[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Looks like Ursula from Little Mermaid

[Beso]

It cant be denied that, that is a manly hand grasp of those dollars.

[Beso]

That ones definatly heavier than a duck.

[Beso]

Imagine it though
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You are a mom, and you e dragged your many pamby husband along with the kids for your woke art project wedensday learning day...expecting a nice lean almost feminine looking drag queen. Then you get that..a cross between Victoria salts, evil edna, and an ephhilump....

Without a flask of camomile tea as well.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Imagine it though
.

You are a mom, and you e dragged your many pamby husband along with the kids for your woke art project wedensday learning day...expecting a nice lean almost feminine looking drag queen. Then you get that..a cross between Victoria salts, evil edna, and an ephhilump....

Without a flask of camomile tea as well.

Sadly, unlikely to have a partner let alone a husband…


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[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by parmnion

That ones definatly heavier than a duck.

" ... and therefore ..."

[Strictly Jake]

It's not for me. But if adults want to go and watch shows like this then that's up to them. It's organised like it's for babies though and I don't get that bit at all. It seems completely the wrong audience. Like if they were maybe dressed as Disney princesses or something and singing those sort of songs then it makes more sense. But they weren't. So I get why people are kicking off about it.

[Strictly Jake]

Also it's not completely on topic but circuses have been mentioned in the thread. We went as a family to a circus a few months back. There was a dwarf man. In the show they pretended he was a baby. He was dressed as a baby, he was being pushed around in a pram and there were baby crying noises being blasted out. The whole audience were in stunned silence, it seemed highly inappropriate. Does that make them anti dwarf? No. It was a completely inappropriate act, similar with this, because people are stunned and shocked by what the drag queens are doing in front of baby and toddlers does that make them anti gay? No.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Strictly Jake

Also it's not completely on topic but circuses have been mentioned in the thread. We went as a family to a circus a few months back. There was a dwarf man. In the show they pretended he was a baby. He was dressed as a baby, he was being pushed around in a pram and there were baby crying noises being blasted out. The whole audience were in stunned silence, it seemed highly inappropriate. Does that make them anti dwarf? No. It was a completely inappropriate act, similar with this, because people are stunned and shocked by what the drag queens are doing in front of baby and toddlers does that make them anti gay? No.

Completely off topic for a second, but it's good to see you back on the Forum.

[Strictly Jake]

Thanks Mock

[Beso]

https://www.facebook.com/10008593955...7262884120097/

[arista]

Originally Posted by parmnion

https://www.facebook.com/10008593955...7262884120097/

Yes Very Sexual


It would be better if they were fully clothed
like, at a Circus

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Strictly Jake

Also it's not completely on topic but circuses have been mentioned in the thread. We went as a family to a circus a few months back. There was a dwarf man. In the show they pretended he was a baby. He was dressed as a baby, he was being pushed around in a pram and there were baby crying noises being blasted out. The whole audience were in stunned silence, it seemed highly inappropriate. Does that make them anti dwarf? No. It was a completely inappropriate act, similar with this, because people are stunned and shocked by what the drag queens are doing in front of baby and toddlers does that make them anti gay? No.

Great post

Like I said Jake ....if this was female exotic dancers or men & women in revealing clothing together dancing suggestively ,it would still be wrong & innapropriate .

[Crimson Dynamo]

The fact that these gay men doing it dont see it is wholly inappropriate is very worrying

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The fact that these gay men doing it dont see it is wholly inappropriate is very worrying

You only have to look at them to realise that their judgement is impaired tbh


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[letmein]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The fact that these gay men doing it dont see it is wholly inappropriate is very worrying

Gay? Many of these dudes are trans or non-binary and all that jazz.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by letmein

Gay? Many of these dudes are trans or non-binary and all that jazz.

I don't think there was any real need to specify "gay" or anything else - the only relevant point it that they're adults, and it's concerning that any adult wouldn't see this as ranging from debatably inappropriate for infants (the fully clothed drag) to outright, unquestionably, extremely dodgy (the naked men in thongs barely concealing their ballsacks doing the splits in the air).

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I don't think there was any real need to specify "gay" or anything else - the only relevant point it that they're adults, and it's concerning that any adult wouldn't see this as ranging from debatably inappropriate for infants (the fully clothed drag) to outright, unquestionably, extremely dodgy (the naked men in thongs barely concealing their ballsacks doing the splits in the air).

Exactly and honestly it's concerning(and baffling) that people are defending that too, how does this kind of stuff help the LGBT movement? Why the need to make this kind of adult entertainment "for kids" I really don't get it unless there's a push to remove age boundaries too which is extremely concerning

[Cherie]

These acts are jumping in the bandwagon of no questions asked or you will lose your livelihood

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Exactly and honestly it's concerning(and baffling) that people are defending that too, how does this kind of stuff help the LGBT movement?

It doesn't and I think it does active harm - but to detach for a second and try to see it from a wider viewpoint I genuinely do understand why people are compelled to go into full-on "defense mode" and concede nothing. There's a clear feeling of "give them an inch and they'll take a mile" in the LGBT community at the moment, because the complicated factor is, there ARE of course genuinely hateful people and bigots increasingly jumping on the bandwagon with these things. People all of a sudden on the warpath with the LGBT community "in defense of women and children" when you know these people do not give a toss about women or children. And the religious zealots are increasingly wriggling out of the woodwork too.

So I get the instinct to "Hold the line" and front it out but it's basically having the opposite effect as far as I can see. It makes it all too easy for those people to say "look at what they're defending, they're all the same!".

I've said thoughout this thread ... if it wasn't such a hot-button and public topic, I really, REALLY doubt most of the people defending these shows wouldn't concede that it's not really appropriate entertainment for children.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

These acts are jumping in the bandwagon of no questions asked or you will lose your livelihood

We have to be very very careful that movements like this aren't used for nefarious reasons, it has happened in the past but people have either forgotten that or aren't aware. ***Disclaimer, I am BY NO MEANS suggesting that gay men are paedophiles, I'm saying that paedophiles will absolutely jump on the back of any movement they think will get them closer to normalising child exploitation and abuse. I didn't make up this story below, it actually happened. The LGBT movement should be more angry than anyone else.

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26352378

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

We have to be very very careful that movements like this aren't used for nefarious reasons, it has happened in the past but people have either forgotten that or aren't aware. ***Disclaimer, I am BY NO MEANS suggesting that gay men are paedophiles, I'm saying that paedophiles will absolutely jump on the back of any movement they think will get them closer to normalising child exploitation and abuse. I didn't make up this story below, it actually happened. The LGBT movement should be more angry than anyone else.

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26352378

I fully agree but as above I'm increasingly acknowledging that there's a risk of being blinkered to exactly the same on the flipside. Or to really just put the elephant in the room in the bluntest terms possible;

- Yes, paedophiles are jumping on the back of the LGBT movement.

- Yes, bigots, evangelical nutjobs and (frankly) eugenicists are jumping on the back of women's/children's rights and safeguarding.


It's going to culminate in something truly awful. I'm really starting to believe that.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I fully agree but as above I'm increasingly acknowledging that there's a risk of being blinkered to exactly the same on the flipside. Or to really just put the elephant in the room in the bluntest terms possible;

- Yes, paedophiles are jumping on the back of the LGBT movement.

- Yes, bigots, evangelical nutjobs and (frankly) eugenicists are jumping on the back of women's/children's rights and safeguarding.


It's going to culminate in something truly awful. I'm really starting to believe that.

I 100% agree with you on all fronts

[Crimson Dynamo]

The NY Times is currently internally imploding with the whole Trans row stuff

[user104658]

Not to get al Alf, but sometimes I swear it feels like it's all been nudged this way deliberately and there's just a tonne of collateral damage. Mostly amongst the young and the mentally/emotionally vulnerable. "Don't Look Up" etc.