[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

The problem I found throughout the video, in simple terms, was that she too often takes a premise as accepted and builds a long argument on that premise ... but without making an argument for the premise. The root of logical debate is working a problem back until you reach an agreed premise and I think she jumps the gun on what's agreed.

In terms of "NB identities" for example, to even start down the route of validity you have to be at a place of agreement that the gender binary is real, that it's meaningful, and that the "problem" isn't the initial societal gender expectations and stereotypes. If you counter that that's effectively what NB identities are about... you also have to have the agreed premise that non-traditional gender presentations necessitate categorising and labelling.

My observation is actually that it's a late-millenial/early GenZ phenomenon, the later GenZ's and especially Gen Alpha kids seem to be moving past the rigitidy into a looser "I am what I am" territory that I personally think is likely to be a far healthier and less conflicted mindset.

That is what we were always aiming for in the 90's as teens too though. To get rid of labels as such (except obviously were biology matters in a physical way) that people can like, dress, have a career in or enjoy whatever hobbies they want regardless of their sex

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I haven't watched it through yet but she does come across as a reasonable person. Obviously has biases though (as most of us do) I can see why she thinks the way she does about the JK Rowling stuff as a trans woman however as a woman I see it differently, especially as a woman who has always been invested in women's rights. I still find it hard to understand why people thing it's more likely that JK Rowling has an anti trans agenda rather than a pro women's rights agenda (especially as she's a victim of domestic abuse herself)

This is the part that Contra did the best for me. Probably because it aligns more naturally with the way that I've spoken about bigotry in the past around this subject, and how it isn't always the intention to be against something, but often for something else. If you get the chance to watch it, I'd be really interested in getting your thoughts on that particular topic.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

This is the part that Contra did the best for me. Probably because it aligns more naturally with the way that I've spoken about bigotry in the past around this subject, and how it isn't always the intention to be against something, but often for something else. If you get the chance to watch it, I'd be really interested in getting your thoughts on that particular topic.

I have a bit of a drive to do after work today so I'll put the rest of it on in the car.

ETA. Although I probably won't post about it again till after the weekend, going somewhere where the internet is sketchy (plus honestly I enjoy not being online at the weekends!)

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I have a bit of a drive to do after work today so I'll put the rest of it on in the car.

ETA. Although I probably won't post about it again till after the weekend, going somewhere where the internet is sketchy (plus honestly I enjoy not being online at the weekends!)

You off to the cottage? Enjoy your weekend, and I look forward to your thoughts next week.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

You off to the cottage? Enjoy your weekend, and I look forward to your thoughts next week.

Yep Thanks I will

Are you up to much?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

going somewhere where the internet is sketchy

Niamh leaving us on a quest to moderate the darkweb

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Niamh leaving us on a quest to moderate the darkweb

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yep Thanks I will

Are you up to much?

Nah, not this weekend. Spent most of Christmas/ny away, so just chilling. My cooker died last night and they can't come out until next Thursday, so I'm going to turn into a slob watching tv, and buried in the middle of loads of take away containers

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Nah, not this weekend. Spent most of Christmas/ny away, so just chilling. My cooker died last night and they can't come out until next Thursday, so I'm going to turn into a slob watching tv, and buried in the middle of loads of take away containers

That doesn't sound so bad