[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Gutted….he played a good game but when you have Mollies in this world who get suckered in with a good looking guy it can help your game immensely. She deserved to lose.

I laughed my head off as it was so predictable , tiring and funny all at the same time , I knew Mollie would fck it all up and lose, i knew she'd become an emotional wreck . Jaz tried to help her and he brought up evidence and facts and she refused to listen... he even complimented her in good nature by saying he trusted her by his side , but she was a gullible fool who had a big crush on Harry and fell for his silly puppy dog eyes.

Only person i feel sorry for is Jaz, he played a really good game. Really clever and decent guy who i wish all the best for, and imo he deserved to win the most . Just think both him and Mollie could have shared the money and been celebrating with a glass of bubbly but she ruined it by shaking like a leaf and acting like a blubbering mess, i wonder why Claudia let her change her mind... i thought once the votes were 'locked in' that that was that. I guess Claudia wanted them all to be 100% sure .

Mollie must feel really dumb and slow after writing Harry down and then changing it, i knew she'd mess it all up. She'd lay down her life for jumped up squirt Harry.. and he sold her down the river and was using her the whole time, maybe when she watches it back she'll click and put 2 & 2 together as to why she was never murdered LOL .

But it was an entertaining final just as i suspected , all the way through Mollie is saying she'll never talk to Harry if he's a traitor etc etc . She treated Harry like he was her soul mate . It's weird she put that much faith and trust in a complete stranger she's only known a few weeks. And even when she had a smidge of doubt ... she got scared and changed her mind and let herself get manipulated once again. The players have really made it easy for Harry this year , and Mollie handed him the win in the palm of his hands.

[Mystic Mock]

Tbf I think that Harry deserved to win based off of the finale.

Evie tbf got harmed by the Shield twist, so there wasn't really much that she could do.

I like Jaz, but he ultimately was a coward at the game, and left it too late to start playing.

Andrew similarly was also a bit too cowardly imo, and left it too long to start attempting to flip the numbers on Harry.

And Mollie is the player that I feel was the most annoying contestant by the end, she sees how the final is playing out, yet she still voted Jaz out which makes no logical sense considering he was the only one that wanted to carry on banishing at that point.

Plus I didn't like her attitude towards Harry in the episode, he was assigned a role to be one of the Traitors, she was being really unfair to him imo.

Overall a very good Season, it definitely had some questionable production interference, but overall I had a lot of fun watching it.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbf I think that Harry deserved to win based off of the finale.

Evie tbf got harmed by the Shield twist, so there wasn't really much that she could do.

I like Jaz, but he ultimately was a coward at the game, and left it too late to start playing.

Andrew similarly was also a bit too cowardly imo, and left it too long to start attempting to flip the numbers on Harry.

And Mollie is the player that I feel was the most annoying contestant by the end, she sees how the final is playing out, yet she still voted Jaz out which makes no logical sense considering he was the only one that wanted to carry on banishing at that point.

Plus I didn't like her attitude towards Harry in the episode, he was assigned a role to be one of the Traitors, she was being really unfair to him imo.

Overall a very good Season, it definitely had some questionable production interference, but overall I had a lot of fun watching it.

Agree with all this. Jaz turned out to be such a coward and Mollie was so gullible. When Jaz went for 'red' at the final 3, she STILL thought Harry wasn't a traitor.
I wanted Andrew to win, but fair play, Harry deserved it, he was brilliant.
Claudia was wonderful....loved it all. Now on to the Australian one...

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by jet

Agree with all this. Jaz turned out to be such a coward and Mollie was so gullible. When Jaz went for 'red' at the final 3, she STILL thought Harry wasn't a traitor.
I wanted Andrew to win, but fair play, Harry deserved it, he was brilliant.
Claudia was wonderful....loved it all. Now on to the Australian one...

Jas had to protect himself to get to the end I feel because he was a target for the Traitors for most of the game...its just a shame Mollie didnt listen to him at the end.
It was very good...thoroughly enjoyed it.

...and tonight I am going to start watching the Australian version...

[UserSince2005]

Fuming. Complete set up. Why was Harry allowed to speak in Jaz’s chance to explain his vote? Why was Molly encouraged to change her vote by Claudia extending the time to vote?
Let me guess, Harry’s girlfriend’s dad is a BBC exec. The nepetism of that corporation is sick.

[Ammi]

…I guess other than Harry, the only person that I feel would have been a deserving winner would have been Andrew because he was the one who was in the position to out-Harry, Harry….but Harry had that great tactic of ‘becoming a faithful’ and gaining the trust of so many so that he was able to easily dismiss any suspicions cast his way…he didn’t even have to explain anything that much, because he was just able to brush anything aside that he needed to…when there was only the choice of either him or Jaz and some things were questionable against him but not Jaz, he was still wasn’t the one who was banished…it was a great game play…and Andrew couldn’t really have spelled it out more when he said that he thought Harry had been a Traitor from the beginning…/…an original…why would he say that…he would indicate traitors, yes but why would he indicate who an original was….and Mollie knew that she wasn’t a traitor so if there was one traitor left in, it could only be the one who voted to end the game so that they could take the money…any other vote from them wouldn’t be gameplay at that stage, it wouldn’t make any sense…

…it’s been a good season but often for all of the wrong reasons……I love Jaz but Harry gained so much trust and belief that it became lose/lose for him…and Harry was in a position to be the creator of who was left at the end so it all played out for him…

[UserSince2005]

The way Harry was so shook by Jaz was a joke. He could barely speak to respond to his interrogation. How he won is beyond me. Mollie makes Meryl look smart.

Jaz didn’t play a cowards game. As a faithful he had no knowledge of anything to be able to play hard.
If Jaz had shown his cards too early he would have been murdered.
And if he had brought it up before the round table with Harry then Harry would have come to the banishment with his gang ready to all vote Jaz out.
Jaz played the perfect game.
Unfortunately it was a game rigged against him.

[Ammi]

…Jaz was in a lose/lose position really because Harry had ‘lived a faithful life’ and avoided suspicion…so even when people could have looked at Harry, they didn’t…Harry knew that Jaz had suspected him before so credit to Jaz and how he played it that he managed to stay until the final…

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

The way Harry was so shook by Jaz was a joke. He could barely speak to respond to his interrogation. How he won is beyond me. Mollie makes Meryl look smart.

Jaz didn’t play a cowards game. As a faithful he had no knowledge of anything to be able to play hard.
If Jaz had shown his cards too early he would have been murdered.
And if he had brought it up before the round table with Harry then Harry would have come to the banishment with his gang ready to all vote Jaz out.
Jaz played the perfect game.
Unfortunately it was a game rigged against him.

Jaz should've rallied Evie and Andrew to vote Harry out at the top 5.

And at the top 4 Jaz should've sent Harry and Andrew to a tie break, instead of voting with Mollie and Harry.

I wanted Jaz to win the finale, but sadly he played the Gareth Southgate game.

[Swan]

I know people are against Harry winning, which is fine, but he did play the best game over all imo. Jaz was a great faithful, but he lacked a backbone earlier on in the game which i think cost him. People can say the producers wanted Harry to win, but at the end of the day it was him who gained all the trust from the faithfuls. It's up to them to call him out and banish him. They didn't. I feel bad for Mollie, but she was very naive in the end. Her soft spot for Harry cost her.

[jones89]

Originally Posted by Swan

I know people are against Harry winning, which is fine, but he did play the best game over all imo. Jaz was a great faithful, but he lacked a backbone earlier on in the game which i think cost him. People can say the producers wanted Harry to win, but at the end of the day it was him who gained all the trust from the faithfuls. It's up to them to call him out and banish him. They didn't. I feel bad for Mollie, but she was very naive in the end. Her soft spot for Harry cost her.

Yeah i agree, Harry deserved to win hands down, not saying that Jaz and Mollie didn’t, Jaz was a pretty good player, but Harry PLAYED them all and got to the end… and i don’t get why people would be mad about Harry winning.. Claudia clearly states if a traitor is left standing at the end then they win.. and Harry was still standing at the end after an amazing game so…

[rusticgal]

....and if Jas was the Traitor...why wouldn't he have ended the game???

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

....and if Jas was the Traitor...why wouldn't he have ended the game???

Harry didnt end the game either though

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Harry didnt end the game either though

Actually Harry tried ending the game after Andrew's banishment, but Jaz wanted to banish again....which would logically mean Jaz was a faithful and that he suspected Harry as a traitor,but Mollie was too naive and silly to put 2 & 2 together.

It was the perfect chance for Jaz & Mollie to win ,but Jaz never had a chance when Mollie was always on Harry's side. Even Claudia let her change her mind when she initially wrote Harry .

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Harry didnt end the game either though

He did after Andrew left....both Harry and Mollie ended the game...but Jas didnt.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Harry didnt end the game either though

At the top 3 Harry wanted to end the game.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Swan

I know people are against Harry winning, which is fine, but he did play the best game over all imo. Jaz was a great faithful, but he lacked a backbone earlier on in the game which i think cost him. People can say the producers wanted Harry to win, but at the end of the day it was him who gained all the trust from the faithfuls. It's up to them to call him out and banish him. They didn't. I feel bad for Mollie, but she was very naive in the end. Her soft spot for Harry cost her.

I thought Harry played a great game, just felt it a bit predictable that he won would have been great had there been a twist and Molly turned on Harry but it was not to be

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Swan

I know people are against Harry winning, which is fine, but he did play the best game over all imo. Jaz was a great faithful, but he lacked a backbone earlier on in the game which i think cost him. People can say the producers wanted Harry to win, but at the end of the day it was him who gained all the trust from the faithfuls. It's up to them to call him out and banish him. They didn't. I feel bad for Mollie, but she was very naive in the end. Her soft spot for Harry cost her.

Mollie to be brutal was an idiot the entire season.

How she couldn't tell at the top 3 that Jaz was a Faithful is beyond me.

[Nicky91]

this was a fun second series honestly, been binge watching this last few weeks with my dad


i bet Tracey (the clairvoyant) didn't see her getting ''murdered'' coming



Mollie really believed Harry was a faithful



Paul had a enormous ego which became his own downfall (good thing he got a cookie of his own dough, also betrayed by his fellow traitors )


first murder and banishment felt kinda ageist tbh