[user104658]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

well only because those with side effects from the vaccine don't go to hospital

Because they don't need to go to hospital . Honestly it wasn't the best I've ever felt but it was literally feeling a bit tired/run down and a slight headache for a few days, it's nothing to be that concerned about. Honestly I had worse 2 or 3 times a week when I was a uni student, courtesy of Jack Daniels

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Yes, I felt extremely tired after my covid jab.
But it only lasted a day, I was better the next day.

[arista]

Posted on other thread,as well.

[arista]

Yes get some from Russia
Macron and Merkel.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes get some from Russia
Macron and Merkel.

oh well Putin has proven during coronacrisis to be quite trustworthy, and willing to help

ask Italy

Sputnik is also quite effective too

[Cherry Christmas]

Germany have now paused AZ for under 60s after 31 cases (9 deaths) in 2.7 million doses given, the rare blood clot is naturally occurring and is not new and there is no causal link so far to AZ vaccine, and has so far seems to be affecting only women, what a strange vaccine this is to be so picky?

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Germany have now paused AZ for under 60s after 31 cases (9 deaths) in 2.7 million doses given, the rare blood clot is naturally occurring and is not new and there is no causal link so far to AZ vaccine, and has so far seems to be affecting only women, what a strange vaccine this is to be so picky?

majority is women, and a few men, but all under 60's


yes all people's lives matter, so of course you can have some of those saying ''only 9 deaths in 2.7 million doses'' but that is not ethical, you need to protect all lives


''no causal link to AZ'' ok fair enough no evidence true, but it seems to be more than just coincidence now anyway (not just in germany, also earlier in italy, and scandinavian countries whom don't want to use AZ entirely after these reports of blood clots)

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

majority is women, and a few men, but all under 60's


yes all people's lives matter, so of course you can have some of those saying ''only 9 deaths in 2.7 million doses'' but that is not ethical, you need to protect all lives


''no causal link to AZ'' ok fair enough no evidence true, but it seems to be more than just coincidence now anyway (not just in germany, also earlier in italy, and scandinavian countries whom don't want to use AZ entirely after these reports of blood clots)

Give it to countries that will use it then. Asking someone of age 60 to use it is when they won't give it to someone aged 59 is unethical in my view.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Give it to countries that will use it then. Asking someone of age 60 to use it is when they won't give it to someone aged 59 is unethical in my view.

no, since there are no reports of blood clots over 60's

[bots]

Russia has announced it has registered what it says is the world's first coronavirus vaccine specifically for animals.

While scientists say there is currently no evidence that animals play a significant role in spreading the disease to people, infections have been confirmed in various species worldwide.

These include dogs, cats, apes and even mink.

To address these infections, scientists are developing Covid-19 vaccines that are specially designed for animals.

[Nicky91]

yes pets but would be more wise to look into this for some more evidence in spreading it to people before this ''pet covid vaccine''


i mean animals on its own the virus well symptoms for them are more asymptomatic, or at least what i saw at start of pandemic, in zoo's with some lions (sneezing, coughing mostly)

[arista]

[People vaccinated up to and including 31 March 2021

First dose: 31,147,444

Second dose: 4,513,458]


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Cherry Christmas]

30 cases of blood clots now reported in 18 million AZ doses administered.

he MHRA said on Thursday there had been "22 reports of cerebral venous sinus thrombosis (CVST) and 8 reports of other thrombosis events with low platelets".

The figures cover 9 December 2020 to 21 March this year, when 15.8 million doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine had been administered, and around 2.2 million second doses.


"The number and nature of suspected adverse reactions reported so far are not unusual in comparison to other types of routinely used vaccines," said the MHRA report.

Its said the most common side effects reported for both the Pfizer and Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccines were "injection-site reactions" such as a sore arm, and general flu-like symptoms like headache, chills, aching, fatigue and nausea.

These are normal reactions to any vaccine as the body produces an immune response and should disappear after a day or two, said the MHRA.

It said the side effects are reported more frequently in younger people.


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...bs/ar-BB1fetU2

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: there were 5 reports of blood clots few days after AZ vaccine jab


but then again that is a small amount, 5 - 400.000 AZ doses administered


these reports are all women below 65

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Netherlands: there were 5 reports of blood clots few days after AZ vaccine jab


but then again that is a small amount, 5 - 400.000 AZ doses administered


these reports are all women below 65

But they would have the Blood Clots ANYWAY

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by arista

But they would have the Blood Clots ANYWAY

There is more risk taking the pill, but it's just accepted

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

There is more risk taking the pill, but it's just accepted

You're also like 10x more likely to be in a serious car crash than to suffer an embolism after a vaccine and people literally don't think twice about hopping in a car, several times a day.

We (humans) have generally poor risk perception, basically. We automatically perceive "weird new things" (like a vaccine in a global pandemic) to be more risky than "everyday things" (driving a car, swimming in the ocean, drinking alcohol...) when the cold hard data shows that those things are actually much more likely to kill or injure you.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

You're also like 10x more likely to be in a serious car crash than to suffer an embolism after a vaccine and people literally don't think twice about hopping in a car, several times a day.

We (humans) have generally poor risk perception, basically. We automatically perceive "weird new things" (like a vaccine in a global pandemic) to be more risky than "everyday things" (driving a car, swimming in the ocean, drinking alcohol...) when the cold hard data shows that those things are actually much more likely to kill or injure you.

most of whom probably got in the car to have a vaccine ... i wonder if the AZ vaccine is also responsible for more traffic accidents ... i bet it is

[arista]

Take Note NICKY
us Workers in the UK
are Funding you

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

You're also like 10x more likely to be in a serious car crash than to suffer an embolism after a vaccine and people literally don't think twice about hopping in a car, several times a day.



We (humans) have generally poor risk perception, basically. We automatically perceive "weird new things" (like a vaccine in a global pandemic) to be more risky than "everyday things" (driving a car, swimming in the ocean, drinking alcohol...) when the cold hard data shows that those things are actually much more likely to kill or injure you.

I hope it’s far more than TEN times more likely !!! Is that just a figure you’ve plucked from the stars ?


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[Nicky91]

Netherlands: Municipal Health Service or (GGD's) here indefinitely halt administering AZ vaccine to every age group


in Netherlands not all elderly are vaccinated as of now, and with the recent reports of how dangerous AZ is, better to halt with that one entirely

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I hope it’s far more than TEN times more likely !!! Is that just a figure you’ve plucked from the stars ?


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It was a rough estimation to illustrate I didn't check the actual numbers, and I was thinking "a serious car crash at some point in a given time e.g. in each year" not a serious crash at any time in your life. The chances of being in a serious non-fatal crash are actually quite high. Anecdotally I'd say maybe about 1 in 5 to 10? I know loads of people who have been. I was in a write-off crash in a friend's car as a teenager . No one seriously hurt though, cracked rib and whiplash.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It was a rough estimation to illustrate I didn't check the actual numbers, and I was thinking "a serious car crash at some point in a given time e.g. in each year" not a serious crash at any time in your life. The chances of being in a serious non-fatal crash are actually quite high. Anecdotally I'd say maybe about 1 in 5 to 10? I know loads of people who have been. I was in a write-off crash in a friend's car as a teenager . No one seriously hurt though, cracked rib and whiplash.

Ah ..


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[Nicky91]

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

she 'opened up' to say the vaccination programme hadn't reached their age group yet