[Crimson Dynamo]

Scotland lifting all its restrictions Monday now that the pandemic is moving into its endemic state in UK and that omicron has peaked and they realised they over-reacted to poor data as per normal in case they got the blame for anything

[Crimson Dynamo]

[arista]

[Zizu]

https://twitter.com/business/status/...416676353?s=21


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[arista]

Yes Delta-Omicron I wonder if it's spreading.
Hard to track.

[Zizu]

Soooooo ..... I've been feeling poorly throughout the night and just tested POSITIVE !!



Started with a sore throat and a headache yesterday and a bit of an annoying , throat clearing cough . The headache is a little better but now I've got a sore chesty cough , sore eyelids and feel proper rough .

I'm already experiencing worse symptoms than the wife has had - I expected to get a similarly easy ride if I got it .


Anyways I've just taken some paracetamol and I'm gonna try and sleep my way through this



Dammit !!!!!


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[bots]

Take care Zizu. Get a good rest and think positively, you get a few days off ! But seriously, the best thing to do is rest and sleep

[Cherie]

Bad luck Zizu hope you feel better soon

Annie how is Matthew and have you avoided it so far?

[Alf]

How's Covid going? Is it still a thing?

Is it getting quieter or have I just not been interested in it lately? I can't tell.

[AnnieK]

Matthew is fine now thanks Cherie....bit sniffly and BORED!

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Alf

How's Covid going? Is it still a thing?

Is it getting quieter or have I just not been interested in it lately? I can't tell.

It’s difficult to tell ... if I survive past the weekend I’ll give you an update


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[LaLaLand]

My sister tested positive on Sunday so we’re all isolating just incase.

We’re all negative so far (daily testing) and thankfully she’s just as though she’s got a slight cold so.

[Alf]

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Originally Posted by Zizu

It’s difficult to tell ... if I survive past the weekend I’ll give you an update


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Drink lots of tea. That's the most important thing (at least 6 or 7 cups a day)

Chicken soup, Lemsip, Vix vapor rub, paracetamol and a packet of Lockets and you'll be fine in four to five days (that's less than a week)

I'm no trained doctor, I'm just talking from experience from when I've had man flu.

[MTVN]

Get well soon Zizu

Glad your son is all recovered Annie

[Alf]

Originally Posted by LaLaLand

My sister tested positive on Sunday so we’re all isolating just incase.

We’re all negative so far (daily testing) and thankfully she’s just as though she’s got a slight cold so.

"Got a slight cold"

Youtube video

[Alf]

Youtube video

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

You need to be more careful with wording Bots, I honestly thing semi-misinformation like this actually ends up bolstering and driving the skeptics more than anuthing else.

Omicron doesn't "give you immunity" to Delta or any other strain, it does increase immunity levels overall in the community which increases herd immunity which is of course vital to ever overcoming Covid, but saying "Getting Omicrom gives you Delta immunity" is at best a massive exaggeration. It makes it far less LIKELY that you'll get any Covid strain in the short term and increases your chances of any infection being mild in the medium-to-long term. Phrasing it like this makes it sounds like it gives full immunity, which only takes a few examples of people getting it twice for the skeptics to declare it all lies.

If you have been exposed to Omicron the antibodies from Omicron gives you back protection against Delta - one of the reasons Delta has been replaced in the UK (now 97% Omicron in cases)

see 25.41 from todays talk

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[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

If you have been exposed to Omicron the antibodies from Omicron gives you back protection against Delta - one of the reasons Delta has been replaced in the UK (now 97% Omicron in cases)



see 25.41 from todays talk

Youtube video

Yes I'm aware of that, but stating that it gives you immunity or makes you immune leads 1) people to believe that you can't catch Covid if you've had it before (false) and 2) those same people to declare it all nonsense as soon as they see someone get Covid twice.

It increases your protection against Covid, it bolsters your immune system against Covid, it does not "make you immune" to any strain of Covid.

[user104658]

Also, my gosh, everyone needs to stop regarding Dr John Campbell as the full stop on Covid.

His videos are good, he does a great job of explaining the science and stats in a simple form, and breaking down the complexities of the situation to make it accessible to a broad audience. There's no denying that.

He is NOT however the Gospel of Truth when it comes to Covid19. He's just putting the science in simpler English for people who are struggling to understand it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Also, my gosh, everyone needs to stop regarding Dr John Campbell as the full stop on Covid.

His videos are good, he does a great job of explaining the science and stats in a simple form, and breaking down the complexities of the situation to make it accessible to a broad audience. There's no denying that.

He is NOT however the Gospel of Truth when it comes to Covid19. He's just putting the science in simpler English for people who are struggling to understand it.

No he only explains the science and unlike for example Sage he welcomes the scientific community to analyze all he says and challenge and or corrects and he will then discuss that on his next talk

[user104658]

Exactly. He gives his take on the data that is available to everyone. I don't think he claims anything else but his videos are being linked to as "The Facts" when they in reality are just his musings and interpretations. Non-expert ones too just like the rest of us - yes he is a doctor, but he's neither a virologist nor an epidemiologist.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Exactly. He gives his take on the data that is available to everyone. I don't think he claims anything else but his videos are being linked to as "The Facts" when they in reality are just his musings and interpretations. Non-expert ones too just like the rest of us - yes he is a doctor, but he's neither a virologist nor an epidemiologist.

well if you find any better, more accurate and more up to date info then please post it

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

well if you find any better, more accurate and more up to date info then please post it

What's posted isn't the problem, posting it as facts/conclusions is the problem. I won't be doing that with any info and I'm saying that everyone should take it with a large pinch of salt when anyone else does.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Exactly. He gives his take on the data that is available to everyone. I don't think he claims anything else but his videos are being linked to as "The Facts" when they in reality are just his musings and interpretations. Non-expert ones too just like the rest of us - yes he is a doctor, but he's neither a virologist nor an epidemiologist.

This exactly ^


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

What's posted isn't the problem, posting it as facts/conclusions is the problem. I won't be doing that with any info and I'm saying that everyone should take it with a large pinch of salt when anyone else does.

When you post a youtube video daily to millions of people and the scientific community then we shall see..