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jet · 28-03-2018, 12:03 AM

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Joseph Finlay is the former deputy editor of the Jewish Quarterly and co-founder of a range of grassroots Jewish organisations. On 26 March, he penned a piece for the UK partner of The Times of Israel entitled Jeremy Corbyn is an anti-racist, not an anti-semite.

Finlay writes that, like every good story, it starts with a grain of truth. Among Labour’s half a million members lies a small minority of people who hold antisemitic views. But this truth, he writes, was turned into “a dark guilt-by association sub-plot” with the cynical “grand finale” we should all have expected:

https://www.thecanary.co/trending/20...mes-of-israel/

That is just one mans personal opinion - a man who is obviously anti right wing and pro - Corbyn. It's not like you to fall for a partial source...as you would say, it means nothing...

Besides, Corbyn is, at the very least, guilty by association as he is the Labour leader and therefore responsible for stamping out antisemitism in his party which he has refused to do even though it was brought to his attention over and over again. Did he care enough to deal with it? NO. That he didn't see it as as something that should be dealt with swiftly is very telling indeed.

Kizzy · 28-03-2018, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jet

That is just one mans personal opinion - a man who is obviously anti right wing and pro - Corbyn. It's not like you to fall for a partial source...as you would say, it means nothing...

Besides, Corbyn is, at the very least, guilty by association as he is the Labour leader and therefore responsible for stamping out antisemitism in his party which he has refused to do even though it was brought to his attention over and over again. Did he care enough to deal with it? NO. That he didn't see it as as something that should be dealt with swiftly is very telling indeed.

That's all that has ever been leveled at Corbyn isn't it on anything 'guilt by association' he hasn't said or done anything. I'd say many are forgetting this.

It is one man but look who the man is..... It kinds of proves my theory that it's less about how the Jewish community feel and more about tub thumping to destabilise Corbyn as Labour leader now.

In 2012 the Labour leader WAS Jewish ( and we all remember how the media treated him) and the mural got painted :/ How I don't know but suddenly it's Corbyn that's condemned for glancing at it. It makes no sense.

jet · 28-03-2018, 01:01 PM

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That's all that has ever been leveled at Corbyn isn't it on anything 'guilt by association' he hasn't said or done anything. I'd say many are forgetting this.

It is one man but look who the man is..... It kinds of proves my theory that it's less about how the Jewish community feel and more about tub thumping to destabilise Corbyn as Labour leader now.

In 2012 the Labour leader WAS Jewish ( and we all remember how the media treated him) and the mural got painted :/ How I don't know but suddenly it's Corbyn that's condemned for glancing at it. It makes no sense.

No, that isn't all that is levelled at him. It's just what you need to believe.

Kizzy · 28-03-2018, 01:06 PM

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No, that isn't all that is levelled at him. It's just what you need to believe.

No it really isn't I have watched and read a lot of media debate over this week and I remain objective... are you?

Crimson Dynamo · 29-03-2018, 07:46 AM

Its officially a shambles now. Anyone who was saying it was just a smear campaign should hang their head in shame

and as Livia said, if you cant see the problem then chances are you are part of it

Kizzy · 30-03-2018, 05:59 AM

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Its officially a shambles now. Anyone who was saying it was just a smear campaign should hang their head in shame

and as Livia said, if you cant see the problem then chances are you are part of it

What exactly are those not constructing a wicker man part of?

I hope I'm not being accused of something here because while I fully acknowledge and support the issue of tackling antisemitism I can see that this has become politicised now.

These 'missing the point' and 'nothing to see' snipes are ridiculous

Crimson Dynamo · 30-03-2018, 07:10 AM

id let it go now Kizzy

Kizzy · 30-03-2018, 02:24 PM

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id let it go now Kizzy

Why? because you think you've railroaded me off the topic... You don't know me at all do you?

jet · 30-03-2018, 03:49 PM

So often there are cries of RACIST on here at the slightest opportunity, but when it comes to antisemitism it's a different story. A blind eye is turned to Corbyn's continuously ignoring and condoning it in his own party and even appearing to be antisemitic himself. There is no horror or admittance or shame, just a shifting of the goalposts to blame his opponents for 'smears', so yes, anyone who does that IS part of the problem. I haven't seen one Corbyn supporter saying 'he is very wrong, why hasn't he done anything about this!'. It's sheer hypocrisy.

Kizzy · 30-03-2018, 03:45 PM

Youtube video

jet · 30-03-2018, 03:53 PM

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Youtube video

Words, words and more words, and NO action.

bots · 31-03-2018, 08:56 AM

Alan Sugar has faced calls to "disown" a tweet he sent which depicts Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn sat in a car alongside Adolf Hitler.

Shadow chancellor John McDonnell appealed to the businessman to delete it and "bring people together".

Lord Sugar sent the image as Mr Corbyn said his party "must do better" in dealing with anti-Semitism.

It carried the caption: "When you're pictured at Nuremberg and claim you thought you were going to a car rally".

The city of Nuremberg was host to Nazi propaganda events after Hitler's rise to power.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43604058

Crimson Dynamo · 31-03-2018, 09:20 AM

welp

jaxie · 31-03-2018, 09:28 AM

Saw this in the news today too. I can't see Sugar being cowed by calls to remove it. Will be interesting to watch the storm over it today.

arista · 31-03-2018, 09:44 AM

He still needs to go on a national T V news
and stop this.

It is all in his hands

Even War Criminal Blair is attacking him
was on LBC

arista · 31-03-2018, 09:56 AM

Sugar hates Corbyn

Sugar is 100% New Labour

jet · 31-03-2018, 10:03 AM

Sugar tweeted: It is a joke , but the angry brigade like to moan
He then retweeted a photo of JC at a Lab rally in Milton Keynes yesterday with a councillor who used to be in the local neo-Nazi organisation.
https://twitter.com/Lord_Sugar

Kizzy · 31-03-2018, 11:57 AM

He's removed it.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...n-hitler-tweet

Maru · 31-03-2018, 04:18 PM

I can't say I 100% understand all the context behind the Corbyn drama (I need someone to link me an election documentary or something), but I do find it incredibly amusing that jet and others brought up some fairly serious issues that were dismissed... and now it appears they've become one of the main points of contention in his campaign. It's like watching Hillary Clinton run again.

(Sorry I really needed that laugh)

Kizzy · 31-03-2018, 04:30 PM

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I can't say I 100% understand all the context behind the Corbyn drama (I need someone to link me an election documentary or something), but I do find it incredibly amusing that jet and others brought up some fairly serious issues that were dismissed... and now it appears they've become one of the main points of contention in his campaign. It's like watching Hillary Clinton run again.

(Sorry I really needed that laugh)

What issues... The antisemitic issue or the IRA issue?

They were not dismissed by myself they were addressed.

jet · 31-03-2018, 05:59 PM

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What issues... The antisemitic issue or the IRA issue?

They were not dismissed by myself they were addressed.

You do dismiss them, especially our fairly long time 'debates' about his IRA sympathies. Your conclusion is always 'He didn't do anything wrong then and he hasn't done anything wrong now'. These are your actual words.

Oliver_W · 31-03-2018, 06:55 PM

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You do dismiss them, especially our fairly long time 'debates' about his IRA sympathies. Your conclusion is always 'He didn't do anything wrong then and he hasn't done anything wrong now'. These are your actual words.

"The IRA are bad but don't forget about [other bad group no-one supports]"

Kizzy · 31-03-2018, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jet

You do dismiss them, especially our fairly long time 'debates' about his IRA sympathies. Your conclusion is always 'He didn't do anything wrong then and he hasn't done anything wrong now'. These are your actual words.

I haven't dismissed your opinion though I just don't agree with it, that's the nature of debate isn't it you state your opinion I state mine... Whatever you or maru think I have the right to form my own stance on any given topic.

jet · 01-04-2018, 12:12 AM

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I haven't dismissed your opinion though I just don't agree with it, that's the nature of debate isn't it you state your opinion I state mine... Whatever you or maru think I have the right to form my own stance on any given topic.

Disagreeing with opinions is fine obviously, but you also dismiss evidence and even facts when it comes to Corbyn.

arista · 01-04-2018, 06:37 PM

Kizzy
Today Corbyn closed down his own facebook account
they showed it live on Ch4HDnews.

But no one can stop Closed facebook groups

So Corbyn will have no choice
but to go on GMBHD itv
or Sundays Marr BBC1HD (in a few weeks, long BBC breaks)

I posted it first on my own thread
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...12#post9938012

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