[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

People are dying here of fuel poverty in the winter it will be magnified there, and I never mentioned America....

I know
but they want you to hear them
on this story.



fuel poverty
can change in time

[Z]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Is it right to do this though from a humanitarian perspective, they will effectively be an oligarch then? We have the option to heat or eat here, and it's bad enough, even though what we call poverty here will seem like luxury there. I'm guessing in the Ukraine if they do hike the gas price then people will die?

It's fairly immoral but a lot of capitalist practices are. If the EU had a joint policy regarding energy prices then it would limit Russia's ability to wield energy prices as a weapon at least in EU territory and would hopefully cause a chain reaction of reform so that Russia stops doing it to other European states which aren't in the EU. The gas trade at the moment is a bit of a coordination game, whereby countries are relying on Russia to choose to provide gas at affordable prices in order to maintain good business, but ideally it'll become a collaboration game, whereby any temptation to hike prices up essentially gets cancelled out because it would be raising the prices for hundreds of millions of people and if they refused to pay then they lose out on an entire market. The thing about Ukraine's gas prices is that Russia is also extremely lenient about receiving payments on time and will often takeover infrastructure in lieu of payments so it still gains and also has a tighter grip on the country. Very shady practice.

[King Gizzard]

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/i...-2014030484238

[arista]

Russia Today presenter hits out at Moscow over Ukraine


Please Do Not Sack Sexy Abby.




http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...crimea-ukraine


[An American RTHD anchor on Russian state television has
delivered an emotional rebuke of Moscow's intervention
in Ukraine and criticised the media's biased news coverage.
Russia Today responded by saying it was sending
Abby Martin to Crimea so she could
learn more about the situation.]

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by arista

Russia Today presenter hits out at Moscow over Ukraine


Please Do Not Sack Sexy Abby.




http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...crimea-ukraine


[An American RTHD anchor on Russian state television has
delivered an emotional rebuke of Moscow's intervention
in Ukraine and criticised the media's biased news coverage.
Russia Today responded by saying it was sending
Abby Martin to Crimea so she could
learn more about the situation.]

sending her for "re-education". It really is the USSR all over again.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by arista

Russia Today presenter hits out at Moscow over Ukraine


Please Do Not Sack Sexy Abby.




http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...crimea-ukraine


[An American RTHD anchor on Russian state television has
delivered an emotional rebuke of Moscow's intervention
in Ukraine and criticised the media's biased news coverage.
Russia Today responded by saying it was sending
Abby Martin to Crimea so she could
learn more about the situation.]

Oh Well...........that's the end of that Job........shame really !!!

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Zee

It's fairly immoral but a lot of capitalist practices are. If the EU had a joint policy regarding energy prices then it would limit Russia's ability to wield energy prices as a weapon at least in EU territory and would hopefully cause a chain reaction of reform so that Russia stops doing it to other European states which aren't in the EU. The gas trade at the moment is a bit of a coordination game, whereby countries are relying on Russia to choose to provide gas at affordable prices in order to maintain good business, but ideally it'll become a collaboration game, whereby any temptation to hike prices up essentially gets cancelled out because it would be raising the prices for hundreds of millions of people and if they refused to pay then they lose out on an entire market. The thing about Ukraine's gas prices is that Russia is also extremely lenient about receiving payments on time and will often takeover infrastructure in lieu of payments so it still gains and also has a tighter grip on the country. Very shady practice.

That is more or less what he said, he said Ukraine owed over a billion for feb and they were in danger of defaulting, so maybe thats the plan? they don't have to invade then if they control from within.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Oh Well...........that's the end of that Job........shame really !!!

I hope not

[Z]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

That is more or less what he said, he said Ukraine owed over a billion for feb and they were in danger of defaulting, so maybe thats the plan? they don't have to invade then if they control from within.

Exactly. Why would they annexe the Crimea into Russia's jurisdiction when they can have a presence in Ukrainian politics instead? That's why I don't think there'll be any separatist movement. The Crimea will remain part of Ukraine but always be under Russian control.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Zee

Exactly. Why would they annexe the Crimea into Russia's jurisdiction when they can have a presence in Ukrainian politics instead? That's why I don't think there'll be any separatist movement. The Crimea will remain part of Ukraine but always be under Russian control.

Actually I think the Crimea will become a self governing Autonomous region. Russia will definitely push for this outcome as at present they have to pay Ukraine $90M a year for the privilege of using the Military bases there.

If they can move the Crimea away from the Ukraine then they stand to gain financially.

[Liberty4eva]

I hate how we're calling Putin Hitler for doing something that was relatively mild compared to what we did in Iraq.

That Russia today reporter is obviously looking for a job on another television network.

[lostalex]

A second RT(Russia Today) News anchor has spoken out...

She says, that as an American, she cannot continue to whitewash the truth for Putin. Her grandparents escaped Russian brutality in Hungary to give her a better life in the USA.

Liz Wahl, we salute you. This is what balls of steel look like.

I'm proud of her. and I bet her grandparents are too.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...on-air-ukraine

Youtube video

[MTVN]

Silly woman

[arista]

Originally Posted by lostalex

A second RT(Russia Today) News anchor has spoken out...

She says, that as an American, she cannot continue to whitewash the truth for Putin. Her grandparents escaped Russian brutality in Hungary to give her a better life in the USA.

Liz Wahl, we salute you. This is what balls of steel look like.

I'm proud of her. and I bet her grandparents are too.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...on-air-ukraine

Youtube video

I hope FoxNewsHD give her a Job
or CNN America

I can understand why she has left.

[lostalex]

I expect to see Piers Morgan on RT soon, he can take her spot lol

he's a toad, he would fit right in. he'll say whatever the Russians tell him to.

[arista]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I expect to see Piers Morgan on RT soon, he can take her spot lol

he's a toad, he would fit right in. he'll say whatever the Russians tell him to.

CNN still have him for something
as long as he is not upsetting Americans


So he may get another late night show
a last stand

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by arista

I can understand why she has left.

Why do you think she left? and what do you respect about the reasons she resigned?


I think it's important for you to elaborate on these things. It's important for everyone to understand why we should respect her decision, don't you think?

[arista]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Why do you think she left? and what do you respect about the reasons she resigned?


I think it's important for you to elaborate on these things. It's important for everyone to understand why we should respect her decision, don't you think?

Because her family
would have told her,
but she knew it was a Putin funded station
before she signed up


Its great RT America is running now

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by arista

Because her family
would have told her,
but she knew it was a Putin funded station
before she signed up


Its great RT America is running now

because of her family? she's not a muslim, she isn't controlled by her family. She is a successful woman with a career. you honestly think she was pressured by her family?

I think it's clear listening to her that she felt that as a journalist she was being asked to spout lies on behalf of Putin, and she refused. She refused to let her mouth be raped by Putin's propaganda. She has her own voice now.

Anderson Cooper gets to the bottom of this issue! If you can't trust Anderson Cooper who can you trust?

Youtube video

[arista]

Originally Posted by lostalex

because of her family? she's not a muslim, she isn't controlled by her family. She is a successful woman with a career. you honestly think she was pressured by her family?

I think it's clear listening to her that she felt that as a journalist she was being asked to spout lies on behalf of Putin, and she refused. She refused to let her mouth be raped by Putin's propaganda. She has her own voice now.

Anderson Cooper gets to the bottom of this issue! If you can't trust Anderson Cooper who can you trust?

Youtube video

I think that was part of it
Yes clever of AC to get her on his show

[lostalex]

I wonder what you would do in her situation...

Would you speak up, like her? If you knew that you were being used as a mouthpiece for Putin?

I'm asking you Arista...... WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

[arista]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I wonder what you would do in her situation...

Would you speak up, like her? If you knew that you were being used as a mouthpiece for Putin?

I'm asking you arista/ WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

No I would keep my Paid job
and follow the stations instructions
even if it upset me.
Paying the Bills and keeping money
and my company car would go above morals.


I would take out my anger on the Adult Game GTA5 on PS3
by killing cops



Life In The City

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by arista

No I would keep my Paid job
and follow the stations instructions
even if it upset me.
Paying the Bills and keeping money
and my company car would go above morals.


Life In The City

you realize that means I can't trust anything you say from now on right? you basically just said that you will say anything that benefits you, regardless of the truth.

don't you feel ashamed to say that?

[arista]

Originally Posted by lostalex

you realize that means I can't trust anything you say from now on right? you basically just said that you will say anything that benefits you, regardless of the truth.

don't you feel ashamed to say that?

No because I am Honest on here
I put all my cards on the table on tibb



If you work at RT
you know its funded by Russia and Putin,
before you start

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by arista

No because I am Honest on here
I put all my cards on the table on tibb



If you work at RT
you know its funded by Russia and Putin,
before you start

i wonder how honest now. not completely honest.