[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Sticks

Why would they be prosecuting her for slander if she was?

She is a known liar.

She lied about her boss to deflect attention away from her and her then boyfriend.

No. She "lied" about her boss because the brutal Italian police were Beating her until she agreed that her boss was guilty. It was the Italian Police that suspected her boss, and they tortured her for 10 hours including both mental and physical abuse until she finally agreed with their scenario. Then when it was proven that her boss was innocent, to save face, they claimed that it was her who was lying, when it fact it was the italian cops all along who forced her to point the finger at her boss.

Why did it take 10 hours of interrogation before she pointed the finger at her boss? If she was going to lie, why didn't she point the finger at him right away? If she had a plot to point the finger at her boss why did it take 10 hours of police torture before she pointed the finger at her boss? It's because the police wanted her to say it was her bioss, and they beat her until she said what they wanted her to say.


I've followed the entire case closely, and there is not a single shred of evidence that points to Amanda or Raffaele in the murder at all.

The man that is guilty of killing Meredith is already in jail serving 16 years for her murder. His name is Rudy Guede.

Why is it that Rudy Guede's finger prints were all over the entire crime scene , but Amanda or Raffaele's finger prints were nowhere to be found? Can you explain how someone can only erase their own fingerprints, and still leave thousands of finger prints by Rudy Guede? It makes no sense.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by lostalex

the Italian Police make Guantanamo Bay look like a summer camp. They tortured her. And now they are SUING her basically for telling the world about how they tortured her.

Italy is a 3rd world country. There's no doubt about that any more.

Let's remember that originally the prosecution accussed her of being a satanic WITCH. This is a country that still thinks calling a woman a witch is an acceptable form of prosecution.

this is a country where Berlusconi is not in jail, even though it's obvious he raped a child. Why does anyone take anything from Italy seriously anymore? Italy, who's closest relationship is Russia.

Not sure that's entirely accurate.. Berlusconi is currently standing trial as well

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Not sure that's entirely accurate.. Berlusconi is currently standing trial as well

well it's my understanding that he is back in politics recently... he's being treated like a serious candidate for his party...

[MTVN]

He is running again for Prime Minister but it's very unlikely he'll be voted in, he'll have to contend for election while fighting this current court case as well

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by MTVN

He is running again for Prime Minister but it's very unlikely he'll be voted in, he'll have to contend for election while fighting this current court case as well

yea, also wasn't the prosecutor that first called Amanda a "witch" and claimed she was performing a "satanic ritual" wasn't he also being investigated for corruption? what ever happened with that?

The level of corruption in the italian political and judicial system are more than clear to me. We all know how *******ed the Italian system is. Anyone with half a brain knows. (no offense Sticks)

[Sticks]

Today is the day, hopefully the Italian Supreme court will overturn that monstrosity of an appeal that freed Amanda Knox

See here on the BBC

Prosecutors argue that the October 2011 acquittals failed to take into account other key evidence against Miss Knox and Mr Sollecito.

[SharkAttack]

Originally Posted by Sticks

Today is the day, hopefully the Italian Supreme court will overturn that monstrosity of an appeal that freed Amanda Knox

See here on the BBC

Democratic courts are slow and have several appeals and waiting, and trials, and delays with more waiting for evidence, and recesses. Years pass, and then it's still ongoing. I know that's there for the protection of people, but it does not make for good news watching.

[Nedusa]

No chance of any appeal being turned over in this case... Be rest assured this case is do e and dusted.

I do not honestly believe the Italian authorities would dare to take this course of action after everything that has happened in this case. To overturn this appeal would create a serious rift between Italy and the US.

The US would never recognise such a move and would certainly never allow her to be extradited back to Italy. It is certainly not in Italy's interests to go down this road..!!!

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21936308

Italy's highest court has ordered US student Amanda Knox and her former boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito to face a retrial over the 2007 killing of Briton Meredith Kercher.

Prosecutors appealed and the Court of Cassation overturned the acquittals.

Addressing the court on Monday, they urged the judges to "make sure the final curtain does not drop on this shocking and dire crime".

Miss Knox's Italian lawyer, Luciano Ghirga, said on Monday her client was "very anxious" about the latest hearing.

Miss Knox lives in Seattle and a retrial is likely to take place in absentia, as the US is unlikely to extradite her, analysts say.

[Jords]

fgs

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21936308

Miss Knox said the news was "painful" but she was "confident in the truth".

Italian law cannot compel Miss Knox, who lives in Seattle, to return for the re-running of her appeal.

If she is convicted, Italy could seek her extradition.

In a statement, Miss Knox said: "It was painful to receive the news that the Italian Supreme Court decided to send my case back for revision when the prosecution's theory of my involvement in Meredith's murder has been repeatedly revealed to be completely unfounded and unfair."

She added: "No matter what happens, my family and I will face this continuing legal battle as we always have, confident in the truth and with our heads held high in the face of wrongful accusations and unreasonable adversity."

Confidence unfounded .....

[Sticks]

With the overturning of the acquittal this eans Amanda Knox is a Convicted Murderer

She murdered Meredith because she refused to take part in Amanda's sordid sex game, exactly as the prosecution says.

If the US president cares a fig for rule of law and Justice, this convicted murderer will be put on a plane in chains back to Italy.

Amanda Fox in the eyes of the law is guilty of murdering Meredith Kercher, that is what the Italian Supreme court has said, vindicating the original prosecutors.

Does anyone know if there is an E-petition to ask the PM to press Obama for her extradition to Italy?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Sticks

With the overturning of the acquittal this eans Amanda Knox is a Convicted Murderer

She murdered Meredith because she refused to take part in Amanda's sordid sex game, exactly as the prosecution says.

If the US president cares a fig for rule of law and Justice, this convicted murderer will be put on a plane in chains back to Italy.

Amanda Fox in the eyes of the law is guilty of murdering Meredith Kercher, that is what the Italian Supreme court has said, vindicating the original prosecutors.

Does anyone know if there is an E-petition to ask the PM to press Obama for her extradition to Italy?

Meredith's family really are despicable creatures for pressing this. They can't accept that their daughter was just raped and murdered by a drifter who is already being punished for his crime, instead they need some grand conspiracy involving satanism, or maybe it's because they want to be able to sue Amanda Knox and get money from her family.

Meredith would be very ashamed of her family. They don't belong in any respectable courtroom, they belong on the Jeremy Kyle show. imho.

This whole thing has been a farce. Amanda and Rafaelle have been the only respectable characters in this whole sordid story. Shame on the Italian and British tabloid media, and shame on the Kercher family.

[Nedusa]

The evidence in this case was flawed along with the police investigation, I never believed these two would plan to trap a good friend into a Satanic ritual and then rape and murder her. The prosecution's case was full of holes and I was shocked when they were both found guilty. I am happy the case was overturned on appeal but outraged they had to stay in prison for over 4 years. The Italian authorities have a lot to answer for in this case.

As for the latest developments to overturn the appeal and re-instate the guilty verdicts well this is too much and I hope the defence teams in this case now have the backing of US officials at the highest levels and that they say to the Italians in no uncertain terms enough is enough. The convictions were and still are unsafe and as such these two people will never be allowed to be extradicted back to Italy for another Kangaroo trial.

The Italian Police & Judiciary need to be severely chastised over this whole sad incident and it made very clear to them that International Law will not tolerate such second rate flawed, corrupt investigations/trials in a supposed modern democratic European country...!!!!!

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

The evidence in this case was flawed along with the police investigation, I never believed these two would plan to trap a good friend into a Satanic ritual and then rape and murder her. The prosecution's case was full of holes and I was shocked when they were both found guilty. I am happy the case was overturned on appeal but outraged they had to stay in prison for over 4 years. The Italian authorities have a lot to answer for in this case.

As for the latest developments to overturn the appeal and re-instate the guilty verdicts well this is too much and I hope the defence teams in this case now have the backing of US officials at the highest levels and that they say to the Italians in no uncertain terms enough is enough. The convictions were and still are unsafe and as such these two people will never be allowed to be extradicted back to Italy for another Kangaroo trial.

The Italian Police & Judiciary need to be severely chastised over this whole sad incident and it made very clear to them that International Law will not tolerate such second rate flawed, corrupt investigations/trials in a supposed modern democratic European country...!!!!!

perfect post.

I don't see how anyone that has actually looked at all of the evidence could come to any other conclusion. How can there be thousands of fingerprints from Rudy Guede, but none from Amanda and Rafealle. I still haven't heard any of the Kercher family, or the prosecution, or people like Sticks explain how it's possible to only erase your own finger prints but leave someone else's behind.

How do you wipe surfaces and clean surfaces of your own finger prints, and leave the finger prints of someone else behind? it makes no sense. Italy is just embarassed because of what a mess they've made in this case, and frankly, i feel sorry for the many innocent Italians in jail that don't have the same kind of media interest and the Knox family's efforts to fight this. i wonder if even my own family would fight for me as hard as they have fought for her. They truly are a very good family to fight for her so hard, even mortgaging their house to pay for lawyers. The Knox family have been amazing, she is very lucky to have such a great family.

I am very critical of the American justice system for many reasons, but this case has definitely made me appreciate the American justice system. Now i have to admit, at least it's not as bad as the Italian justice system. It could be a LOT worse.

[Tom4784]

It's a waste of time, I can't imagine them being able to achieve anything at this stage and even if they could I doubt they'd actually ever be able to extradite her now she's back in the US.

[Sticks]

Rafealle is in Italy so he can be locked up and good riddence

If Americans even care about RULE OF LAW!!! or obsolete concepts like justice, they will put Amanda Knox on a plane in handcuffs back to Italy to serve the rest of her sentence for the cold blooded murder of Meredith Kercher.

There was plenty of other evidence, like the odd behaviour and the lies Amanda told to pass the blame. I am not even sure the man serving time even did the murder, and I suspect he could be totally innocent of this crime. He just happens not to be white.

(Check out the US penal system with the number of non whites in prison compared to whites)

The ruling from the Italian supreme court has totally vindicated the prosecution case and shown so called concerns over forensics to be a total red herring cooked up by a defence team clutching at non existent straws!!! The evidence against Amanda Knox is compelling, total and damming.

The Kercher family have been dignified in their grief while actions of the parents of Amanda have been totally reprehensible. They have even committed slander, just like Amanda has done against the police claiming falsely that they beat her. How can anyone believe a compulsive and convicted slanderer like Amanda Knox.

If the Knox family had had any shred of decency, they would have disinherited and disowned their murdering daughter and let her rot for the crime she has been rightly convicted of

Justice for Meredith!
Extradite Amanda Knox NOW!!

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Sticks

There was plenty of other evidence, like the odd behaviour and the lies Amanda told to pass the blame.

Odd behavior is not EVIDENCE, and who are you to determine what is odd behavior in that situation? And the only lies Amanda told were after 10 hours of "interrogation" (which if it were in Guantanamo would be called "torture") by the Italian Police. Maybe if you had been locked in a small room and physically abused for 10 hours you'd say whatever you can to make them stop.

[Sticks]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Odd behavior is not EVIDENCE, and who are you to determine what is odd behavior in that situation? And the only lies Amanda told were after 10 hours of "interrogation" (which if it were in Guantanamo would be called "torture") by the Italian Police. Maybe if you had been locked in a small room and physically abused for 10 hours you'd say whatever you can to make them stop.

And that so called interrogation was another pack of lies told by Amanda Knox, it never happened and she has been convicted of slander for saying it happened

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Sticks

And that so called interrogation was another pack of lies told by Amanda Knox, it never happened and she has been convicted of slander for saying it happened

She was convicted of slander by the same people that abused her. That's like asking an oil company to estimate the cost of their own oil spill.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Sticks

Rafealle is in Italy so he can be locked up and good riddence

If Americans even care about RULE OF LAW!!! or obsolete concepts like justice, they will put Amanda Knox on a plane in handcuffs back to Italy to serve the rest of her sentence for the cold blooded murder of Meredith Kercher.

There was plenty of other evidence, like the odd behaviour and the lies Amanda told to pass the blame. I am not even sure the man serving time even did the murder, and I suspect he could be totally innocent of this crime. He just happens not to be white.

(Check out the US penal system with the number of non whites in prison compared to whites)

The ruling from the Italian supreme court has totally vindicated the prosecution case and shown so called concerns over forensics to be a total red herring cooked up by a defence team clutching at non existent straws!!! The evidence against Amanda Knox is compelling, total and damming.

The Kercher family have been dignified in their grief while actions of the parents of Amanda have been totally reprehensible. They have even committed slander, just like Amanda has done against the police claiming falsely that they beat her. How can anyone believe a compulsive and convicted slanderer like Amanda Knox.

If the Knox family had had any shred of decency, they would have disinherited and disowned their murdering daughter and let her rot for the crime she has been rightly convicted of

Justice for Meredith!
Extradite Amanda Knox NOW!!

Get a grip.... Your ridiculous trolling posts are fooling nobody... !!! You don't believe Amanda Knox is guilty for one second. You have followed this case and are well aware of the shortfalls in the evidence and the high degree of corruption and incompetence shown by both the Italian Police and the Italian courts.

No... I think you just enjoy playing devils advocate to make the people who do actually care about this story jump through hoops replying to your ever more contrived posts citing the capture and execution of Amanda Knox

You must be quite amused by all of this but this is a forum for serious well reasoned debate not somewhere where you can play your sick mind games.

So I would respectfully suggest you stop this nonsense and have some respect for people who are trying to earnestly debate these issues...!!!

[Sticks]

If you look through this thread you will find other members convinced of her guilt, even the statistic about the US prison system having 70% of the inmates being non white.

There are other arguments for her guilt here on Yahoo answers

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Get a grip.... Your ridiculous trolling posts are fooling nobody... !!! You don't believe Amanda Knox is guilty for one second. You have followed this case and are well aware of the shortfalls in the evidence and the high degree of corruption and incompetence shown by both the Italian Police and the Italian courts.

No... I think you just enjoy playing devils advocate to make the people who do actually care about this story jump through hoops replying to your ever more contrived posts citing the capture and execution of Amanda Knox

You must be quite amused by all of this but this is a forum for serious well reasoned debate not somewhere where you can play your sick mind games.

So I would respectfully suggest you stop this nonsense and have some respect for people who are trying to earnestly debate these issues...!!!

..whether anyone personally believes Amanda Knox' innocence or not is irrelevant as for the moment she has been found innocent and so she is unless proven otherwise in a court of law...but if you look through this thread you will see that the member you're addressing most definately does believe her guilt and if you look at any other threads and posts made by this member, you will see that they are most definately not a troll, but very well respected..and with genuine and intelligent views ....

[Sticks]

This article gives a glimmer of hope that the US will be compelled to send her back when she is again considered guilty of murder in the retrial.

[Munchkins]

Originally Posted by Sticks

If you look through this thread you will find other members convinced of her guilt, even the statistic about the US prison system having 70% of the inmates being non white.

There are other arguments for her guilt [URL="http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20111003211928AAdPvPp"]here[/URL] on Yahoo answers

Yeah Yahoo answers the most reliable source