[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You're my favourite forum child, I hope you know

Step away from Cal, I have already adopted him

[Beso]

Something to read on the train...how wonderful

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Something to read on the train...how wonderful

8 pages bet you weren’t expecting that

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Swan

Historically i admit with no reservations that black people has faced much, much harsher racism.

However my point is here is everyone needs accept racism and homophobia exists, it always will unfortunately. But the people fighting bigotry need not to isolate those on THEIR side because they happen to be a straight white male. Im not saying you, im not saying all, im saying a fair few of the people fighting for diversity exclude the white straight male, this shouldn't happen, i can assure you millions of straight whit males what their fellow man, woman and child to be accepted no matter race, religion and sexuality.

Some of the videos of seen of the extreme left being openly racist towards white people, whist demonstrating AGAINST racism is astounding. We'll never progress if we can't accept others differences, no matter what they may be.

You're saying im playing the 'im white it's all about me card' well you're absolutely wrong, im not playing a card here. Political correctness is nothing more than a joke now, it isolates people, it separates people, it is bad for progression, bad for a democratic society.

Imo opinion this 'white straight male' ideology adopted by a large section of the left (especially the over hypocritical middle class young voter) cost Labour big time. Good honest people are being told how they have life easy because of race, sexuality, when in reality this just simply isn't true.

We need to be united, we need to be accepting of one another, acceptance is key, and that works both ways.

edit - it's too late in the night to correct all those outstanding typo's, and im operating on a sleeping pill here.

Says it all for me..spot on post Swan.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Ant.

idk why but this justification always makes me laugh. stealing is against the law. murder is against the law. both of that **** happens on the daily. is it rly that hard to believe that the laws you're referring to can be broken. like do u hand on heart think there's not a single employer in this day and age that hasn't hired a person based on their gender or the fact their name isn't "white-sounding". like not even just one

You are basically saying black people can't be employees...or only white straight males are...now that's discrimination right there...

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Oh swan **** off , there is no "white man struggles " ffs, are you bored or something?

That's the biggest load of **** ever...half this forum ****ing struggles in life fgs...that has become very clear lately with all these xmas posts...

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

I'm struggling to see what is so hard to miss. Discrimination happens everyday. Mental health problems in BAME groups as a result of discrimination in the UK is increasing

You're making things up unless you source it. I can just as easily say "mental health in BAME groups is better than ever"

[thesheriff443]

Niamh for the last time!, stop telling members to fxxx off,

No matter how much you disagree with a poster Niamh you can’t tell members to fxxx off or do you think your above forum rules.

Can admin see this post and realise the hypocrisy going on and blatant double standards

[thesheriff443]

It’s white males that are at the top of suicide rates.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

That's the biggest load of **** ever...half this forum ****ing struggles in life fgs...that has become very clear lately with all these xmas posts...

Again... the point is your struggles aren't created out of the fact you were born white or a man. Nobody's said you don't have struggles but "white man struggles" just no.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

It’s white males that are at the top of suicide rates.

Right?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

You're making things up unless you source it. I can just as easily say "mental health in BAME groups is better than ever"

You've literally not sourced a single one of your own assertions.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

You've literally not sourced a single one of your own assertions.

"Everyone is now on equal footing" is the default position to take, it's like needing to source "everyone who's alive has been born"

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Again... the point is your struggles aren't created out of the fact you were born white or a man. Nobody's said you don't have struggles but "white man struggles" just no.

My struggles and perhaps others are not being allowed to mend because of the way seemingly pale male stale males get treated on thos forum by the very people shouting the most for diversity. ..That's what this thread is about.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

My struggles and perhaps others are not being allowed to mend because of the way seemingly pale male stale males get treated on thos forum by the very people shouting the most for diversity. ..That's what this thread is about.

So... your real life non-forum issues/problems etc are not healing because of the phrase pale male stale on this forum?

Ok.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

"Everyone is now on equal footing" is the default position to take, it's like needing to source "everyone who's alive has been born"

So everyone's equal.... because Oliver said? Even though there's vast inequality staring you in the face in the world?

Do you read your posts back before posting?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

So everyone's equal.... because Oliver said? Even though there's vast inequality staring you in the face in the world?

Where is it? Because Marsh said so?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Where is it? Because Marsh said so?

Go outside and live in the world.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Go outside and live in the world.

I do. And guess what? People of all ethnicities and both genders face disadvantages. There's just nothing to suggest any particular ones have it worse any more.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I do. And guess what? People of all ethnicities and both genders face disadvantages. There's just nothing to suggest any particular ones have it worse any more.

Where did I say everyone doesn't face disadvantages?

We're specifically discussing racial, gender and sexuality based discrimination.

Nothing to suggest? Really?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Nothing to suggest? Really?

What have you personally witnessed along those lines?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

What have you personally witnessed along those lines?

I see it every day. I work in a shopping district and the amount of verbal and often physical racial abuse the Asian bloke opposite gets on a weekly basis is appalling.

But... you didn't see it, so it doesn't exist.

Just as neither of us see the black lives lost to racial profiling in the States... so it doesn't exist.

[Liam-]

I’ve never experienced a tornado but they definitely happen, we all live in a personal bubble, we go by our own experiences of course we do, but to say everything is alright and equal in the world because we haven’t personally experienced something is purposeful ignorance

[Twosugars]

I think admins and mods on this forum need to work out rules on fake news and fake opinions.
Someone like in this thread can claim black is white and waste everybody's time.
Reality is the only reference point we've got and it is not up for negotiation or we enter a cuckoo's land.

[Ammi]

...we all face struggles, we all face different disadvantages...(..and sometimes advantages..)...those are life things/human things...they’re not things that we face discriminations or prejudices for...