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Old 11-08-2020, 03:29 PM #151
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One day I will accept my destiny and be crowned and all you peasants will be sorry

Poor Harry all those rumours about his parentage.
My brother often said I was the postman's because he and both my parents had dark hair and skin that actually tans and I was ginger with lily white skin. Although.....my mum did work for the Post Office
so it was you on the bus that day I was regaled completed with DNA evidence from a fat file that you were the rightful Queen, and that Liz and Philip would be ousted as people were going to march on the palace
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One day I will accept my destiny and be crowned and all you peasants will be sorry

Poor Harry all those rumours about his parentage.
My brother often said I was the postman's because he and both my parents had dark hair and skin that actually tans and I was ginger with lily white skin. Although.....my mum did work for the Post Office
...but yeah, poor Harry...he’s had that add on thing of knowing all the media and public gossip about his parentage ...
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so it was you on the bus that day I was regaled completed with DNA evidence from a fat file that you were the rightful Queen, and that Liz and Philip would be ousted as people were going to march on the palace
Ssssshhhh.....

Although I did once meet a lady myself on a train who told me she was the Queen of Sheeba, I curtsyed and everything. (I was 4 and would never sit with my mum because she was boring and so used to find someone far more interesting to talk at)
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I have always found the whole thing very odd, the idea that her Dad had no protection or guidance from the Palace seemed at odds with how carefully the Palace choreograph every move
Some believe (and it was in that other book from a few weeks back that I haven’t read yet -‘The Real Story’) that Meghan told Harry that she had had a troubled childhood with her family to empathise with his own childhood as a way of reeling him in - ‘the ‘we are in this together’ tactic.
She then had to keep Harry and her father well away from each other until she had the ring on her finger because her story would have been blown wide open.
I wouldn't put it past her.
Tbh I have never heard anything other than she had a very loving and even spoilt upbringing with every advantage given her by a hard working father.

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He has spent his entire life being called the ‘spare to the heir’ and his family ties being questioned and pulled apart, bearing in mind William is also a ginger, he’s always been thought of as second class to Will and now people find joy in torturing him and his wife, it’s tragic, I don’t blame him if he looks a bit sullen every now and then, wouldn’t you be?
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...gosh, I wonder why Lady Colin Campbell would have possibly written ‘the real story’ for Ł17.49 per hard copy volume...she’s also written about the Queen’s marriage and sex life, I think...
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I didn't rate Lady Colin Campbell as an author, though I find her amusing... but just had a look on Amazon - 416 ratings and rave reviews...
Getting it on my kindle....
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..Annie’s the rightful heir to the throne...?...I knew it...
No, she is just a ginger from Manchester.
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...she is amusing, I agree...she featured in the documentary at the weekend and it was obvious that she disapproved of Meghan as a royal bride...I would say it’s probably closer to fiction tbh...a gal’s making her pennies, though...
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...Annie isn’t ‘just’ anything...she’s a sensation.....
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[QUOTE=AnnieK;10894744]Off with his head :hmph

I see you as the queen in black adder
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A lot of the reviews are saying her book is well balanced and fair.
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...it can’t be balanced and fair because Lady Colin Campbell doesn’t know the ‘real story’ ...writing these ‘real stories’ is what she does....people will believe what they want to believe, though...that’s the only ‘real story’ I guess...how could anyone who has read it, possibly know if it was fair or balanced...I only go with what makes sense and that doesn’t...
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They can’t know - they can only go by what they have seen and read already and make up their own minds. We don't know yet who Lady Colin has spoken with, who her connections are etc. With this book, the reviewers seem to think she has been balanced as she has been quite fair to Meghan, with a mixture of criticism and understanding.
Same with Finding Freedom, the authors don’t know the real story either - only what the friends etc they have spoken to have told them, according to Meghan and Harry. But I never trust a book where the subjects themselves have led the narrative, especially about a couple who never once have taken the blame for anything…and the contents contain a lot of spite and point scoring, by all accounts.
But of course, I haven’t read either book yet myself and just some serialization of Finding Freedom.
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Yep, they are jumping on every latest bandwagon to make waves with their pontificating, trying to stay relevant on their own. If they led the private life they said they wanted there would be nothing for the press to report. They are embarrassing themselves.
They wanted their private life to be private, which it now is.

If you thought they were going to disappear never to be seen again then that's something you have misunderstood from the start.

Who knew wanting to do work for the good of millions of other people would attract such animosity.

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That is the 4th video I've seen of him this week pontificating earnestly about some weighty subject. Ffs Harry go and do something fun that makes the news like naked pool shenanigans, like you used to. It would do you the world of good.
Yet, if they were "having fun like naked pool shenanigans" you'd be slagging them off for that.
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This sums up the chip paper that will be Lady C's "book".
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...the thing is, we don’t know what fair and balanced would be because we don’t know what the ‘real story’ would be...and I don’t think that any of us would like to be judged by a ‘source’ who knew nothing in depth about our lives because the ‘sources’ in books like this are often very obscure...I mean if Meghan was a manipulative person for instance...then a ‘fair and balanced’ judgement of her as such, wouldn’t actually be accurate..and as the readers/reviewers don’t know Meghan or Harry, then they have no measure of fair or balanced....and everything can’t be ‘the real story’... there are so many real stories and all too conflicting or differing...what I don’t personally trust are stories which are commercially driven in their ‘truths’....
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all we can really do is judge them by their actions and if i were being kind i would describe them as naive
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This sums up the chip paper that will be Lady C's "book".
....ooops..’...I don’t deal with servants...’...
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...the thing is, we don’t know what fair and balanced would be because we don’t know what the ‘real story’ would be...and I don’t think that any of us would like to be judged by a ‘source’ who knew nothing in depth about our lives because the ‘sources’ in books like this are often very obscure...I mean if Meghan was a manipulative person for instance...then a ‘fair and balanced’ judgement of her as such, wouldn’t actually be accurate..and as the readers/reviewers don’t know Meghan or Harry, then they have no measure of fair or balanced....and everything can’t be ‘the real story’... there are so many real stories and all too conflicting or differing...what I don’t personally trust are stories which are commercially driven in their ‘truths’....
If I approached reading a biography in that way I would never have bothered reading any at all - it would be too exhausting. I'm a prolific reader and I read for enjoyment, not torture, and when I'm finished I'm left with whatever my overall impression is.
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...the thing is, we don’t know what fair and balanced would be because we don’t know what the ‘real story’ would be...and I don’t think that any of us would like to be judged by a ‘source’ who knew nothing in depth about our lives because the ‘sources’ in books like this are often very obscure...I mean if Meghan was a manipulative person for instance...then a ‘fair and balanced’ judgement of her as such, wouldn’t actually be accurate..and as the readers/reviewers don’t know Meghan or Harry, then they have no measure of fair or balanced....and everything can’t be ‘the real story’... there are so many real stories and all too conflicting or differing...what I don’t personally trust are stories which are commercially driven in their ‘truths’....
This for me.

I can't really get worked up about the Royals really.
They don't really affect me and I'll never know any of them, so will never really know what they think, feel or even are.

They are still however people.
I'd hate to be a Royal.
I think the life must be, while privileged, also unbearable too.

These 2 chose to slip off from the really active side of the Royal life.
So their privacy needs to be respected.

It was said earlier here that no way would it be, they went off and wouldn't be reported on again.
There's media who will always still want to know all about them.
Report on what they're doing
Then others wanting to maybe cash in on anything related to them.

As for the press.
Just gutter trash which I'd never hold as gospel, they'll twist anything to put sensation into the story even where there's possibly nothing.

I just wish these 2 well.
I think their privacy ought to be respected.
Whether I hear from them or about them is irrelevant to me, as they are irrelevant to myself anyway..

They've done nothing wrong and Meghan has done nothing substantiated that I can see, that warrants all the more acidic negativity towards her, from people and the media too.

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If I approached reading a biography in that way I would never have bothered reading any at all
If you read any biographies written by people who write them based on fourth-hand gossip and take it very seriously then that's a naive mistake.
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