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Old 11-06-2024, 10:16 AM #151
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How on earth could anyone have missed the body that was in plain sight?

How could anyone not have smelled it?

How could any animal not have smelled it?

Unless the body was taken there then it was 'found'?
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Those posts are not my own words. I copied and pasted them.

Just thought they were worth sharing.

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Someone who is not well and in the heat could easily become disorientated very quickly, i don't think thats particularly out there given that he actually died.
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He was seen falling on CCTV though Alf?

Personally I think he was on a fact finding mission that went tragically wrong

I think he didn't take a wrong turn but wanted to do this walk in the searing heat

This is an interesting read

There are a number of unanswered questions surrounding the tragic death of Dr Michael Mosley, the television doctor and columnist, on the Greek island of Symi last week. Why did search teams in the area not find him sooner? Why did he not have his mobile phone with him, especially on a treacherous walk in the intense heat?

Mosley was no stranger to taking risks – usually on television, for the noble cause of enabling people to live better, healthier lives. One journalist called him “the great gonzo scientist of our times”. “He definitely had a sense of adventure, always wanted to try something out, and never worried about being proven wrong,” says Dr Giles Yeo, a geneticist who worked with Mosley on the BBC show Trust Me, I’m a Doctor and recently featured on Mosley’s podcast, Just One Thing. “He was the pioneer of trying stupid crazy things for TV.” This spirit of risk-taking extended beyond the professional to Mosley’s personal life, sometimes with serious consequences.

There are a number of unanswered questions surrounding the tragic death of Dr Michael Mosley, the television doctor and columnist, on the Greek island of Symi last week. Why did search teams in the area not find him sooner? Why did he not have his mobile phone with him, especially on a treacherous walk in the intense heat?

Mosley was no stranger to taking risks – usually on television, for the noble cause of enabling people to live better, healthier lives. One journalist called him “the great gonzo scientist of our times”. “He definitely had a sense of adventure, always wanted to try something out, and never worried about being proven wrong,” says Dr Giles Yeo, a geneticist who worked with Mosley on the BBC show Trust Me, I’m a Doctor and recently featured on Mosley’s podcast, Just One Thing. “He was the pioneer of trying stupid crazy things for TV.” This spirit of risk-taking extended beyond the professional to Mosley’s personal life, sometimes with serious consequences.

In May 2019, Mosley and his GP wife, Dr Clare Bailey Mosley, spent the weekend in Cornwall with Mosley’s older brother John. The weather was unseasonably wet and cold, but that didn’t stop the couple from taking a dip in the freezing sea.

“We’re well used to it, but after swimming around for a few minutes, we reckoned it was too chilly even for us – and challenged each other to a race back to the shore. I remember thinking: ‘I am definitely going to be able to beat Clare to the land.’ And then it all went blank,” he said at the time. “The next thing I remember is being in A&E at hospital in Truro, with Clare sitting beside me looking extremely concerned.”

Mosley had emerged from the water confused and disorientated, asking repeatedly whether it was 2017, and whether he had passed out. His wife was concerned he had had a mini-stroke – known as a transient ischaemic attack, or TIA – which occurs when the blood flow is temporarily cut off to an area of the brain. It is not as serious as a full-blown stroke, but can be a precursor to one.

“I didn’t have any obvious signs of physical or facial weakness, nor was my speech slurred – both telltale signs of a TIA and a stroke,” he said. “By this point I was lucid and the only thing that was obviously wrong with me was the fact that I had no memory of how I’d got there, or what had happened to me.”

After he was examined, a senior doctor said that rather than a fit or a stroke, Mosley was suffering from a condition called transient global amnesia – a sudden but temporary interruption to short-term memory – brought on by cold water swimming. It is a rare condition that can be triggered by intense physical activity, sex, sudden exposure to very hot or cold water or heightened stress. After the incident, Mosley said he would not go cold water swimming alone again.

“The serious point here is, don’t go cold water swimming by yourself, particularly if you’re not used to it, because there are risks,” he said. “You know, particularly if you’re unfit, you could have a heart attack, drop dead. You could have your memory wiped. Who knows? So try and do this sort of thing with someone else.”

That was not the only time Mosley pushed his body to the limit. Throughout his TV career, he subjected himself to extreme self-experiments in the name of making science more accessible (and, of course, in the name of great TV).


For the BBC documentary Infested! he swallowed tapeworms and put a leech on his arm; for Inside the Human Body he injected himself with snake venom. He also ate a black pudding made from his own blood; took the magic mushroom hallucinogen psilocybin on camera; and had parts of his brain “switched off” by transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS). These weren’t just gimmicks – Mosley insisted that “generally speaking, everything I do has a substantial basis to it”.

However, his wife vetoed some outlandish experiments, such as a plan to infect himself with pubic lice. “Clare generally [prevented] him doing anything ‘too daft’,” his friend Tim Spector wrote in this newspaper following his death. “But he did plenty of crazy stuff anyway, from eating tapeworms, to long-term fasts, to ice baths and staying awake for days on end. Channel 4 had said he couldn’t do any more cold water stunts because the insurance was becoming too high.”

It was this sense of adventure and gung-ho attitude that made him a national treasure. Added Spector: “I think this combination of recklessness and his humble, calm and self-deprecating style as he carefully explained complex science in simple terms, were why the public loved him.”


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Not making sense this.

Michael Mosely went on a boat trip from Pedi to Saint Nikolas beach with his wife and friends.

Instead of staying for the afternoon on the pristine beach with his wife and friends he decides to walk back home to Symi via Pedi at 13:30 in the midday sun.

He then 'get's lost' walking back when clearly the route back to Symi was over mountains and the sea bay would not be on your right side.

So unless he lost all sense of perspective you would have easily known you were on the wrong route.

Yet he continued with his walk to Agia Marina and then died just 60 metres away from the beach bar and resort? This is whole thing stinks.

Something very 'Praia de Luz' about it all

Alf he was very hot
the Sun was burning him


Thats what you Silly fella
are Missing


No Hot Sun
he would have been alive

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Those posts are not my own words. I copied and pasted them.

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Pathetic of you Alf.
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You post the words of others 10 times a day when you post the mainstream headlines.

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Doctor Hilary Jones has paid tribute to Michael Mosley after his death was confirmed as a result of natural causes.

The 67-year-old's body was found on Sunday following an extensive search on the Greek island of Symi where the TV doctor disappeared after going for a walk.

Fellow TV doctor Jones, 70, talked about Mosley's death on Tuesday as he warned holidaymakers to take precautions while in hot countries.

Mosley was tragically believed to be just yards from safety when he died following a difficult walk in the heat, and is believed to have suffered from heat exhaustion before passing away.

Presenter Lorraine Kelly remarked: "So many people have come out and said you know, he changed their lives, he helped them to change their diets."
"Oh, he was much-loved," Jones agreed, to which Kelly asked: "But how much do we know about what actually happened? Because the thing is he was just so close to getting help."

"Yeah, absolutely," Jones confirmed. "So the pathologist has suggested that it's almost certain that he died of heat exhaustion or heat stroke.

"Clearly, this is a loss of life through misadventure. If he took the wrong turning then that was unfortunate.

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"But there's a possibility that he challenged himself to be adventurous, he was an adventurous man."

"He was, he pushed himself all the time!" Kelly pointed out.

"And it may be that he pushed himself in the hottest part of the day, doing vigorous exercise," Jones explained.

He continued: "Now, the general advice is you don't do vigorous exercise in the hottest part of the day, you carry water, you don't wear dark clothes - all of which he didn't do."

"Like I said, he was so close to safety, wasn't he?" Kelly reiterated. "You know when you see where he was found and how close he was, it's just so sad. But I honestly think you can't underestimate the heat."

"Dehydration is very insidious," Jones remarked. "We talk about dehydration a lot, even in this country where it's not very hot. It's not even 20 degrees here, it was 40 there at the hottest part of the day.

"So if you're climbing a hill and you're stepping from rock to rock, that parasol he had - his arms would have been trying to balance himself, it wouldn't have been very effective. He was wearing dark clothes.
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Interesting, perhaps he was planning to do a feature on the impact of climate change by showing how much our bodies struggle in hot temperatures
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Interesting, perhaps he was planning to do a feature on the impact of climate change by showing how much our bodies struggle in hot temperatures
I definately think this is what he was doing, the villa he was staying at was 20 minutes from the beach even if he took a wrong turn he would have realised after 20 minutes he had done this and turned back, and didnt tell anyone as they would have talked him out of it...
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Doctor Hilary Jones has paid tribute to Michael Mosley after his death was confirmed as a result of natural causes.

The 67-year-old's body was found on Sunday following an extensive search on the Greek island of Symi where the TV doctor disappeared after going for a walk.

Fellow TV doctor Jones, 70, talked about Mosley's death on Tuesday as he warned holidaymakers to take precautions while in hot countries.

Mosley was tragically believed to be just yards from safety when he died following a difficult walk in the heat, and is believed to have suffered from heat exhaustion before passing away.

Presenter Lorraine Kelly remarked: "So many people have come out and said you know, he changed their lives, he helped them to change their diets."
"Oh, he was much-loved," Jones agreed, to which Kelly asked: "But how much do we know about what actually happened? Because the thing is he was just so close to getting help."

"Yeah, absolutely," Jones confirmed. "So the pathologist has suggested that it's almost certain that he died of heat exhaustion or heat stroke.

"Clearly, this is a loss of life through misadventure. If he took the wrong turning then that was unfortunate.

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"But there's a possibility that he challenged himself to be adventurous, he was an adventurous man."

"He was, he pushed himself all the time!" Kelly pointed out.

"And it may be that he pushed himself in the hottest part of the day, doing vigorous exercise," Jones explained.

He continued: "Now, the general advice is you don't do vigorous exercise in the hottest part of the day, you carry water, you don't wear dark clothes - all of which he didn't do."

"Like I said, he was so close to safety, wasn't he?" Kelly reiterated. "You know when you see where he was found and how close he was, it's just so sad. But I honestly think you can't underestimate the heat."

"Dehydration is very insidious," Jones remarked. "We talk about dehydration a lot, even in this country where it's not very hot. It's not even 20 degrees here, it was 40 there at the hottest part of the day.

"So if you're climbing a hill and you're stepping from rock to rock, that parasol he had - his arms would have been trying to balance himself, it wouldn't have been very effective. He was wearing dark clothes.

I saw some stats about dehydration a few weeks ago …

Something crazy like if you are 10% dehydrated your energy levels are 90% depleted !!


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Its like if you get sleepy on a long drive the solution is have a really good slug of water and it revives you, same like say in the afternoon if you feel tired take a full glass of water and 5 mins later the tiredness will have gone away
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A 59-year-old American tourist has been missing since Tuesday after going on a
solo hike in the Greek island of Amorgos, just days after British television host
and celebrity doctor Michael Mosley was found dead after going out walking in
Greece.

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Michael Mosley lay undiscovered for five days, CCTV shows

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what on earth??
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Sure LT


He was in a zone no one goes on.

So it make sense
he died in the Extense Heat




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and celebrity doctor Michael Mosley was found dead after going out walking in
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He must have a Mobile Phone
But another Fool going out in the Heat
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Another tourist has been found dead on a Greek island and three more are missing amid a spate of casualties believed to be linked to soaring temperatures.

The tourist, who has been identified as a 55-year-old American by local media but not yet been named, was last seen on Tuesday. His body was found in the sea by a beachgoer near the port of Mathraki.

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People just don't realise the strain heat puts on your body. There is a reason why natives to hot countries have a kip in the heat of the day
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Mmmm these extreme conditions are ideal for amy unscrupulous people who want someone out of their lives forever … rather than murdering someone and disposing of the body they can restrain them in the sun somewhere for a short while then leave the body somewhere easily found .. murder wouldn’t be a consideration


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People just don't realise the strain heat puts on your body. There is a reason why natives to hot countries have a kip in the heat of the day
…and hence the phrase…’only mad dogs and Englishmen….’…etc…
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Or in this case. Doctors.
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