[Ammi]

...episode 6...

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...that was very strange I thought because with Christopher and Shane, they were last seen with a male and female older child or young adults...?...both last seen with those two people and those people, weren’t they interviewed by the police as well ...but it wasn’t pursued...that feels really odd to me...especially as they approached Rosa and asked if they could play with Shane...if they were t involved, was it someone that they knew...someone watching them because that person knew they liked to momentarily take the care of children from their parents in asking if they could play with...?....also, the man who sat down next to Rosa, talking to her and possibly distracting her...and ‘who reportedly spoke about how bad things happen to children whose parents do not pay enough attention, which is a sinister coincidence given what happened next.’...it’s all so terribly tragic and as the officer said, those first few hours were vital in hoping to find...but they weren’t able to...

‘These eerily similar cases have also been discussed in association with a third missing persons case, that being Andre Bryant, who disappeared at only one month old in March 1989.

In the days leading up to his abduction, his mother, Monique Rivera, had become acquainted with two women who had taken her shopping for new clothes.

They invited her out a second time, insisting that she bring her newborn boy with her; Monique’s body was found bludgeoned to death the next day, while Andre has never been found to this day.

As all three infants were African-American and residing in the same neighbourhood at the same time, there has been speculation that the disappearances could be connected.‘

...although differences in that disappearance, another resident of Martin Luther King Jr Towers...


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[Ammi]

...with the Lady in the Lake one...

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...I’m really not sure with JoAnn Romain, there are some oddities for sure...but there is so much family animosity with it being said that she was fearful Tim Matouk and feuds within the family etc, that’s all very clouded with all of the finger pointing and none of the bad blood might have any bearing so it’s hard to find that clearing...

[Ammi]

...Death Row Prisoner...

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...I don’t believe in the death penalty but he was on death row for what he did and was obviously only saved from his death because of the law change...and then somehow, that alternate life sentence for his heinous crime...(...and his previous history also, this was a repeat offender of the most awful of assaults against children..)...was suddenly on day release...out shopping, un escorted in a shopping mall filled with families.../...filled with children...?..and no, I don’t think a lawsuit was ever filed by the family...I read that Brenda, Mary Ellen’s sister who was with her doing the laundry...had emotional counselling her whole life until her own death...so wrong and so sad...

[Niamh.]

Ep6

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Christopher was left with his sisters wasn't he, they weren't the same children as Shane?! Or have I missed something

How do you know that man spoke about children being taken?

[Ammi]

...I should have put the link in to the particular site...I read a few sites, so I’ve just searched the one again...

https://www.radiotimes.com/news/tv/2...kids-theories/

[Ammi]

...this is a cold case site.../CNN...

https://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/1...ker/index.html

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I should have put the link in to the particular site...I read a few sites, so I’ve just searched the one again...



https://www.radiotimes.com/news/tv/2...kids-theories/

Wow strange that they didn't mention those things in the episode, they're pretty important

[Ammi]

...I was reading also, that so much is often left out because of the time restrictions of these episodes ....there seems to be a lot with the bad family blood complications of the Lady in the Lake as well that wasn’t in the episode...

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...with the children being the same children with both missing boys...one was a ten yr old, the other a five yr old...it could be that the person who took or harmed them had a direct link with those children or actually using them but they didn’t know what was happening...the guy striking up that conversation about the previous missing child at the exact moment as well...those two children were seen later, returning to the playground through a hole or gap in a wire fence..(...so they had left and gone somewhere and then returned, possibly...if that’s correct...)...

[Niamh.]

Ep6

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seems like a different mo to actually murder the mother with the Andre case

[Ammi]

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...sadly, I don’t think that Christopher and Shane were sold, I think they were harmed but that’s just a feeling based on nothing...but either way, it’s strange that the disappearances stopped when that person must have felt that they were getting away with their crimes... but they didn’t continue in that play park...

[Niamh.]

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I suppose that's the only thing that suggests it could be a childless person, the fact that it stopped after 2, not sure i believe that though still

[LukeB]

Lady in The Lake Episode

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I do not believe Joann committed suicide at all, I think she was murdered by her cousin or some random attack but I just feel the cousin either did it or got someone to do it.

If it was her cousin it would make sense why the police were so awful with this case as they would cover up and protect their own... They were set on suicide but when things didn't make sense they still thought it was suicide and they didn't even took prints off Joann's handbag which was ruined.

As if she could walk on ice and that rock path with those heels and the heels weren't even damaged it just doesn't really make sense

[Smithy]

I really have no interest in finishing this season off, I watched the ghost one and it was just depressing, at least the alien one was low key funny

[UserSince2005]

Ive watched the first 4 now. Olso was definitely the most interesting. I really like to know what actually happened.

[Cherie]

Lady in the Lake

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feel like it probably was suicide, as it started out with it all appearing like happy families and ended up with there actually being an incredible amount of animosity, she could have driven away and then returned, the only issue for me is the torn handbag but she could have done that herself, I didn’t see her filling up the car as a dealbreaker in it being suicide

[Cal.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Lady in the Lake

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feel like it probably was suicide, as it started out with it all appearing like happy families and ended up with there actually being an incredible amount of animosity, she could have driven away and then returned, the only issue for me is the torn handbag but she could have done that herself, I didn’t see her filling up the car as a dealbreaker in it being suicide

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Yeah and I felt like the motives weren’t big enough to have her murdered? I think her daughter Michelle came across really well though, but I think it may be denial on the family’s part?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Cal.

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Yeah and I felt like the motives weren’t big enough to have her murdered? I think her daughter Michelle came across really well though, but I think it may be denial on the family’s part?

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I think they are in denial as well, suicide with no note or indication the person had suicidal tendencies must be very difficult to come to terms with, she may have been suffering from some kind of paranoia as well as she thought she was being followed/watched?

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Lady in the Lake

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feel like it probably was suicide, as it started out with it all appearing like happy families and ended up with there actually being an incredible amount of animosity, she could have driven away and then returned, the only issue for me is the torn handbag but she could have done that herself, I didn’t see her filling up the car as a dealbreaker in it being suicide

Originally Posted by Cal.

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Yeah and I felt like the motives weren’t big enough to have her murdered? I think her daughter Michelle came across really well though, but I think it may be denial on the family’s part?

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Tbf a motive is a motive wether it’s big or small. There’s more signs it being a murder than a suicide imo. Could be a random attack that gone wrong or it was her cousin. handbag was torn, car was moved, she had some bruises, she didn’t leave a note, it’s against her belief and her phone was missing(which is always the first thing people get rid of after a murder)

[Shaun]

watched the WH Aide, Norway and Mary Beth episodes earlier... I was slightly bored by the WH Aide one just because there're so many loose ends and alternative explanations and it's basically bait for a bunch of sceptics to start guessing what he found out at work and how he "knew too much" etc etc.

The Norwegian one was interesting just from the DNA perspectives, how times have changed even since the 90s, and they were able to narrow down her DOB to a specific year. I do think she was a spy of some kind... and East Germans in the 70s just screams all sorts of political intrigue.

The Mary Beth one is equal parts heartbreaking and infuriating. Like Ammi said: staunch death penalty opponent here, and believer in rehabilitation, etc, but... what a piece of ****. And the frustrating part is it isn't really a mystery at all... someone knows where he is and isn't telling.