[Cherie]

Probably the only decision they could make, that lets them off without too much egg on its face

Just listening to the background properly now, horrific

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Probably the only decision they could make, that lets them off without too much egg on its face

Just listening to the background properly now, horrific

I don't think they expected it to blow up in the international press and it's fallen apart under so many eyes... so now they want it to go away ASAP. I don't think the story is over yet, though, now that the media in Israel itself is focussed on the men involved (some of whom it increasingly seems have other dodgy incidents in their past), and groups on Cyprus are using the attention to try to tackle corruption in the system there.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

This case confuses me so much.

She agreed to have sex with One Israeli
and his mate.

But Not another group of the fella's
holding her down.
Filmed on their Mobile Phone
and already out there......

The Main Problem
is in Cyprus Police they keep
No Recordings
No written record?
That helps the Police become Corrupt.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by arista

She agreed to have sex with One Israeli
and his mate.

But Not another group of the fella's
holding her down.
Filmed on their Mobile Phone
and already out there......

The Main Problem
is in Cyprus Police they keep
No Recordings
No written record?
That helps the Police become Corrupt.

I don't think she agreed to have sex with "his mate" from what I've read she was having a holiday romance (or so she thought) with one of the boys and he was the only one she agreed to have sex with

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I don't think she agreed to have sex with "his mate" from what I've read she was having a holiday romance (or so she thought) with one of the boys and he was the only one she agreed to have sex with

yes as I understand it she was having sex with one of the men who she considered her boyfriend and the rest starting banging on the hotel room door and bragged before hand about having an orgy with the English girl, apparently there is a video circulating as well where they filmed both him and her without consent

[Zizu]

I may have misjudged things completely but I think she’s totally innocent and maybe we will get to know the whole truth now


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[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I may have misjudged things completely but I think she’s totally innocent and maybe we will get to know the whole truth now


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...I believe that too...and while our focus has been on what this young lady has gone through, for obvious reasons...?...those she accused, have walked free...this whole thing and how victims of this horrific crime are universally disbelieved, is just so terribly wrong and saddening...the judgement placed on female behaviour and male behaviour, still has a long way to go to meet each other.....

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I believe that too...and while our focus has been on what this young lady has gone through, for obvious reasons...?...those she accused, have walked free...this whole thing and how victims of this horrific crime are universally disbelieved, is just so terribly wrong and saddening...the judgement placed on female behaviour and male behaviour, still has a long way to go to meet each other.....

Isn’t it extremely difficult to get a rape conviction in this country ... guessing it’s virtually impossible abroad ..


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[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Isn’t it extremely difficult to get a rape conviction in this country ... guessing it’s virtually impossible abroad ..


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The Northern Ireland case involving the rugby players, they had a testimony from the cab driver who brought her home saying the girl was bleeding and upset but those guys still got away with it......

[arista]

https://news.sky.com/story/cyprus-br...tence-11902723

Yes at least she can get proper medical
help on her return.

[Strictly Jake]

So did she lie or not?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Strictly Jake

So did she lie or not?

The evidence is pointing to no, she was 'encouraged' to change her statement by the Cypriot police

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Strictly Jake

So did she lie or not?

I think she told the truth ..


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[Kazanne]

I am changing my mind on this,I think she is innocent and was pressured ,I hope she gets the help she needs when back home .

[arista]

Great the locals and other groups
supported her at Court today

[Tom4784]

The way rape cases are handled are completely archaic across the board and it's allowed rape culture to fester around the world. Predators act with impunity when they know the system's weighted in their favour and it's no wonder why a majority of women will experience some form of sexual assault in their lives.

Rape cases and how they are held must change but I doubt they ever will.

[Kizzy]

A 4 month suspended sentence, they are going to appeal it still to have the conviction quashed.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9273146.html

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

A 4 month suspended sentence, they are going to appeal it still to have the conviction quashed.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9273146.html

Will she need to go back there to do that?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Will she need to go back there to do that?

I don't know.. that would be awful, it might be something they could do in her absence seeing as they have a time line of procedures that weren't followed correctly.
If she does I can't see her doing it, she's been through enough. This does need looking at from the beginning again though so who knows? what a nightmare.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I don't know.. that would be awful, it might be something they could do in her absence seeing as they have a time line of procedures that weren't followed correctly.
If she does I can't see her doing it, she's been through enough. This does need looking at from the beginning again though so who knows? what a nightmare.

I'd be terrified to go back in case things go wrong

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I'd be terrified to go back in case things go wrong

True, but she has an amazing amount of support across the globe so that's great to see and might spur her on?

[Tom4784]

Let's hope that this ordeal leads to a light being shone on Cyprus' legal system and it's corruption. The judge in question apparently has mishandled rape cases before so I'm hoping that, with all the spotlight on this one, there's consequences for him.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Let's hope that this ordeal leads to a light being shone on Cyprus' legal system and it's corruption. The judge in question apparently has mishandled rape cases before so I'm hoping that, with all the spotlight on this one, there's consequences for him.

Yes "many" who have been in Cyprus
and were on Live LBC telling us
of the Corruption of the Police,

[Nicky91]

very confusing case this one

good for the girl she didn't lie and Always told the truth, i Always knew the guys were in the wrong (if not for the rape, then for the filming without consent but now they are for both) also good she can go home


as for the cypriot justice system i won't say anything too much about them, since the last big case before this one they did handle that properly

[Niamh.]

The thing about it is, how likely is it really that any girl (even if she's drunk and I don't know if she was or not) would think oh yeah i would love to have 12 strangers(or 12 non strangers either for that matter) have sex with me? It's not going to be an enjoyable or pleasant experience for her and it's just so highly unlikely that she consented to being passed around and humiliated like a piece of meat. It's so weird that (mostly) men think that this is something that a girl would like or enjoy at the time but then "have regrets" later in the light of day