[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

There's as much evidence of a stranger having kidnapped Maddie as any other theory in this case (which is zero) The one thing we do know for sure is that Maddies parents left her and her younger siblings alone in the apartment and went out for the evening. Perhaps that is why people tend to focus on that part of it. So far there has been no link between this German guy and Maddie other than he was in that area at the time

I'll just add my agreement to this post too.

[Good King Glennceslas]

This should be something that we all agree on but weirdly it isn’t

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

The investigation was a mess from the start. It's been 18 years, the poor girl is already gone.
My feeling is that suspect that is being investigated is the one responsible.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

The investigation was a mess from the start. It's been 18 years, the poor girl is already gone.
My feeling is that suspect that is being investigated is the one responsible.

Same


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[Good King Glennceslas]

And clearly less than being left on your own while your parents go out for drinks

[Good King Glennceslas]

There would have been next to no risk at all if her neglectful parents hadn’t left them. I’d ask the parents of TiBB to confirm whether they would leave their young children in a hotel room anywhere in the world to go out for drinks. Let’s see who will die on this hill.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

There would have been next to no risk at all if her neglectful parents hadn’t left them. I’d ask the parents of TiBB to confirm whether they would leave their young children in a hotel room anywhere in the world to go out for drinks. Let’s see who will die on this hill.

Certainly not, furthest I would go is my own garden, in my own town in my own country...


Not even sure why they took the kids on holiday, seeing as they spent every available hour at the hotels kids club.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Beso

Not even sure why they took the kids on holiday, seeing as they spent every available hour at the hotels kids club.

Only evenings .. I am sure they had wonderful family times during the daytime especially given they were fairly wealthy


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[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Only evenings .. I am sure they had wonderful family times during the daytime especially given they were fairly wealthy


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Never evenings, they were in the kids club during the day. If they'd been at a kids club in the evening, we wouldn't be here talking about this now...

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

There would have been next to no risk at all if her neglectful parents hadn’t left them. I’d ask the parents of TiBB to confirm whether they would leave their young children in a hotel room anywhere in the world to go out for drinks. Let’s see who will die on this hill.

Well we never let our kids out of our sight until they were about 13 or 14 but we are both worriers ( and non drinkers )

So many couples ( many people in fact ) have lives centred around drinking alcohol at home or at bars and clubs !!

To everyone
How many of your friends and family are non drinkers ? Bet its the vast minority !!


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[Good King Glennceslas]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Well we never let our kids out of our sight until they were about 13 or 14 but we are both worriers ( and non drinkers )

So many couples ( many people in fact ) have lives centred around drinking alcohol at home or at bars and clubs !!

To everyone
How many of your friends and family are non drinkers ? Bet its the vast minority !!


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Not sure what your point is about drinking alcohol. You agree that the parents were negligent in leaving them then yes? As a parent who never let your kids out of your sight you agree that you’d never leave your children in a hotel room anywhere.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

There would have been next to no risk at all if her neglectful parents hadn’t left them. I’d ask the parents of TiBB to confirm whether they would leave their young children in a hotel room anywhere in the world to go out for drinks. Let’s see who will die on this hill.

Absolutely not and I would also wonder how true the claim made that loads of people do that on Holiday is. In my experience most people when on holiday with children take them with them for food in the evening, you'd often see younger children asleep in buggys towards the end of the evening

[Candy Annie Cane]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

There would have been next to no risk at all if her neglectful parents hadn’t left them. I’d ask the parents of TiBB to confirm whether they would leave their young children in a hotel room anywhere in the world to go out for drinks. Let’s see who will die on this hill.

I would have never left my child alone - ever. Here or in another country. I have never used a kids club on holiday. He has always been with me - it is after all a FAMILY holiday.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I would have never left my child alone - ever. Here or in another country. I have never used a kids club on holiday. He has always been with me - it is after all a FAMILY holiday.

Me neither

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

There would have been next to no risk at all if her neglectful parents hadn’t left them. I’d ask the parents of TiBB to confirm whether they would leave their young children in a hotel room anywhere in the world to go out for drinks. Let’s see who will die on this hill.

I wouldn't even go down to the bins with my son still in the house alone, it's absolutely bizarre to even consider.

[Ammi]

Police have been scouring scrubland and abandoned structures near the Portuguese town of Praia da Luz, where the three-year-old British girl was last seen 18 years ago.

They spent two days focusing on one particular derelict building, using a ground-penetrating radar on the cobbled ground after clearing the area of debris and vegetation.

There was an option to extend the search until tomorrow if any clues had been found - but officers turned up "nothing of consequence".

…full article…

https://www.lbc.co.uk/crime/madelein...ds-three-days/

[Zizu]

It's difficult to provide a precise number of parents who leave their children unattended on holiday. While the law doesn't specify a minimum age, many parents and carers leave children home alone during the summer holidays, which can be a serious issue.
The NSPCC Helpline saw a large increase in contacts related to children being left alone or unsupervised during the summer holidays. In 2022, they received 453 calls and emails about children being left alone.
Between 1957 and 2023, the NSPCC Helpline received 4,717 contacts about children being left alone or unsupervised. 1,015 of these contacts were made during July and August.
The NSPCC has also reported a significant increase in concerns raised by adults about children being left alone, with a 65% increase in adult concerns.
It's important to remember that while there is no legal age for leaving children alone, parents and carers should carefully consider their child's maturity and ability to cope with unexpected situations. The NSPCC urges parents to think carefully about whether their child is ready to be left home alone.


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[Zizu]

During the months of July and August, there’s an increase in contacts to our Helpline about children being left home alone.
Neglect was the top concern in Helpline sessions in 2022/23, with 11,428 contacts. Of these, more than 40% (4,717) mentioned a child being left alone or unsupervised.
The number of contacts about children being left unsupervised increased during the summer holidays, with 1,015 contacts to the Helpline about this issue over July and August in 2022.
We wouldn’t recommend leaving a child under 12 years old home alone, particularly for a long time.


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[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Zizu

During the months of July and August, there’s an increase in contacts to our Helpline about children being left home alone.
Neglect was the top concern in Helpline sessions in 2022/23, with 11,428 contacts. Of these, more than 40% (4,717) mentioned a child being left alone or unsupervised.
The number of contacts about children being left unsupervised increased during the summer holidays, with 1,015 contacts to the Helpline about this issue over July and August in 2022.
We wouldn’t recommend leaving a child under 12 years old home alone, particularly for a long time.


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I'm talking about when people are on foreign holidays not when children are on their summer holidays from school.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I'm talking about when people are on foreign holidays not when children are on their summer holidays from school.

It’s still neglect


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[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Zizu

It’s still neglect


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Of course it is but nothing to do with the point I was making about people on holiday with children

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Of course it is but nothing to do with the point I was making about people on holiday with children

It shows that this type of neglect is perhaps more common than we think … you cast some doubt on the idea ..


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[Zizu]

The parents of missing Madeleine McCann left their three children alone in their apartment every night of their holiday because they did not want a stranger to babysit, it has emerged.
But, tragically, the routine may have allowed whoever abducted their daughter the chance to build up a picture of their movements while he planned his crime.


Doctors Kate and Gerry McCann decided not to employ a £10-an-hour babysitter to look after Madeleine, three, and two-year-old twins, Sean and Amelie, while they went for dinner, because they "don't like leaving them with strangers", their family said.
Mrs McCann's mother, Susan Healy, said the couple had made a mistake in leaving the children alone, but criticism of them was totally unjustified

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[Good King Glennceslas]

Originally Posted by Zizu

The parents of missing Madeleine McCann left their three children alone in their apartment every night of their holiday because they did not want a stranger to babysit, it has emerged.
But, tragically, the routine may have allowed whoever abducted their daughter the chance to build up a picture of their movements while he planned his crime.


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Even worse that they did it every night. And people are defending this.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Zizu

The parents of missing Madeleine McCann left their three children alone in their apartment every night of their holiday because they did not want a stranger to babysit, it has emerged.
But, tragically, the routine may have allowed whoever abducted their daughter the chance to build up a picture of their movements while he planned his crime.


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That makes no sense what so ever considering they left their kids with "strangers" everyday in the kids club, I believe the complex had a child minding service using the same staff so.........