[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

In your opinion

I'm right then?

[jet]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Can you post it again please, we must have blinked and missed it ...thanks

It wasn't in this thread, it was earlier. Kazanne will find it.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Quasar

I'm right then?

No lovely, you wish you were right

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

No lovely, you wish you were right

So I can't challenge Winstons opinions but you can throw mine out of the window? Makes sense

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

OK,can you post it again,I missed it and cant be arsed to trawl through threads,forgot what thread it was anyway

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winston_McKenzie

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Quasar

He didn't defend his homophobic comments in the house though. BB is all for entertainment, and Winston delivered. The thing is he made himself look like a twat.

It's just 6 of one and half a dozen of the other

Many parties were to be blamed for what happened when it could have been avoided to start of with by not putting him in

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

It's just 6 of one and half a dozen of the other

Many parties were to be blamed for what happened when it could have been avoided to start of with by not putting him in

Could have also been avoided by him admitting his words were out of touch with the society he wishes to represent.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

In your opinion

Well yes, that's fairly obvious and it should go without saying surely...

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by jet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winston_McKenzie

Thanks for that,he does seem an unsavoury sort but to be fair it wasn't just him,but anyway I am no Winston fan,never was ,but I do think he was treated very badly by BB,he was there for ratings,BB knew exactly what they were getting ,and if you found out stuff about him,I am sure they did.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Tbf mock, the massive majority of people do actually have a gay friend or 20. My going out group is made up of mostly gay blokes tbh

But if a stranger asked you "who are they to you?" I think that you would just say that they're your friend as you wouldn't be thinking about their sexuality.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Robodog

What Winston said was stupid, but he said it outside the house!

If he had said it INSIDE the house then I can understand the reaction from HMs and the viewers.

But the fact he said it OUTSIDE the house and then for BB to bring it up on the show and for BB to milk it for maximum effect the way they did in that task was a malicious act from BB. They are stirring up hatred in the name of 'entertainment' yet again.

I disagree with Winston's views on gay adoption 100%.

I also disagree with BB's methods of DELIBERATELY sending in a HM, knowing the HM said something unpleasant in the past only to then DELIBERATELY drop the bomb on them inside the house.

Winston was stupid in what he said but it was his opinion which he is entitled to, like it or not.

BB have not been stupid, they have been quite nasty in the way they have dropped him in it like this, and quite distasteful in using his past comment (made away from the BB house) as a form of entertainment. It's pretty sick from BB.

Winston's opinion was distasteful. So is this self appointed 'trial by media' from BB for crucifying their selected HMs for comments they made separately from the show! It's appalling treatment from BB for their 'guests'.

Shame they didn't do this with Jim Davidson

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Thanks for that,he does seem an unsavoury sort but to be fair it wasn't just him,but anyway I am no Winston fan,never was ,but I do think he was treated very badly by BB,he was there for ratings,BB knew exactly what they were getting ,and if you found out stuff about him,I am sure they did.

Why would anyone care. He's scum.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

So what are new figures? And why did one of your lads use the 2013 figures?

You do realise that 2013 was like only a few years ago. What has changed since then?

I wrote down the figures in a post which was in reply to one of yours, you quoted that post. I had a feeling you didn't really read through the posts though as your posts have less and less relevance each time you try and hold an argument lol. And a **** load has changed, around the world, not just in the UK. Laws have improved at least a little bit in nearly every country as this reflects the populations evolving views which you, Winston and many other people who were raised around ignorance do not share. Oh well, nice chat even if it was less than half-heartened on your part.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by jet

Well they must have the right or they would be sued.
Personally I don't care about a homophobe who used to run a pub which was closed down in a police raid for being a haven for arms and drug dealers. He gets no sympathy from me.

he took over a pub that had a history of this. he can't be blamed for what the police find in the pockets of his customers. for all you know he could have called them in himself!

[jet]

Originally Posted by parmnion

he took over a pub that had a history of this. he can't be blamed for what the police find in the pockets of his customers. for all you know he could have called them in himself!

Yes, and the pub was raided and closed for arms and drug dealing several years after he took it over. But of course Winston wouldn't have known a thing about it. He's an innocent lamb. I forgot about that.

[empire]

it seems that the rest of the house is to scared, to say there real opinions, because it will be put on ofcom, the PC root has ruined, big brother for some years now, from day one, they have had a big chip on there shoulders, because winston, was part of ukip, and they needed to get him to say something that did not go there way,I did not like how the housemates and the public where trying too enforce him to agree on gays having children, he only said his opinion, but did not want anyone to agree or not agree with it, intruth he was not enforcing anyone to agree with him, back in 2005, the behaviour craig put towards anthony was out of the line, but big brother turned a blind eye to it, because they did not want to upset a part of society who thought that craig had the right to do this to anthony, it seems that big brother wants to put a group of people who agree in the same things, to me that seems fake and boring, society does not work like that.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by jet

Yes, and the pub was raided and closed for arms and drug dealing several years after he took it over. But of course Winston wouldn't have known a thing about it. He's an innocent lamb. I forgot about that.

i doubt he even had the time to give the place a 2nd thought with his other careers on the go. blame his brothers .

[jet]

Originally Posted by parmnion

i doubt he even had the time to give the place a 2nd thought with his other careers on the go. blame his brothers .

Yeah, blame his brothers. Blame his mother. Blame his father. Blame the weather. But for goodness sake don't blame poor Winston.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by jet

Yeah, blame his brothers. Blame his mother. Blame his father. Blame the weather. But for goodness sake don't blame poor Winston.

[jet]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Wake up, you're snoring.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by jet

Wake up, you're snoring.

cause your reaching is boring.

[Ammi]

..this thread.....(maybe..) he knew this was going to happen or something similar and agreed to it when he took the fee/signed the contract to go in...he doesn't really seem to care about anything negative against him, he's had that through his political career and it's brought him attention, hasn't it and this would just give him more...no publicity is bad publicity as they say...he's still being talked about as much as any other housemate still in there and he has his lovely fee/the attention so I doubt that he's phased by any of it...

[jet]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..this thread.....(maybe..) he knew this was going to happen or something similar and agreed to it when he took the fee/signed the contract to go in...he doesn't really seem to care about anything negative against him, he's had that through his political career and it's brought him attention, hasn't it and this would just give him more...no publicity is bad publicity as they say...he's still being talked about as much as any other housemate still in there and he has his lovely fee/the attention so I doubt that he's phased by any of it...

I totally agree and have been saying similar. He doesn't look in the least 'destroyed' as he is being portrayed but as arrogant and pompous as ever. He loves controversy surrounding himself (didn't everyone notice?). BB got publicity, Winston got publicity plus a fat fee for a few days work and the jobs done.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by empire

it seems that the rest of the house is to scared, to say there real opinions, because it will be put on ofcom, the PC root has ruined, big brother for some years now, from day one, they have had a big chip on there shoulders, because winston, was part of ukip, and they needed to get him to say something that did not go there way,I did not like how the housemates and the public where trying too enforce him to agree on gays having children, he only said his opinion, but did not want anyone to agree or not agree with it, intruth he was not enforcing anyone to agree with him, back in 2005, the behaviour craig put towards anthony was out of the line, but big brother turned a blind eye to it, because they did not want to upset a part of society who thought that craig had the right to do this to anthony, it seems that big brother wants to put a group of people who agree in the same things, to me that seems fake and boring, society does not work like that.

I'm fed up of the PC word being thrown about whenever anybody gets offended at something someone says.

Isn't it PC to want to stop people from getting offended at truly awful behaviour? Of course PC exists and it has it's good points and it's silly points, but overall it does more good than bad as it stops people from going outside to abuse by prejudiced twats that deserve to drop off to the Bermuda Triangle.

I really just don't approve of "oh that's PC" when someone is justifiably offended at Winston's comments, yes his allowed to say his opinions, but people are also allowed to be offended at his comments, that's true free speech, not this back in the old days attitude of "I can say something prejudiced but those loonie lefties can't say a thing to defend the minorities otherwise we'll do something extreme to them" type of attitude.

On a side note they kept Craig around to humiliate him for our entertainment, and tbf I did find it entertaining, however I do also feel that he should've been removed for his own good.

[Alf]

How about they all respect his religious beliefs like we're forced to with religions that are not Christian?

We all know the answer, the PC World doesn't have the same equality for Christianity.

Not just hypocrits but the enemy of the Western democratic World (That's how serious Political Correctness is)


Emma should be sacked on the spot for that interview. Who is she to tell Winston whats right and wrong and dictate what he says?


And then Rylan at the end of interviewing Winston Said "I'm proud to be a gay man" and got a big cheer and clap for that (which says it all) Winston wouldn't have got a cheer and clap if he'd have said he was proud to be a straight man or proud of his Christian beliefs, he would have likely been booed for that.


Being gay doesn't make you a better person no matter what the looney liberal media influences to think it is.