[arista]

She (Armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed)
is Young
Nicky

Ideal to get the Blame


Hannah

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by arista

She (Armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed)
is Young
Nicky

Ideal to get the Blame

a girl????? lmao, whose idea was it to hire a girl for that sort of job




that's literally asking for trouble, because that is a man's job, nothing for a schoolgirl

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

a girl????? lmao, whose idea was it to hire a girl for that sort of job




that's literally asking for trouble, because that is a man's job, nothing for a schoolgirl

Yes, in the USA, Women have Rights
maybe she was cheap enough
as a Proper Qualified Fella
would cost so much more.




Alec had to trim the Production costs
to keep the movie being made

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

a girl????? lmao, whose idea was it to hire a girl for that sort of job




that's literally asking for trouble, because that is a man's job, nothing for a schoolgirl

Grow up, nicky.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by arista

She (Armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed)
is Young
Nicky

Ideal to get the Blame


Hannah

Skinhead girl.

[arista]

[Livia]

Everyone who handled the pistol, from the armourer to Baldwin himself, should have checked the firearm. The final person who should have checked was Baldwin. They ALL failed.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

Everyone who handled the pistol, from the armourer to Baldwin himself, should have checked the firearm. The final person who should have checked was Baldwin. They ALL failed.

Yes, but Baldwin is blaming
the young lady

And so are his Lawyers


I was amazed to learn
he wants the film to get made, still.

[GoldHeart]

Whoever was in charge of the weapon is guilty,but Baldwin should have also checked it. I will never understand why in this day & age ...when health & safety is meant to be the priority ,that live ammunition was ACTUALLY USED when it's supposed to be a prop .

Have production teams learnt nothing from previous disasters & deaths ... Brandon Lee being the one that really sticks in my mind.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Whoever was in charge of the weapon is guilty,but Baldwin should have also checked it. I will never understand why in this day & age ...when health & safety is meant to be the priority ,that live ammunition was ACTUALLY USED when it's supposed to be a prop .

Have production teams learnt nothing from previous disasters & deaths ... Brandon Lee being the one that really sticks in my mind.

Baldwin should have checked it over ?

I don’t recall Virgil Tracy giving the Thunderbird 2 undercarriage a quick once over before jetting off ..



But seriously, why should Baldwin be expected to check the gun first ?


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[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Baldwin should have checked it over ?

I don’t recall Virgil Tracy giving the Thunderbird 2 undercarriage a quick once over before jetting off ..



But seriously, why should Baldwin be expected to check the gun first ?


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Because wasn't Baldwin producing the film aswell , He wasn't just acting was he ?. He's been in the business a long time aswell. But like I said.... especially the person dealing with the gun ,but everyone on set should have done safety checks.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Baldwin should have checked it over ?

I don’t recall Virgil Tracy giving the Thunderbird 2 undercarriage a quick once over before jetting off ..



But seriously, why should Baldwin be expected to check the gun first ?


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Baldwin should have checked first because firearms are dangerous and he was the one who pulled the trigger and killed someone. I don't believe it "just went off".

Anyone who picks up a gun has a responsibility to check it. If you go to a gun range and take out a gun to fire that you know is empty, you still check it.

When Brandon Lee was shot on Crow they wanted the revolver to look like it was loaded with real bullets so for safety sake they removed the powder from each leaving just the empty cartridge and the bullet giving the appearance at close-up of a gun loaded with live rounds. At some point someone pulled the trigger and there was just enough gunpowder in the cartridge to move the bullet up into the barrel. Later the armourer emptied the gun into a bucket and didn't check it. Consequently when it was loaded with a blank, that had enough power to shoot the bullet that had lodged in the barrel and it killed someone. All for the want of people checking and treating firearms with respect.

We don't know the whole story with the Baldwin case but you can bet that there was several missed opportunities to spot the mistake if only people had taken a couple of seconds to check.

[bots]

they have a whole series of protocols that need to be followed when using fire arms on set, none of them seem to have been followed. As the films producer, that is Baldwin's responsibility

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

they have a whole series of protocols that need to be followed when using fire arms on set, none of them seem to have been followed. As the films producer, that is Baldwin's responsibility

It suggests to me unfortuantely that complacency is maybe quite common on film sets - or has been - because accidents have been extremely rare. Hopefully if anything has come of this, it's that productions actually stick to those protocols.

And as I said above - use live rounds far less, or not at all, and rely more on post-processing.

[Alf]

Not sure if there's any truth in it or not, but apparently the lady who was shot was about to drop some information on Hilary Clinton.

There was a tweet from her, which I did see that confirms that. Whether that tweet was a real tweet or fake I don't know.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Alf

Not sure if there's any truth in it or not, but apparently the lady who was shot was about to drop some information on Hilary Clinton.

There was a tweet from her, which I did see that confirms that. Whether that tweet was a real tweet or fake I don't know.

Sounds like another crazy conspiracy theory Alf


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[Alf]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Sounds like another crazy conspiracy theory Alf


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That's what I'm here for.

[arista]

[Alec Baldwin to resume filming Rust - 18 months
after the movie's cinematographer was shot dead

The filming will take place amid ongoing
legal battles, and there are still at least five civil cases
against Baldwin and the producers of Rust.
He has also been charged with involuntary manslaughter,
which carries a maximum 18-month prison sentence.]

https://news.sky.com/story/alec-bald...-dead-12861493

[arista]

[Alec Baldwin: All criminal charges against actor
over fatal shooting on Rust set are dropped]

https://news.sky.com/story/alec-bald...opped-12862134

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

[Alec Baldwin: All criminal charges against actor
over fatal shooting on Rust set are dropped]

https://news.sky.com/story/alec-bald...opped-12862134

This isn't a surprise.

[arista]

From CNN HD USA Live on UK TV

Alec Baldwin
had to have Police Protection
as he walked to a Teaching/Acting Session.

He was mobbed by Pro Palestine Protestors
in Manhattan








https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...l-blocked.html

[Mystic Mock]

Tbf to him, I don't believe either side of the Israel vs Palestine debate should be harassing someone over the topic when Alec Baldwin's job has absolutely nothing to do with Israel vs Palestine.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbf to him, I don't believe either side of the Israel vs Palestine debate should be harassing someone over the topic when Alec Baldwin's job has absolutely nothing to do with Israel vs Palestine.

He was not aware of the Massive Demo,
he was walking to his Teaching Acting session.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by arista

He was not aware of the Massive Demo,
he was walking to his Teaching Acting session.

Exactly.

So why is someone bothering him during that time? Especially given that Alec Baldwin isn't even a Politician.

[arista]

Easy Target