[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

"Pause jabs until safety is certain"

See now THIS is exactly what I have been talking about, for years, when it comes to the Big Vaccine Debate. It has been pushed for years that there are "zero" risks to vaccination, to encourage better uptake, but it is a lie. It has always been a lie. There is NO SUCH THING as a 100% safe vaccine, or 100% safe with ANY medication. Every single vaccine you have ever had or put into your child came with a risk - and people would know that if they read the information sheet they get with the jab.

Miniscule risks, yes. Risks worth taking absolutely. Everyone should vaccinate.

But the propaganda worked a bit too well and people believed that their MMR, whooping cough, TB etc. vaccinations were indeed 100% safe and so now that they're faced with the idea of there being a an infantesimally small risk with this vaccine, they think this is abnormal and something to be concerned about. It isn't. Vaccines are 99.999% safe. They are not 100% safe... they never have been.

Yup.

Ridiculous really.

[Cherie]

Who is pausing jabs? missed that one

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Who is pausing jabs? missed that one

I think TS is talking about the Euro News Conference, before


Pause under 30's in the EU

[arista]

They could Mix and Match
the 2nd Vaccine
some experts say.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

I think TS is talking about the Euro News Conference, before


Pause under 30's in the EU

oh right, why do that when they have other vaccines to fall back on

[arista]

UK also to pause on under 30's for AZ


Moderna for them
should be in full stock by then

[arista]

Bavaria, Germany
is now buying Russia Sputnick V vaccine


Just on CNN HD

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

"Pause jabs until safety is certain"

See now THIS is exactly what I have been talking about, for years, when it comes to the Big Vaccine Debate. It has been pushed for years that there are "zero" risks to vaccination, to encourage better uptake, but it is a lie. It has always been a lie. There is NO SUCH THING as a 100% safe vaccine, or 100% safe with ANY medication. Every single vaccine you have ever had or put into your child came with a risk - and people would know that if they read the information sheet they get with the jab.

Miniscule risks, yes. Risks worth taking absolutely. Everyone should vaccinate.

But the propaganda worked a bit too well and people believed that their MMR, whooping cough, TB etc. vaccinations were indeed 100% safe and so now that they're faced with the idea of there being a an infantesimally small risk with this vaccine, they think this is abnormal and something to be concerned about. It isn't. Vaccines are 99.999% safe. They are not 100% safe... they never have been.

Oddly enough this morning on LBC they were discussing the blood clot aspect with AZ and the presenter suggested taking aspirin with the jab ( blood thinner) and the doctor being interviewed said that there were more risks with the aspirin than the AZ vaccine ...


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

4 cases in one million and no proven link yet



Benefits outweigh the risk



As a precaution under 30s will be offered an different vaccine as the risk of death from covid is slim, think this is more to encourage uptake



Zizu they are talking about clots in covid

Thanks .. I missed the program sadly


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

oh yes @Zizu, my aunt has her 2nd jab last Wed, very minor side effects i.e sore arm

Well that’s promising !!




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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

They could Mix and Match
the 2nd Vaccine
some experts say.

Ooooh I don’t like the sound of that at all !!!!!


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[user104658]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Oddly enough this morning on LBC they were discussing the blood clot aspect with AZ and the presenter suggested taking aspirin with the jab ( blood thinner) and the doctor being interviewed said that there were more risks with the aspirin than the AZ vaccine ...


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Well, exactly... all sorts of potential side effects from everyday over the counter meds like paracetamol, aspirin, ibuprofen...

[Zizu]

Are there any figures showing how many Covid deaths ( UK or Worldwide ) are people who REFUSED the vaccine when offered ??


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[arista]

[We WILL hit July 31 jabs target: Covid vaccine rollout
is still on track even if under-30s are given
alternative to Oxford inoculation,
ministers pledge... as experts admit
blood clot risk is tiny
Government ministers remain confident
of hitting July 31 vaccination target date
There is enough supply of Pfizer
and Moderna jabs to inoculate all under-30s
Experts have advised against young
people taking Oxford/AstraZeneca shot due to
possibility of rare blood clots
Boris Johnson vowed there would be
no delay to the lockdown-easing plans]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rs-pledge.html

[arista]

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[arista]

[Germany will side-step EU and negotiate directly
for Russia’s Sputnik V jab to salvage its faltering
vaccination program
Jens Spahn thought to have told EU ministers
he will begin jab talks with Russia
Comes after EU Commission said
it would not enter preliminary negotiations
Talks will establish how many jabs
Russia can supply and when, sources said
But Germany would not actually buy shots
until EU grants regulatory approval]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-vaccines.html

[Cherie]

1 in 2,000 chance of getting a blood clot if you are on the contraceptive pill
1, in 1,000 of developing a clot from flying
1 in 229,000 of getting a blood clot from AZ, though no proven link as yet

[bots]

any medication has side effects, and they all have rare serious side effects. If I were young, i would probably wait and see how it all pans out before getting a jab, but for old farts like me, it would be daft not to get it

[arista]

African Union has now dropped Plans to buy
Vaccines from Serum Institute Of India
Will now buy from USA Johnson & Johnson.

Makes sense as such a long Delay
on India's AZ orders
which they now need for India.

[Vanessa]

I'm still having my second vaccine.
All medication have a risk.

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: 8 more reports of thrombosis after AZ vaccine, also with new reports it is about women between age of 23 and 65