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Old 26-06-2016, 02:09 PM #1
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A second referendum is pointless, the damage is done. People will reap what they have sown.
why dont you emigrate to an EU country if you are so upset?

like say Belgium
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why dont you emigrate to an EU country if you are so upset?

like say Belgium
My head-of-6th-year at school had a catchphrase; "If you don't like it, leave!"

... He was an arsehole. And he looked like the third Chuckle brother.
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Maybe English people and some on here should take note of Scotland after the indy ref

a much more passionate affair than the EU


we just got on with it and despite the mail and a few other media outlets predicting riots

nowt happened

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“In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.”

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“In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.”

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Patriotism is a foolish concept that exists only to shame and discredit anyone who dares think differently.

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Patriotism is a foolish concept that exists only to shame and discredit anyone who dares think differently.

So you are having a go at the Irish at the Euros and the Welsh?


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So you are having a go at the Irish at the Euros and the Welsh?


I'm having a go at anyone who lets their patriotism blind them to sense and reason.
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I'm having a go at anyone who lets their patriotism blind them to sense and reason.

No its more than that
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Who gives a **** about being patriotic, you're simply born and live in a place, what is there to really be prideful about?
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Looks like a lying twonk to me......
A hero that hopefully will be knighted
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Looks like a lying twonk to me......
Can there be any more compelling an endorsement then, that the man is more than worthy of a Knighthood.

(I use no question mark because the question is rhetorical.)
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Unless you're nigel farage...
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A liar that as misled the gullible and has expressed a desire to dismantle the NHS which plenty of UK citizens rely on to live? What a hero.
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A liar that as misled the gullible and has expressed a desire to dismantle the NHS which plenty of UK citizens rely on to live? What a hero.
We are referring to Farage - NOT Fuhrer Juncker and his underlings Cameron and Osborne.
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We are referring to Farage - NOT Fuhrer Juncker and his underlings Cameron and Osborne.
My comment still stands, patriotism is a dangerous thing.
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Farage has outed himself as a bare-faced liar, not two days ago. He had a ****ing BUS with his lies splattered on the side. Truth indeed. You have a very odd definition of it. "Lie your face off to achieve whatever your goal happens to be and then take it all back" - the mantra of most if not all politicians - and it has been irrefutably proven that Farage is no different.
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Farage has outed himself as a bare-faced liar, not two days ago. He had a ****ing BUS with his lies splattered on the side. Truth indeed. You have a very odd definition of it. "Lie your face off to achieve whatever your goal happens to be and then take it all back" - the mantra of most if not all politicians - and it has been irrefutably proven that Farage is no different.
He has single handedly brought about this ref, against the full force of the establishment

to not recognise his feat is just bitter sour grapes

It is an amazing achievement and he has written himself into the history books
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He has single handedly brought about this ref, against the full force of the establishment

to not recognise his feat is just bitter sour grapes

It is an amazing achievement and he has written himself into the history books
It is impressive that he managed to push his agenda against the stream of bigger fish who didn't want it, I'll grant you that.

Has absolutely no bearing on the fact that the campaign focus points he used to convince voters to vote alongside him, were lies. He backtracked on them IMMEDIATELY after the result, meaning that he knew they were lies before the poll. He spread them knowingly, and willingly, to manipulate and to achieve his personal wishes.

And you would Knight the man .

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It is impressive that he managed to push his agenda against the stream of bigger fish who didn't want it, I'll grant you that.

Has absolutely no bearing on the fact that the campaign focus points he used to convince voters to vote alongside him, were lies. He backtracked on them IMMEDIATELY after the result, meaning that he knew they were lies before the poll. He spread them knowingly, and willingly, to manipulate and to achieve his personal wishes.

And you would Knight the man .
I would, a decent honest man

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