[Cherie]

Vicky are you referring to the April Jones case? Fragments of bone from her skull were found in the woodburner so there was some physical evidence found by the dogs if that is the case you mean

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Vicky are you referring to the April Jones case? Fragments of bone from her skull were found in the woodburner so there was some physical evidence found by the dogs if that is the case you mean

No, a very recent one that I saw on the news like 2 nights ago. Cadaver scent in some guys basement and his van but no body or anything found.

Edit. Infact I think it was the most recent crimewatch that I saw it on I only remember it because such a fuss was made over the no physical evidence part of it.

Edit again. It was on crimewatch... http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b046...t-david-gilroy this guy I think it was. WIll have to rewatch it now as there is no mention of dogs in that story and I specifically remember them saying the dogs was the main evidence so it might be the wrong one

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

No, a very recent one that I saw on the news like 2 nights ago. Cadaver scent in some guys basement and his van but no body or anything found.

Edit. Infact I think it was the most recent crimewatch that I saw it on I only remember it because such a fuss was made over the no physical evidence part of it.

Edit again. It was on crimewatch... http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b046...t-david-gilroy this guy I think it was. WIll have to rewatch it now as there is no mention of dogs in that story and I specifically remember them saying the dogs was the main evidence so it might be the wrong one

Yes it was the Gilroy case, no body, but charged with murder on dog evidence

[Z]

If her body was buried where they're searching then surely by now, 7 years later, there will be nothing but bones left for them to find? At which point it'll surely be impossible to determine a cause of death? The whole bloody thing is just flawed from start to finish.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Z

If her body was buried where they're searching then surely by now, 7 years later, there will be nothing but bones left for them to find? At which point it'll surely be impossible to determine a cause of death? The whole bloody thing is just flawed from start to finish.

At least they'll have found her and be able to put all this "hope she's alive" stuff to bed.

[Z]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

At least they'll have found her and be able to put all this "hope she's alive" stuff to bed.

If they can even confirm it's her, I don't know how badly a body would have decomposed if it's spent 7 summers in the baking Portuguese sunshine and who knows what kind of conditions throughout the rest of the year - then again if it's been buried in a scrubland then perhaps it's not too badly decomposed? I'm no expert. 7 years is a very long time though, if that little girl died in 2007 and the body's been there for all that time then I would question why they didn't search the area until now... yet another thread that leads to conspiracy land.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Z

If they can even confirm it's her, I don't know how badly a body would have decomposed if it's spent 7 summers in the baking Portuguese sunshine and who knows what kind of conditions throughout the rest of the year - then again if it's been buried in a scrubland then perhaps it's not too badly decomposed? I'm no expert. 7 years is a very long time though, if that little girl died in 2007 and the body's been there for all that time then I would question why they didn't search the area until now... yet another thread that leads to conspiracy land.

Lots of reasons why not searched until now Z ,and as far as Im aware the dna would still be intact as would drugs etc

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Z

If they can even confirm it's her, I don't know how badly a body would have decomposed if it's spent 7 summers in the baking Portuguese sunshine and who knows what kind of conditions throughout the rest of the year - then again if it's been buried in a scrubland then perhaps it's not too badly decomposed? I'm no expert. 7 years is a very long time though, if that little girl died in 2007 and the body's been there for all that time then I would question why they didn't search the area until now... yet another thread that leads to conspiracy land.

I'm sure some kind of DNA can be taken from bones/whatever's left.

I'm not a CSI expert but I'm sure there's some method of determining whether any remains belong to Madeleine.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Z

If they can even confirm it's her, I don't know how badly a body would have decomposed if it's spent 7 summers in the baking Portuguese sunshine and who knows what kind of conditions throughout the rest of the year - then again if it's been buried in a scrubland then perhaps it's not too badly decomposed? I'm no expert. 7 years is a very long time though, if that little girl died in 2007 and the body's been there for all that time then I would question why they didn't search the area until now... yet another thread that leads to conspiracy land.

They managed to prove the bones they dug up in Leicester were the bones of Richard III using DNA.

[chuff me dizzy]

IF (Im not ramming it down anyones necks) you want to read more of case files,please got to this link ,all bookmarks down left hand side of page ......... http://www.mccannfiles.com/

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

IF (Im not ramming it down anyones necks) you want to read more of case files,please got to this link ,all bookmarks down left hand side of page ......... http://www.mccannfiles.com/

It's not fair. The poor girl deserves some closure.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

IF (Im not ramming it down anyones necks) you want to read more of case files,please got to this link ,all bookmarks down left hand side of page ......... http://www.mccannfiles.com/

It's so easy to get caught up reading that site, the case is definitely intriguing and odd

[Kazanne]

Anyone watching the McCanns con man prog on channel 5

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Anyone watching the McCanns con man prog on channel 5

I am, idgi though, is the guy they hired not actually a secret service agent or whatever it was, why was he at the White House and stuff

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Smithy

I am, idgi though, is the guy they hired not actually a secret service agent or whatever it was, why was he at the White House and stuff

Well I watched all that Smithy and was no wiser at the end,all I can gather is he was supposed to be a hot shot tec,who conned loads of money from the McCann fund,still not sure though

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Well I watched all that Smithy and was no wiser at the end,all I can gather is he was supposed to be a hot shot tec,who conned loads of money from the McCann fund,still not sure though

He was part of a company ,whos only history was in money laundering, not missing children, McCanns handed over £700,000 of the money donated by children selling their toys and pensioners, why would they do that ? not once have they tried to get the money back ,why ? what did this firm find out? was it hush money ? this company was the ones that got the efit now being used by Scotland Yard as the best efit from an Irish family Smith who also named the man they saw as being Gerry McCann, McCann knew of these efits and threatened the company never to show them, they sat on them for 5 years (no stone unturned ?) and it was SY who found out about them ,when the company finally handed them over 5 years later

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

He was part of a company ,whos only history was in money laundering, not missing children, McCanns handed over £700,000 of the money donated by children selling their toys and pensioners, why would they do that ? not once have they tried to get the money back ,why ? what did this firm find out? was it hush money ? this company was the ones that got the efit now being used by Scotland Yard as the best efit from an Irish family Smith who also named the man they saw as being Gerry McCann, McCann knew of these efits and threatened the company never to show them, they sat on them for 5 years (no stone unturned ?) and it was SY who found out about them ,when the company finally handed them over 5 years later

Thanks for explaining that Chuff,it's certainly food for thought,everything about this case is bloody shady.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

He was part of a company ,whos only history was in money laundering, not missing children, McCanns handed over £700,000 of the money donated by children selling their toys and pensioners, why would they do that ? not once have they tried to get the money back ,why ? what did this firm find out? was it hush money ? this company was the ones that got the efit now being used by Scotland Yard as the best efit from an Irish family Smith who also named the man they saw as being Gerry McCann, McCann knew of these efits and threatened the company never to show them, they sat on them for 5 years (no stone unturned ?) and it was SY who found out about them ,when the company finally handed them over 5 years later

I didn't know about this....like I said in my earlier post there is information that is being witheld or hidden from the public (at all costs).

Would love this story to be blown wide open with fresh new evidence so the real truth of what happened that night can finally come to light.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Anyone watching the McCanns con man prog on channel 5

Not for me too much propaganda rammed down the gullible publics necks for last 7 years

[letmein]

So the parents still haven't been sent to jail for killing their kid...

[Kizzy]

I think the original question was would they be able to assess how she died and what if any abuse occurred prior to death, not if the body could be confirmed as her at all..
I can't understand why it's so alien to understand why this wouldn't be debated in a news section of a discussion forum, nobody is an expert on the subject here are they?

[Marsh.]

But surely confirming whether the body is Madeleine (if they find one) at all is the first priority?

[Kizzy]

Oh yes naturally, but confirming any exact cause now is going to be very hard
but they can do amazing things now so if they do find her I hope that there can be justice for her.
I totally agree with your point on neglect too, it was inexcusable and however bad I feel for them as a parent myself it was a shockingly selfish act considering how distressed she had been previously having been left

[Marsh.]

I hope justice is finally served too, for whatever happened to her.

[Livia]

I noticed at the end of the programme about the McCanns last night, there was a direct number to call to speak to Scotland yard if you had any information. I hope everyone on here with all that evidence did their duty and called.