[Zizu]

One of my colleagues at work had had one jab then was due to have her second jab just before the half term holiday but decided to put it off until AFTER the break .. she’s an intelligent lady and the reason she gave was that she was really bad for a few days after the first jab and wanted to enjoy her break with her family ...


You guessed it .. she’s been off work all week and really, really poorly and her break was completely ruined anyways .


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[user104658]

Originally Posted by Zizu

One of my colleagues at work had had one jab then was due to have her second jab just before the half term holiday but decided to put it off until AFTER the break .. she’s an intelligent lady and the reason she gave was that she was really bad for a few days after the first jab and wanted to enjoy her break with her family ...


You guessed it .. she’s been off work all week and really, really poorly and her break was completely ruined anyways .


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TO BE FAAIIIIIR
(I'm assuming non-Covid illness?)

If she got ill so soon after it was due she was probably already ill at that point, just not symptomatic, and you shouldn't really get a vaccine if you're in the process of fighting another bug. So probably just as well she skipped it.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

TO BE FAAIIIIIR
(I'm assuming non-Covid illness?)

If she got ill so soon after it was due she was probably already ill at that point, just not symptomatic, and you shouldn't really get a vaccine if you're in the process of fighting another bug. So probably just as well she skipped it.

She’s actually got Covid19 I should have made it clearer sorry


She was perfectly well when it was due but she passed on the opportunity of the second jab .. but then tested positive and she’s been very poorly for nearly two weeks now

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[Cherie]

Mr C has had his email now as well, we are both just coming up to 8 weeks post first vaccine couldn't get him booked in at the same time

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Zizu

She’s actually got Covid19 I should have made it clearer sorry


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Ahh well it would have made no difference then; I think recommendations are to NOT get vaccinated if you currently have Covid (it makes no difference basically, waste of a dose), and to wait 3 months after having it to get vaccinated. Although that's for first dose, I'm not actually 100% sure about 2nd dose.

Assuming she recovers fine, the natural immune response + first dose will probably take her to two-dose immunity levels for several months anyway...

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Ahh well it would have made no difference then; I think recommendations are to NOT get vaccinated if you currently have Covid (it makes no difference basically, waste of a dose), and to wait 3 months after having it to get vaccinated. Although that's for first dose, I'm not actually 100% sure about 2nd dose.

Assuming she recovers fine, the natural immune response + first dose will probably take her to two-dose immunity levels for several months anyway...

Interesting


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[bots]

nice one, getting the 2nd jab as quickly as possible seems to be the most sensible strategy

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

nice one, getting the 2nd jab as quickly as possible seems to be the most sensible strategy

Well. Sort of. They did find that efficacy is slightly better if you wait 8 weeks, though they can give it any time after 3 weeks, and up to 12(+, it seems). So if you DON'T think you're at high risk of catching it (e.g. you WFH/limit going out/are not in a hotspot area) then most sensible is probably to get it as close to 8 weeks as possible. If you think you're at risk of exposure (e.g. working with the public, in a hotspot area, just can't resist the pub) then yes ASAP after 3 weeks is sensible.

[Tom4784]

I had my vaccine earlier today, I've got an aching arm but that's about it so far. I had a panic at first since I have a phobia of needles that relates to something that happened when I was younger but I got through it. By the end of August I'll be fully vaccinated which will be a relief.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I had my vaccine earlier today, I've got an aching arm but that's about it so far. I had a panic at first since I have a phobia of needles that relates to something that happened when I was younger but I got through it. By the end of August I'll be fully vaccinated which will be a relief.

…Super Dezzy..(…the first step …)….well done, I’m so pleased for you…you didn’t just overcome your fear for the vaccine, you overcame it completely, which is no small thing……

[bots]

i think a lot of us have an aversion to needles. My approach was to look the other way and told them just to get on with it as quickly as possible

[Ammi]

…yeah, needles aren’t something that we would prefer to have stuck into us…I don’t have a phobia, though …it’s another layer of difficulty for those who do have and can actually prevent from having the vaccine in some cases…there are sites with help suggestions for that if anyone else feels huge anxieties about it….

[user104658]

I’m not bothered about needles really, plus the tiny little vaccine needle is nothing compared to the big chonky boi needle you get when they’re taking bloods (or donating blood).

Last time I had to give bloods (my “I’m an old man now” checkup when I turned 35) the nurse made an absolute MESS of my arm with the bloods needle. Horrendous bruising.

The vaccine needle is barely a scratch.

[Ammi]

…that’s the thing with phobias, they don’t have a level of ‘rational’ attached to them…so very easily create those panic attacks and those fears will have prevented some from having their vaccines so far, I would say…

[Ammi]

…I’ve had so many needles for so many different reasons in my life, if I was a Marvel character, I’d probably be Acupuncture Woman….

[bots]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…that’s the thing with phobias, they don’t have a level of ‘rational’ attached to them…so very easily create those panic attacks and those fears will have prevented some from having their vaccines so far, I would say…

it's a similar thing with going to the dentist. Some people would rather have tooth pain than go near a dentist chair. If you have a genuine phobia it's very difficult to overcome it

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it's a similar thing with going to the dentist. Some people would rather have tooth pain than go near a dentist chair. If you have a genuine phobia it's very difficult to overcome it

…strangely I have a dentist appointment this morning, it’s the first one in over a year as my practise have only begun regular routine appointments again since COVID days…I don’t have any anxieties about the dentist bit itself but I’m really struggling with someone being so up close and personal to my face…my regular dentist left just before the COVID times so it’s a complete stranger as well…and I think that maybe that’s the bit that’s creating the most anxiety, that I’ve never seen this person before so haven’t built up any level of trust with him…

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it's a similar thing with going to the dentist. Some people would rather have tooth pain than go near a dentist chair. If you have a genuine phobia it's very difficult to overcome it

…yeah, that’s what Dezzy said…that he had a phobia and that’s such a difficult thing to overcome to the extent that it’s been the cause of some not yet having any vaccinations…

[Cherie]

I had my second jab yesterday morning, fully expected to wake up with a sore arm but nothing so far

I did ask why I was called as I am under 50 (just :worry) but she said individual surgeries were calling if they had done all their over 50s

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…that’s the thing with phobias, they don’t have a level of ‘rational’ attached to them…so very easily create those panic attacks and those fears will have prevented some from having their vaccines so far, I would say…

Yeah, it's not pain that bothers me (The needle itself felt like being scratched with a particularly dull finger nail) I just get queasy about things going into my skin. I was a bit shaky for a few minutes afterwards while I waited out the 15 minutes, I think the people on hand were a bit worried for me

[Tom4784]

I also seem to have little in the way of symptoms which is nice, my arm is aching but the rest of my family were bedridden so I've got off lucky.

[Zizu]

Sky News reporting that one vaccination is thought to give just 33% cover against the Delta / Indian variant


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[user104658]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Sky News reporting that one vaccination is thought to give just 33% cover against the Delta / Indian variant


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That's been known for a while, stats were posted on here over a week ago. 33% one dose, they originally said 67% AZ and 93% Pfizer after second dose, although I believe latest figures actually place both around 85%.

[arista]

[Cherie]

All over 18s will be called by end of week