[Vanessa]

Jim is a great housemate. He has changed, otherwise he would have behaved differently. He has great self control.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by jet

No opinions from Jim fans on the quote I posted from the link then?
I wonder why?

You don't think it was tongue in cheek and that the DM reporter might have taken it out of context, perish the thought.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Bloody hell Jet,I'm pleased for you but this is old news some take it serious ,some don't,it doesn't change my opinion of him at all,he's probably said what most people are afraid to say,or maybe he is joking,you decide,

Just over 2 years ago isn't that old.

Why on earth do you like him so much Kazanne. You are a nice person!

[Cherie]

would you care to comment on this Jet

nyone witnessing comic Jim Davidson’s return to the stage this month could be forgiven for thinking the 57-year-old was getting his comeuppance for the racist, sexist routine he trotted out before a shift in good taste saw him whisked off our screens nearly 20 years ago.
In the play Stand Up And Be Counted, Davidson is bigoted old comedian Eddie Pierce, who is confronted in one scene by a young, black stand-up comic and berated for the years he spent cracking jokes at the expense of pretty much every minority under the sun.
The parallels with Davidson’s own life are more than coincidental. For it was Davidson himself who penned this intelligent, tense script — and the inspiration for the scene in question was based on a real-life encounter.
Repentant? After years in the wilderness for bigoted views, Jim Davidson says he wants to get a few things straight
Repentant? After years in the wilderness for bigoted views, Jim Davidson says he wants to get a few things straight
When in a Southend-on-Sea comedy club a few years ago, Davidson went backstage to congratulate 41-year-old black comedian Matt Blaize after being impressed by the quality of his act.
But, far from welcoming this tribute from an established star, Blaize gave him a furious dressing-down.
He told Davidson how he had been taunted in the playground thanks to one of the comic’s regular Seventies routines involving a West Indian character called Chalky White.
One of Davidson’s favourite jokes involved the dope-smoking Chalky walking across a zebra crossing. The distasteful punch line, delivered in a mock Jamaican accent, had Chalky saying: ‘Now you see me! Now you don’t!’
Jim Davidson (Eddie Pierce), Matt Blaize (Earl T Richards), Rachel Barrington (Ellie Jayne) star in Davidson's new play Stand Up And Be Counted
Jim Davidson (Eddie Pierce), Matt Blaize (Earl T Richards), Rachel Barrington (Ellie Jayne) star in Davidson's new play Stand Up And Be Counted
Blaize told Davidson of the immense impact this crude humour had on the lives of black and Asian people.
Davidson apologised to him. ‘What could I say but sorry? I can see now that it was wrong,’ he says.


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[jet]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You don't think it was tongue in cheek and that the DM reporter might have taken it out of context, perish the thought.

Yeah, that'll be it
Read what the reporter said again. Carefully.

[MachoPoodle]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Jim is a great housemate. He has changed, otherwise he would have behaved differently. He has great self control.

He has changed for his own selfish reasons. Very much doubt doubt he has any great self control, he's simply just a coward, like most wife beaters.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by jet

Yeah, that'll be it
Read what the reporter said again. Carefully.

No I will not read it again tyvm. Bowing out of this now as I have heard enough.


Jim to win.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Cherie

would you care to comment on this Jet

nyone witnessing comic Jim Davidson’s return to the stage this month could be forgiven for thinking the 57-year-old was getting his comeuppance for the racist, sexist routine he trotted out before a shift in good taste saw him whisked off our screens nearly 20 years ago.
In the play Stand Up And Be Counted, Davidson is bigoted old comedian Eddie Pierce, who is confronted in one scene by a young, black stand-up comic and berated for the years he spent cracking jokes at the expense of pretty much every minority under the sun.
The parallels with Davidson’s own life are more than coincidental. For it was Davidson himself who penned this intelligent, tense script — and the inspiration for the scene in question was based on a real-life encounter.
Repentant? After years in the wilderness for bigoted views, Jim Davidson says he wants to get a few things straight
Repentant? After years in the wilderness for bigoted views, Jim Davidson says he wants to get a few things straight
When in a Southend-on-Sea comedy club a few years ago, Davidson went backstage to congratulate 41-year-old black comedian Matt Blaize after being impressed by the quality of his act.
But, far from welcoming this tribute from an established star, Blaize gave him a furious dressing-down.
He told Davidson how he had been taunted in the playground thanks to one of the comic’s regular Seventies routines involving a West Indian character called Chalky White.
One of Davidson’s favourite jokes involved the dope-smoking Chalky walking across a zebra crossing. The distasteful punch line, delivered in a mock Jamaican accent, had Chalky saying: ‘Now you see me! Now you don’t!’
Jim Davidson (Eddie Pierce), Matt Blaize (Earl T Richards), Rachel Barrington (Ellie Jayne) star in Davidson's new play Stand Up And Be Counted
Jim Davidson (Eddie Pierce), Matt Blaize (Earl T Richards), Rachel Barrington (Ellie Jayne) star in Davidson's new play Stand Up And Be Counted
Blaize told Davidson of the immense impact this crude humour had on the lives of black and Asian people.
Davidson apologised to him. ‘What could I say but sorry? I can see now that it was wrong,’ he says.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...#ixzz2qUcdnR8h
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Yes, what could he say but sorry. It WAS wrong.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Cherie

No I will not read it again tyvm. Bowing out of this now as I have heard enough.


Jim to win.

Yes I agree it's like banging your head against a brick wall

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Yes I agree it's like banging your head against a brick wall

He has changed and that's good enough for me. He's brilliant in the House and i hope he tops the vote.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

He has changed and that's good enough for me. He's brilliant in the House and i hope he tops the vote.

Im sure he will !!

[MachoPoodle]

Originally Posted by Cherie

In the play Stand Up And Be Counted, Davidson is bigoted old comedian Eddie Pierce, who is confronted in one scene by a young, black stand-up comic and berated for the years he spent cracking jokes at the expense of pretty much every minority under the sun.

This does make me a bit curious about the play, but I have to say I'm more than a bit suspicious as Jim is someone who clearly likes to think of himself as the victim no matter what so the question is how much of this boils down to him wallowing in self pity as per usual.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by jet

I don't recall a topic about Jim Davidson blasting fat people? Could you direct me to where this is?

That wasn't the point of my post Jet as I'm sure you know

Jims views are just that, his views. It doesn't mean the people that like him as a housemate agree with them.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by jet

Just over 2 years ago isn't that old.

Why on earth do you like him so much Kazanne. You are a nice person!

Jet,I hope I am still a nice person,I am not a mad fan of his,I do know he did some bad stuff,but I guess we are all different in how we perceive things,it happened 40 years ago,its not for me to forgive him or any of us really,he has also made me laugh a lot too ,but I concede he's not everyones cup of tea, I think hes funny and I like the fact he admitted his wrongs,he's facing up to it,what else can he do? Anyway,I respect your views,your lovely too.lets just enjoy it.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

He has changed and that's good enough for me. He's brilliant in the House and i hope he tops the vote.

Will be good to watch Vanessa

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Jet,I hope I am still a nice person,I am not a mad fan of his,I do know he did some bad stuff,but I guess we are all different in how we perceive things,it happened 40 years ago,its not for me to forgive him or any of us really,he has also made me laugh a lot too ,but I concede he's not everyones cup of tea, I think hes funny and I like the fact he admitted his wrongs,he's facing up to it,what else can he do? Anyway,I respect your views,your lovely too.lets just enjoy it.

He can take his ugly soul off our TV screens.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Josy

That wasn't the point of my post Jet as I'm sure you know

Jims views are just that, his views. It doesn't mean the people that like him as a housemate agree with them.

Do people with Labour views vote Conservative just because they like David Cameron's TV persona.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by jet

Do people with Labour views vote Conservative just because they like David Cameron's TV persona.

Completely different scenarios and can't be compared.

CBB is a TV show....

[jet]

Originally Posted by Josy

Completely different scenarios and can't be compared.

CBB is a TV show....

I meant to put after what I said. I thought I did. I must be losing it.
It's all Jim Davidson's fault.

[Ammi]

..I just think it's an agree to disagree thing..Jim has defiantly always caused strong opinions and I know a lot of people even on the forum were surprised that they would like or support him but some people have obviously seen something in the house to change their views and others haven't seen anything..it's the same with most housemates, we all view things and people differently and go with that....

[flamingGalah!]

at this thread...

It isn't news to anyone about Jim's PAST & even myself I wasn't that keen on him before he went in there, but from how he has behaved in the house & how he has admitted to the wrongs he did in his PAST & has managed to turn his life around, not to mention how entertaining I find him, I like him & want him to win...

No one who supports Jim supports 'wife beaters', but maybe we are more willing to forgive & allow people to move on with their lives. Or should people be forever chastised & reminded of their past sins?? Everyone deserves a second chance...

And I think the thread should actually be changed to 'Jim WAS a wife beater' as it insinuates he still does.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

at this thread...

It isn't news to anyone about Jim's PAST & even myself I wasn't that keen on him before he went in there, but from how he has behaved in the house & how he has admitted to the wrongs he did in his PAST & has managed to turn his life around, not to mention how entertaining I find him, I like him & want him to win...

No one who supports Jim supports 'wife beaters', but maybe we are more willing to forgive & allow people to move on with their lives. Or should people be forever chastised & reminded of their past sins?? Everyone deserves a second chance...

And I think the thread should actually be changed to 'Jim WAS a wife beater' as it insinuates he still does.

..no one is stopping anyone from moving on with their life though, it's about who we all like and who we don't and whether we find anything that we want to support in a housemate...and not everyone will agree on that..some people aren't 'forgiving' of Luisa's sexual activities...and I understand that, her views are quite controversial...and so are Jim's and I guess that we all just have different things that we personally don't like about people...

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by jegmeister

even judging him on his actions he's a nasty piece of work - amazed some people can't see it

Whats he done in the house that's nasty.?

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

And yet he has all this support? Honestly, I don't get it. The amount of times I see people stand up for women and domestic abuse and so many now support him.

People can change, or isn't Jim Davidson allowed to change?

[MeMyselfAndI]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Slap? :

BEAT her regularly, leaving her black and blue and bloodstained.

KICKED her down a flight of stairs in a drunken rage.

SMASHED up their flat while wearing full Army combat uniform.

SLAMMED a weight-lifting bar- bell into her ribs.

THREW her out of their car miles from home.

omg thats awful! Proves Luisa's instincts are yet again spot on