be a good idea to give any trust or rewards to a child rapist and murderer. It's just ****ing ludicrous, I felt so bad for her sister, how angry she must be at those people in charge, it's like pissing on her sisters memory really isn't it? Even if he's ever caught he will have had an almost full lifetime of being free

[Ammi]

...episode 3...

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...he did attempt to sexually assault/rape Mary Ellen btw...I didn’t feel inclined at first to look at any other details of the case but then I wanted to know as well as it hadn’t quite completely made sense that he’d shot her twice when his history was as a sexual predator...it was when she screamed that he shot her twice...and then obviously as the officer had said, he’d gone back with a brick in realising she was still alive...such an evil crime, which had rightly received a severe penalty...I don’t agree with death penalties, which was obviously abolished but then life sentences were meant to apply in stead for such heinous crimes...

....the craziness with the justice system as well was that it wasn’t even coming up that he was wanted/...that he’d escaped...so if he’d had a traffic offence, etc...which would have been a hope...?..the police wouldn’t have been alerted still after all of those years.../...incredible......

[Ammi]

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...it’s frustrating in an entirely different way, isn’t it...because there is no mystery but such a huge injustice ...

[Niamh.]

eP 3

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That one just made me mad, such a miscarriage of justice and his father a minister as well, "a man of God" covering for his child killing son. Gross. The whole story just left a really bad taste in my mouth

[Niamh.]

Never got a chance to watch one last night Ammi Liverpool won the match though

[Cherie]

I gave up on Jennifer in the end

half way through Mary Beth

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I gave up on Jennifer in the end

half way through Mary Beth

It was harder to get into when you couldn't really get to know her, so odd though the whole case was mysterious and how she managed to stay totally untraceable

[Niamh.]

Just putting on ep4 now

[Niamh.]

Ep4

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I really hate episodes like these ones, I wish they wouldn't put them in. I don't believe in ghosts but I'm very sorry for all those people's losses and maybe that helps them

Ep5

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tough to know what happened here, I didn't have a really strong vibe either way. The one thing that was annoying me about the murder theory time line though was, the theory was she was grabbed, driven further away in her own car, thrown into the lake and then her car brought back to the church.....but when her body was found her car keys were in her coat pocket so how could someone haven driven her car back?

Ep6

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oh these ones are so sad, not much to speculate on here really though as there was no clues at all. I know they're hoping the boys were stolen by someone childless looking for a child to raise but the thing that makes me think that isn't the case (or unlikely to be) is that the two boys were taken a few months a part. So - what? 2 different childless people decided to choose the same park and take a similar aged/sex child or the same person decided they now wanted 2 children so stole another 3 months later? Hhhhmmm I don't know.

So sad though, the mothers speaking about the boys is heartbreaking

[Saph]

I watched the first 3 last night. The Jack one didnt really interest me tbh.. I found the Jennifer one pretty interesting just because it was so anonymous and the fact that they think she might have been a secret agent.. the third one was frustrating because why on earth would they even let prisoners go shopping without supervision.. god knows how hes managed to escape for so long, could they not have threatened the dad who they clearly said knew where he was..

[Niamh.]

Ep3 - especially a ****ing child rapist/murderer @Saph, what the hell were they thinking? I hope her family sued the **** out of someone for allowing that to happen

[Smithy]

I’ve watched the first 3 but I haven’t found any of them as interesting as S1 tbh because there’s no leads or anything, with most of S1 it felt like you knew who had done it there was just a lack of evidence

[Niamh.]

Yeah, its the same all the way through tbh Smithy