[Amy Jade]

come back...

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

[hijaxers]

So do i but he has not responded to PM's , still hoping though. Come back Kirk.

[caprimint]

Me too

[Marsh.]

When was he last on?

Come back Kirk!!!!

[Cherie]

Kirk, BOTs, Johnny, LT is the new Marsh...all straight white men we assume is it a conspiracy

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Christmas Sherry

Kirk, BOTs, Johnny, LT is the new Marsh...all straight white men we assume is it a conspiracy

LT is banned atm though

ETA (just noticed is the new Marsh bit lol )

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Originally Posted by Christmas Sherry

straight white men

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Big Meaty Claws

Yes I have my doubts, I think TL might actually be TM

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Christmas Sherry

Kirk, BOTs, Johnny, LT is the new Marsh...all straight white men we assume is it a conspiracy

The sooner they're all eradicated the better

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by A-Yo It's Christmas

The sooner they're all eradicated the better

It certainly seems like it

[Black Dagger]

Originally Posted by A-Yo It's Christmas

The sooner they're all eradicated the better

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Winslet

A new troll

[armand.kay]

What happened to Kirk is he banned or just not posting

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by Megan McChristmas.

What happened to Kirk is he banned or just not posting

He told me he's left and not coming back.

[Withano]

Some of his threads were pretty dodgy tbh.. I dont miss opening TiBB and seeing "Muslims do this terrible thing says Jihadwatch" on the front page.
His thoughts on Big Brother were usually well-evaluated though.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Withano

Some of his threads were pretty dodgy tbh.. I dont miss opening TiBB and seeing "Muslims do this terrible thing says Jihadwatch" on the front page.
His thoughts on Big Brother were usually well-evaluated though.

Kirk is entitled to voice his opinions whether or not you agree. That is debate. Personally I find some of your opinions to be quite wacky... but I wouldn't stop you voicing them. Kirk is passionate about his opinions, so are you. The fact you disagree doesn't mean one of you is completely wrong and the other completely right. I feel like Kirk was hounded away. And he's not the first. The trick, as far as I can see, is this: learn to be insulting without actually breaking the rules; say something outrageous to someone then say you were only joking or post the little joker emoticon; always remember to make a point of quoting or addressing someone who's trying their best to ignore you... apparently that's not considered baiting, so do it until someone reacts, then you can hit the 'report' button and they'll get infracted. Also, if someone has a different opinion from you, they are obviously the devil incarnate.

Come back Kirk. We can't afford to lose another poster or this place will end up with the same bunch of people all agreeing with each other and posting the little "applause" emoticon after each other's posts.

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by Livia

Kirk is entitled to voice his opinions whether or not you agree. That is debate. Personally I find some of your opinions to be quite wacky... but I wouldn't stop you voicing them. Kirk is passionate about his opinions, so are you. The fact you disagree doesn't mean one of you is completely wrong and the other completely right. I feel like Kirk was hounded away. And he's not the first. The trick, as far as I can see, is this: learn to be insulting without actually breaking the rules; say something outrageous to someone then say you were only joking or post the little joker emoticon; always remember to make a point of quoting or addressing someone who's trying their best to ignore you... apparently that's not considered baiting, so do it until someone reacts, then you can hit the 'report' button and they'll get infracted. Also, if someone has a different opinion from you, they are obviously the devil incarnate.

Come back Kirk. We can't afford to lose another poster or this place will end up with the same bunch of people all agreeing with each other and posting the little "applause" emoticon after each other's posts.

(I'm one of those)

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Kirk is entitled to voice his opinions whether or not you agree. That is debate. Personally I find some of your opinions to be quite wacky... but I wouldn't stop you voicing them. Kirk is passionate about his opinions, so are you. The fact you disagree doesn't mean one of you is completely wrong and the other completely right. I feel like Kirk was hounded away. And he's not the first. The trick, as far as I can see, is this: learn to be insulting without actually breaking the rules; say something outrageous to someone then say you were only joking or post the little joker emoticon; always remember to make a point of quoting or addressing someone who's trying their best to ignore you... apparently that's not considered baiting, so do it until someone reacts, then you can hit the 'report' button and they'll get infracted. Also, if someone has a different opinion from you, they are obviously the devil incarnate.

Come back Kirk. We can't afford to lose another poster or this place will end up with the same bunch of people all agreeing with each other and posting the little "applause" emoticon after each other's posts.

There's fault on both "sides" though, some people on Kirks side were guilty of doing exactly what you're accusing the other "side" of doing. This is a forum, people are going to clash and when you're friends with a person or people, you lose the ability to look at the whole situation objectively. I really don't know what we as mods are expected to do other than try and enforce the rules when we see rule breaks, we're not baby sitters and we don't get paid to do this s**t and no matter what way we try to handle situations like these there's going to be people unhappy and complaining about how awful and biased we are

ETA : Stacey just proved my point btw (no offence to you Stacey) but you just did exactly what Livia accused the other side of doing but I'm sure it'll be fine because you're on the right side

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by McGregrrrrrrrr

ETA : Stacey just proved my point btw (no offence to you Stacey) but you just did exactly what Livia accused the other side of doing but I'm sure it'll be fine because you're on the right side

I prefer to write my own posts than applaud somebody else's. I was using it in an ironic way because of what Livia said

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by caprimincepie

I prefer to write my own posts than applaud somebody else's. I was using it in an ironic way because of what Livia said

But people who are on Kirks side do that as well as those who are not is the point I was trying to make, in fact Kirk himself was notorious for doing it all the time, not that there's anything wrong with it, i do it myself on occasion if I agree with someones post, I just think it's a silly thing to beat one "side" for doing that when both sides do it but that's ignored

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by McGregrrrrrrrr

There's fault on both "sides" though, some people on Kirks side were guilty of doing exactly what you're accusing the other "side" of doing. This is a forum, people are going to clash and when you're friends with a person or people, you lose the ability to look at the whole situation objectively. I really don't know what we as mods are expected to do other than try and enforce the rules when we see rule breaks, we're not baby sitters and we don't get paid to do this s**t and no matter what way we try to handle situations like these there's going to be people unhappy and complaining about how awful and biased we are

ETA : Stacey just proved my point btw (no offence to you Stacey) but you just did exactly what Livia accused the other side of doing but I'm sure it'll be fine because you're on the right side

Absolutely right.

I did not often agree with Kirk but there were many times we did too.

If people are respectful and do not call others liars,stick to the points in hand and treat all other members as equals that would make time on here and I would guess the mods duties far easier.

I am one who does in fact proudly state that I have never used the applause symbol on here at all.
I prefer to say I agree and where necessary say why I do and vice versa as to disagreeing too.

It is a bit rich for anyone to condemn the use of the symbol as to others when as you rightly point out, it is deemed totally appreciated and acceptable if it is on their perceived 'right' side.

[Ross.]

I love Niamh

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Livia

Kirk is entitled to voice his opinions whether or not you agree. That is debate. Personally I find some of your opinions to be quite wacky... but I wouldn't stop you voicing them. Kirk is passionate about his opinions, so are you. The fact you disagree doesn't mean one of you is completely wrong and the other completely right. I feel like Kirk was hounded away. And he's not the first. The trick, as far as I can see, is this: learn to be insulting without actually breaking the rules; say something outrageous to someone then say you were only joking or post the little joker emoticon; always remember to make a point of quoting or addressing someone who's trying their best to ignore you... apparently that's not considered baiting, so do it until someone reacts, then you can hit the 'report' button and they'll get infracted. Also, if someone has a different opinion from you, they are obviously the devil incarnate.

Come back Kirk. We can't afford to lose another poster or this place will end up with the same bunch of people all agreeing with each other and posting the little "applause" emoticon after each other's posts.

The thing is though, I rarely initiated any conversation with the guy, especially towards the end, because I actually found the debates we had quite boring. He'd retaliate to my posts (very occaisionally with insults) and get in a huppety when I reply.
Its difficult to talk about someone when theyre not here to defend their self... its unfair really, But I can tell you with certainty that he isnt the angel youd like him to be...
I rarely ever made or make threads in serious debates and news, but its just difficult for me to ignore borderline-xenophobia when I saw it on the homepage, and obviously I like to reply if somebody quotes me when i do post there.
his departure clearly made an impact on some users, but the only change for me personally, is the lesser relevance on the debates subforum, and I dont mind that much on a bb forum.
If kirk misses others as much as others miss him, im sure he'll come back.


Furthermore, I very rarely use emojis, and i rarely initiate debates by directly quoting somebody (usually just type my initial reaction to an OP and then come back if somebody quotes it) so I dont think your trick for no bans applies to me really.. I have never been banned (never actually had 3 infractions at the same time, I always assumed that it was a '3 strikes and youre out' rule until earlier on in the thread) Id like to think that I havent been banned because I wouldnt insult a member, despite getting a few insults thrown at myself, even here you called my opinions wacky.. Bit uncalled for.
I have agreed with all but one of my infractions and I understand the boundaries which kirk and the other banned members have crossed. Theres little use sulking. Kirk would probably still be here if he wasnt banned for rule-breaking in the first place.. But he did rule-break so he got banned, decided life was unfair and vowed to never come back.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Withano

The thing is though, I rarely initiated any conversation with the guy, especially towards the end, because I actually found the debates we had quite boring. He'd retaliate to my posts (very occaisionally with insults) and get in a huppety when I reply.
Its difficult to talk about someone when theyre not here to defend their self... its unfair really, But I can tell you with certainty that he isnt the angel youd like him to be...
I rarely ever made or make threads in serious debates and news, but its just difficult for me to ignore borderline-xenophobia when I saw it on the homepage, and obviously I like to reply if somebody quotes me when i do post there.
his departure clearly made an impact on some users, but the only change for me personally, is the lesser relevance on the debates subforum, and I dont mind that much on a bb forum.
If kirk misses others as much as others miss him, im sure he'll come back.


Furthermore, I very rarely use emojis, and i rarely initiate debates by directly quoting somebody (usually just type my initial reaction to an OP and then come back if somebody quotes it) so I dont think your trick for no bans applies to me really.. I have never been banned (never actually had 3 infractions at the same time, I always assumed that it was a '3 strikes and youre out' rule until earlier on in the thread) Id like to think that I havent been banned because I wouldnt insult a member, despite getting a few insults thrown at myself, even here you called my opinions wacky.. Bit uncalled for.
I have agreed with all but one of my infractions and I understand the boundaries which banned members have crossed.