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Just so we're clear, Twitter allows the following to post without question:

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... all of whom routinely promote and encourage mass terrorism and violence, but they ban the President of the US for telling people to go home.
...if that’s true, that those groups are encouraging mass terrorism and violence on their account...then it’s to report them, report the specific dangerous posts where they do that...not be of a mindset of, well that’s okay for other to do the same, then...there is no logic or sense at all in that mindset...
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I agree that anyone who either explicitly or implicitly encourages violent uprising should be removed, however...

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I don't think you're dumb enough to actually believe this so why be disingenuous? He was "subtly" (as subtle as a MAGA sign through a glass window) encouraging it all day on the day whilst pretending that he didn't agree with the violence (only to then hint again that he thought they were patriots doing the right thing), and only switched to "condemning it" at the last second in a last-minute effort to benefit himself.

I just don't believe that anyone can watch those videos of him smirking and gloating on the 6th and trul believe that he wasn't encouraging it, nor can his posts on the days leading up be seen as anything other than a call-to-arms MAGA dogwhistle. The latter, I think he was even still doing in that "condemnation" speech.
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they were planning to execute Pelosi and Pence on Wednesday, by hanging them on the gallows they had erected complete with noose. Meanwhile Trump was excitedly watching them on the TV having stirred this up for weeks and then refused to authorise federal forces to help the police out.



This has nothing to do with any other perpetrator. There is a clear and present danger of a coup in the USA, and specific action was required immediately

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If you're screaming about big tech now, but have no issue with what Murdoch has done over decades, and our future foxificaton later this year, then it's difficult to take you seriously.
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I agree that anyone who either explicitly or implicitly encourages violent uprising should be removed, however...



I don't think you're dumb enough to actually believe this so why be disingenuous? He was "subtly" (as subtle as a MAGA sign through a glass window) encouraging it all day on the day whilst pretending that he didn't agree with the violence (only to then hint again that he thought they were patriots doing the right thing), and only switched to "condemning it" at the last second in a last-minute effort to benefit himself.

I just don't believe that anyone can watch those videos of him smirking and gloating on the 6th and trul believe that he wasn't encouraging it, nor can his posts on the days leading up be seen as anything other than a call-to-arms MAGA dogwhistle. The latter, I think he was even still doing in that "condemnation" speech.
I will admit to stealing my post from a tweet I wilk also add Trump has pretty much steamrolled my opnion it'd just be funny if he somehow managed to stay on...

BUT if Twitter is going to say his lukewarm and insincere "condemnation" is partially culpable for their actions, they must also think people and groups outright encouraging the recent rioting and looting also share blame, and it's a shame they didn't seem to come down so much on such posts.
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If you're screaming about big tech now, but have no issue with what Murdoch has done over decades, and our future foxificaton later this year, then it's difficult to take you seriously.
I'm not a fan of any huge corporations, let alone those that control almost every news outlet

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they were planning to execute Pelosi and Pence on Wednesday, by hanging them on the gallows they had erected complete with noose. Meanwhile Trump was excitedly watching them on the TV having stirred this up for weeks and then refused to authorise federal forces to help the police out.



This has nothing to do with any other perpetrator. There is a clear and present danger of a coup in the USA, and specific action was required immediately
Oh come on. You can't possibly think they actually planned to use that prop gallows? It was more likely a feat of moronic dick-wagging.
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Oh come on. You can't possibly think they actually planned to use that prop gallows? It was more likely a feat of moronic dick-wagging.
oh, so are you of the opinion that they just went in to the capitol for a cup of tea?
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oh, so are you of the opinion that they just went in to the capitol for a cup of tea?
Not at all, their actions speak for themselves. But just look at it - there's no way that gallows is functional.
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Oh come on. You can't possibly think they actually planned to use that prop gallows? It was more likely a feat of moronic dick-wagging.
You just tried to lump in BLM with terrorism and now you're downplaying actual terrorism by saying that this was just a prop? When there were people with ties and plans to kidnap senators? When explosive devices were found?

I'm so bored of the both sides rhetoric, especially when it's this disingenuous.
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Is there another word for damaging or destroying hundreds of buildings and small businesses, and widespread burning and looting, and attacking police officers who are trying to keep the peace? When the riots are even triggered by a man getting shot for charging at the police with a knife, it makes it seem like they're just using any excuse.

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Sometimes there really are scumbags on both sides

The rioters and looters are in a way worse than the idiots who stormed the Capitol, because their mindless and aimless destruction should have been taken to the people behind the police brutality, not the world around them.


(I don't necessarily agree with the heading, but the facts it lays out are handy)
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Peaceful protesting is fine. Rioting isn't. It doesn't matter what they claimed to be "protesting" for if they take part in the riots.
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Is there another word for damaging or destroying hundreds of buildings and small businesses, and widespread burning and looting, and attacking police officers who are trying to keep the peace? When the riots are even triggered by a man getting shot for charging at the police with a knife, it makes it seem like they're just using any excuse.


Sometimes there really are scumbags on both sides

The rioters and looters are in a way worse than the idiots who stormed the Capitol, because their mindless and aimless destruction should have been taken to the people behind the police brutality, not the world around them.


(I don't necessarily agree with the heading, but the facts it lays out are handy)
You've lost touch with reality if you think looting is equivalent to attacking the bedrock of democracy. But hey, at least the 'I think both sides are bad' mask is slipping. You have always had a preference and you've always used the both sides **** to make the left look as bad as the right disingenuously. You've become radicalised and you don't even realise it, you're literally downplaying domestic terrorism, you're downplaying the fact that people who stormed the capitol had equipment on them to kidnap senators, to harm and kill with explosives. If you truly think that BLM is worse than that then you're truly a lost cause.

As for your ****ty propaganda, let's shred it piece by piece.

The first point, time frame doesn't matter, 9/11 lasted a few hours yet it had an acute effect on the world even 19 years later. Also protests lasted for months but there were far more peaceful protests than ones that descended into rioting. Many police departments in areas that descended into rioting pinpointed aggravation by far right elements as the cause of escalation. The domestic terrorists at the Capitol went with the intent to commit terrorist acts and they did just that.

Second point, there was plenty of people condemning the riots, including people within the BLM, the republicans focused on the riots like you do to simply undermine the message of the protests. Ultimately though, like the time frame point, it really isn't important who condemns what. The attack on the capitol is far worse than any looting and you're entitled to be wrong by believing that it isn't the case but that won't change the fact that you're wrong.

Third point, no one in the media encouraged riots, they encouraged peaceful protest and you're pushing a false narrative by saying that they encouraged looting.

Fourth point and fifth points, less force was used against the domestic terrorists than against BLM protesters. Less people died at Capitol because the police were practicing restraint while they did not during the BLM protests. Most of the people that died in the protests were protesters and you're right, there was a lack of sympathy for them, from the right and from you who obviously values property over lives. There was more sympathy for that murderer Kyle Rittenhouse from you and the right than there were for his victims who were made out to be aggressors and Kyle some innocent victim. There was more sympathy for that terrorist at Capitol who was shot for being a dumb moron than there was for all the victims of police brutality during the BLM protesters. If the BLM did what those terrorists did, the bodies of BLM would have littered the grounds. You cannot deny that given that in this picture itself, it shows that more people were killed protesting police violence than terrorists who stormed the ****ing Senate.

The rest of the points are the same really, spun facts, purposely omitted details that enable a false narrative of false equivalence.

At the end of the day, you are defending terrorists and their actions. You have no idea how radicalised you have become by doing that and I can only pity you for it.
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Peaceful protesting is fine. Rioting isn't. It doesn't matter what they claimed to be "protesting" for if they take part in the riots.
Yet storming the capital with bombs, ties to kidnap senators and a noose to hang them with is A-okay.
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Bemused is a more accurate word than hate.

They can't understand how they'd let themselves be divided and conquered. Why they constantly defend the establishment against their own people.

They'd rather defend big tech billionaires at the expense of freedom.

Crazy times we're living in. But historic times too.
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