[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Back in a previous life when I ran a forum,

Your posting style etc has always reminded me of someone who used to (co-)run a forum of which I was a member ... was your screenname at one point... an Egyptian god?

[Tom4784]

Those videos made the rounds a few days ago, they are deepfaked. You all are falling for it pretty easily.

Right wing losers making fake videos to get mad over because their grievances have no basis in reality. It's simply what the right wing is these days, too much brain rot.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Tom4784

Those videos made the rounds a few days ago, they are deepfaked. You all are falling for it pretty easily.

Right wing losers making fake videos to get mad over because their grievances have no basis in reality. It's simply what the right wing is these days, too much brain rot.

Deepfake ??? Really evidence please? .

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Tom4784

Those videos made the rounds a few days ago, they are deepfaked. You all are falling for it pretty easily.

Right wing losers making fake videos to get mad over because their grievances have no basis in reality. It's simply what the right wing is these days, too much brain rot.

See this is what happens when you spend too long on Discord .

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

See this is what happens when you spend too long on Discord .

Geez, I remember when you could actually come up with a decent retort. Extremism rots the brain, I guess.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Tom4784

Geez, I remember when you could actually come up with a decent retort. Extremism rots the brain, I guess.

It wasn't a retort it was an actual observation stated flippantly - the post quoted was completely off-the-wall, in a very Discord/Reddit/"social media algorithm" way. I'm not partisan at all in pointing that out - ask Alf, I'm always pointing out his Reddit/YouTube Conspiracy Wormhole/MAGA/Q/Savior Trump propaganda for what it is as well (he's not a fan of me doing that).

I also feel that I have some of the few balanced views on this issue on the whole site fanx .

I don't disagree AT ALL that these things are used and highlighted by the agenda-driven press to stoke the fires in the bellies of outrage, and for reasons that have little if anything to do with what's actually taken place. I'm just also uninvested enough to see that there's no "culture war" without two armies and that the "other side" is being played like a fiddle as well. Baited into defending the borderline indefensible, in the process bolstering the righteous indignation of those opposed.

It's a tale as old as time. Religion has been used to divide and conquer for as long as there's been civilization... and this is just a 21st century spin on the same mechanism.

These shows are obviously not happening "all over the place" - the people involved in this are very niche groups and don't by any stretch of the imagination represent that VAST majority of the LGBTQ community. People with a general axe to grind will try to imply that it is representative. They are wrong. And yet, because of "sides", people flock and scrabble to make excuses and defend something they'd never have tried to defend 5 years ago... because they don't want to lose a trench. All it does is make those people think that they're more right than ever. "Look they're all defending the cock-waggling baby strippers! I KNEW IT!!"

[Tom4784]

Always look at the lighting in videos pushed by right wing extremists, deepfakes can be convincing, but the difference in lighting is always the giveaway.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Tom4784

Always look at the lighting in videos pushed by right wing extremists, deepfakes can be convincing, but the difference in lighting is always the giveaway.

Which specific ones were deepfaked?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Tom4784

Always look at the lighting in videos pushed by right wing extremists, deepfakes can be convincing, but the difference in lighting is always the giveaway.

https://www.garbageday.email/p/deepf...d-as-you-think

"But, if you’re desperate for proof that this is real and not a deepfake, you can clearly see in the next shot that the floor, the mats, and the placement of the crowd all match other photos and videos of the event. And I don’t want to get all American Vandal on you, but you can even match up the walls. Also, there are additional photos and videos of the tagged performers being at this venue. And, once again, the event organizers have literally released a statement. And I’d have to assume that if they were the target of an elaborate AI-powered hoax, that would come up at some point. Also, if you were a right-wing maniac making a deepfake of a drag performance, why would you go out of your way to splice different footage of a performer who was at the actual event to make them look worse?"

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

https://www.garbageday.email/p/deepf...d-as-you-think

"But, if you’re desperate for proof that this is real and not a deepfake, you can clearly see in the next shot that the floor, the mats, and the placement of the crowd all match other photos and videos of the event. And I don’t want to get all American Vandal on you, but you can even match up the walls. Also, there are additional photos and videos of the tagged performers being at this venue. And, once again, the event organizers have literally released a statement. And I’d have to assume that if they were the target of an elaborate AI-powered hoax, that would come up at some point. Also, if you were a right-wing maniac making a deepfake of a drag performance, why would you go out of your way to splice different footage of a performer who was at the actual event to make them look worse?"

So the event wasn't for children and was literally advertised as a break from children for parents, and the right wing are making out that the opposite is true to prove a false point?

What I said still stands, right wing extremists inventing **** to be mad about.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Tom4784

So the event wasn't for children and was literally advertised as a break from children for parents, and the right wing are making out that the opposite is true to prove a false point?

What I said still stands, right wing extremists inventing **** to be mad about.

I think that's already been mentioned in the thread somewhere and certainly the question on why the mothers would bring their children to it was asked, I don't however think that takes any blame off the performers for going ahead with the show when they saw there were children there.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I think that's already been mentioned in the thread somewhere and certainly the question on why the mothers would bring their children to it was asked, I don't however think that takes any blame off the performers for going ahead with the show when they saw there were children there.

If a band gets paid to play an event, and the audience is different to what they expected, should they give up their time and fee to not perform? No, it's the fault of the organisers for allowing children in, and the fault of the parents for bringing the kids with them.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Tom4784

So the event wasn't for children and was literally advertised as a break from children for parents, and the right wing are making out that the opposite is true to prove a false point?

What I said still stands, right wing extremists inventing **** to be mad about.

But it wasn't a deepfake

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

But it wasn't a deepfake

It's still manufactured and misleading outrage for gullible fools to get mad about.

[Crimson Dynamo]

someone has been on the kool-aid

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

someone has been on the kool-aid

Says the guy that literally swallows any and all right wing propaganda without question as long as it tells him what he wants to hear. Your jibes are nothing but projection.

[Parmy]

Still people try and defend the indefensible. Pretty sad amd worrying tbh.

[Parmy]

This is how the honor oak in london worded their flyer...please pay attention to the first line.

"Drop the kids off" for an hour of fun storytelling magic, where they will learn about diversity, inclusivity and a world where they ALL belong!! A world where everything is a brighter, more colourful and let's be honest a lot more FABULOUS

[Parmy]

I guess the mothers happiness comes before their babies..

[Tom4784]

Women exist for more than just raising kids, Parmnion. Everyone needs a break at some point.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Tom4784

Women exist for more than just raising kids, Parmnion. Everyone needs a break at some point.

Perhaps they should have left the babies at home then so they could have that break.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Tom4784

Women exist for more than just raising kids, Parmnion. Everyone needs a break at some point.

watching a hairy pervert do the splits and simulate sex to small children is hardly a break

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Tom4784

Women exist for more than just raising kids, Parmnion. Everyone needs a break at some point.

God forbid they could organise a night out and get a babysitter, its what most normal parents do, not drag their kids along to watch inappropriate acts because they dont want to sing nursery rhymes

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Tom4784

Women exist for more than just raising kids, Parmnion. Everyone needs a break at some point.

Why are they taking their kids to this ... break from the kids?

If it was an event attended by adults only, no-one (with a brain) would care. But they took their small children to the event - that's the part people with which people have a problem. No matter how it was advertised

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Tom4784

Women exist for more than just raising kids, Parmnion. Everyone needs a break at some point.

Do why did they take the babies/ kids with them ??