[bots]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

No he isn't and if you'd bother to read/listen to anyone who has been interviewed in relation to the topic of antisemitism within labour they all say he isn't . The issue being he isn't tough enough on those within the party who are.

The evidence presented in this thread alone points to him being anti Semitic. You are of course entitled to think differently, but the majority don't see it that way

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

That is just one mans personal opinion - a man who is obviously anti right wing and pro - Corbyn. It's not like you to fall for a partial source...as you would say, it means nothing...

Besides, Corbyn is, at the very least, guilty by association as he is the Labour leader and therefore responsible for stamping out antisemitism in his party which he has refused to do even though it was brought to his attention over and over again. Did he care enough to deal with it? NO. That he didn't see it as as something that should be dealt with swiftly is very telling indeed.

That's all that has ever been leveled at Corbyn isn't it on anything 'guilt by association' he hasn't said or done anything. I'd say many are forgetting this.

It is one man but look who the man is..... It kinds of proves my theory that it's less about how the Jewish community feel and more about tub thumping to destabilise Corbyn as Labour leader now.

In 2012 the Labour leader WAS Jewish ( and we all remember how the media treated him) and the mural got painted :/ How I don't know but suddenly it's Corbyn that's condemned for glancing at it. It makes no sense.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

That's all that has ever been leveled at Corbyn isn't it on anything 'guilt by association' he hasn't said or done anything. I'd say many are forgetting this.

It is one man but look who the man is..... It kinds of proves my theory that it's less about how the Jewish community feel and more about tub thumping to destabilise Corbyn as Labour leader now.

In 2012 the Labour leader WAS Jewish ( and we all remember how the media treated him) and the mural got painted :/ How I don't know but suddenly it's Corbyn that's condemned for glancing at it. It makes no sense.

No, that isn't all that is levelled at him. It's just what you need to believe.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

The evidence presented in this thread alone points to him being anti Semitic. You are of course entitled to think differently, but the majority don't see it that way

No it doesn't... then the 'majority' on this forum are at odds with every other person interviewed in the media on this topic , that's in his own party, other parties and most importantly the Jewish representatives.

What you have in this thread and across the forum is political bias, it is not the same at all.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

No, that isn't all that is levelled at him. It's just what you need to believe.

No it really isn't I have watched and read a lot of media debate over this week and I remain objective... are you?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

No it really isn't I have watched and read a lot of media debate over this week and I remain objective... are you?

looking at jet's posts i would say yes

[jet]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

looking at jet's posts i would say yes

Thank you LT.

[MTVN]

Labour's disciplinary chief resigned tonight after asking for a council candidate embroiled in a "Holocaust denial" row to be let back into the party.

Christine Shawcroft said she was "deeply sorry" for her comments as she quit as head of the party's powerful Disputes Panel.

It comes just two months after Ms Shawcroft, a*Jeremy Corbyn*ally and director of Momentum,*ousted long-serving Ann Black as the head of the panel.

Her departure adds pressure to Mr Corbyn, who vowed this week to be a "militant" opponent of anti-Semitism after Jewish leaders staged a protest outside Parliament.

The Times and Daily Mail obtained an e-mail sent by Ms Shawcroft asking party officials to reinstate a suspended council candidate.

The man had apparently shared an article on Facebook called: "International Red Cross Report Confirms the Holocaust of Six Million Jews is a Hoax."

It was accompanied with a picture of the gates of Auschwitz, with the famous phrase 'Arbeit Macht Frei' (work sets you free) replaced with the phrase 'Muh Holocaust'.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...croft-12269858



Still though, nothing to see here

[jet]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-Semitism.html


Jeremy Corbyn's failure to deal with anti-Semitism in his party was laid bare last night.

Labour sources revealed they have a backlog of no fewer than 74 allegations of 'shocking' anti-Jewish sentiment. Some date back more than two years and have led to suspensions rather than expulsions.

Labour MP John Mann said he knew of 130 further cases that had not been dealt with properly and should now be reassessed.

A party source said: 'Many of these cases include the most shocking and blatant anti-Semitism that would make even a committed neo-Nazi blush.

[bots]

'Deeply sorry' Christine Shawcroft quits as Labour disputes chief

The head of the Labour Party's disputes panel has quit after it emerged she had opposed the suspension of a council candidate accused of Holocaust denial.

Christine Shawcroft sent an email calling for the reinstatement of Alan Bull, who had been due to stand in local elections in Peterborough in May.

In a statement she said she had not been aware of the "abhorrent" Facebook post that led to his suspension.

Mr Bull said he reposted an article on Facebook for the purpose of debate.

He told the BBC that he shared the article, which claimed the Holocaust was a "hoax", with friends without comment - but said he did not agree with its content.

Ms Shawcroft - a director of the pro-Corbyn Momentum group - only became the head of the disputes committee, which investigates allegations of sexual harassment, anti-Semitism and disciplinary breaches, in January.

She said she was "deeply sorry" for her "wrong and misguided questions on this case".

In her original email, Ms Shawcroft said she was "concerned" to hear about the suspension of Mr Bull for "a Facebook post taken completely out of context and alleged to show anti-Semitism".

Some people in Peterborough's Labour Party had "political reasons" for not wanting him to stand, she wrote, adding: "I am concerned that party disciplinary procedures are being used in the pursuit of partisan disputes in local parties, wasting a great deal of staff time in the process."

She ended her email by saying the party had "sat on" the complaint for months, adding: "I think we should reinstate his membership and allow him to contest the ward for which he has been selected."

But in a statement announcing her resignation on Wednesday night, she said: "I sent this email before being aware of the full information about this case and I had not been shown the image of his abhorrent Facebook post. Had I seen this image, I would not have requested that the decision to suspend him be re-considered. I am deeply sorry for having done so."

In a reference to Monday's demonstration by Jewish groups against the Labour leadership, she added: "This week we have seen a clear expression of the pain and hurt that has been caused to Jewish members of our party and the wider Jewish community by anti-Semitic abuse and language, and by the reality of anti-Semitism being denied and downplayed by others.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43578225

Seems a lot of people have been "missing" the details

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its officially a shambles now. Anyone who was saying it was just a smear campaign should hang their head in shame

and as Livia said, if you cant see the problem then chances are you are part of it

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Its officially a shambles now. Anyone who was saying it was just a smear campaign should hang their head in shame

and as Livia said, if you cant see the problem then chances are you are part of it

What exactly are those not constructing a wicker man part of?

I hope I'm not being accused of something here because while I fully acknowledge and support the issue of tackling antisemitism I can see that this has become politicised now.

These 'missing the point' and 'nothing to see' snipes are ridiculous

[Crimson Dynamo]

id let it go now Kizzy

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

He just doesn’t have the backbone to admit it. Too much at stake for him and his shot at No. 10.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

id let it go now Kizzy

Why? because you think you've railroaded me off the topic... You don't know me at all do you?

[Kizzy]

Youtube video

[jet]

So often there are cries of RACIST on here at the slightest opportunity, but when it comes to antisemitism it's a different story. A blind eye is turned to Corbyn's continuously ignoring and condoning it in his own party and even appearing to be antisemitic himself. There is no horror or admittance or shame, just a shifting of the goalposts to blame his opponents for 'smears', so yes, anyone who does that IS part of the problem. I haven't seen one Corbyn supporter saying 'he is very wrong, why hasn't he done anything about this!'. It's sheer hypocrisy.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Youtube video

Words, words and more words, and NO action.

[bots]

Alan Sugar has faced calls to "disown" a tweet he sent which depicts Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn sat in a car alongside Adolf Hitler.

Shadow chancellor John McDonnell appealed to the businessman to delete it and "bring people together".

Lord Sugar sent the image as Mr Corbyn said his party "must do better" in dealing with anti-Semitism.

It carried the caption: "When you're pictured at Nuremberg and claim you thought you were going to a car rally".

The city of Nuremberg was host to Nazi propaganda events after Hitler's rise to power.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43604058

[Crimson Dynamo]

welp

[jaxie]

Saw this in the news today too. I can't see Sugar being cowed by calls to remove it. Will be interesting to watch the storm over it today.

[arista]

He still needs to go on a national T V news
and stop this.

It is all in his hands

Even War Criminal Blair is attacking him
was on LBC

[arista]

Sugar hates Corbyn

Sugar is 100% New Labour

[jet]

Sugar tweeted: It is a joke , but the angry brigade like to moan
He then retweeted a photo of JC at a Lab rally in Milton Keynes yesterday with a councillor who used to be in the local neo-Nazi organisation.
https://twitter.com/Lord_Sugar

[Kizzy]

He's removed it.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...n-hitler-tweet