[lostalex]

You know how it is to start a new job, it's very confusing, no one really knows what a new job is right away. For the first month you are quite naive in any job.

[arista]

Originally Posted by lostalex

i wonder how honest now. not completely honest.

No I am on here.
Thats why TIBB is cool

[arista]

Originally Posted by lostalex

You know how it is to start a new job, it's very confusing, no one really knows what a new job is right away. For the first month you are quite naive in any job.

Workers at RT America
in Washington know before they sign up
for work that Putin has control
over the station.

RT News is a new type of news


Alex you are up late its 20 to 2 in the morning in California

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by arista

Workers at RT America
in Washington know before they sign up
for work that Putin has control
over the station.

RT News is a new type of news


Alex you are up late its 20 to 2 in the morning in California

I've been awake since 8pm Tuesday. (Pacific time)

I'm emotional, i'm fragile. i prefer the world to be fuzzy. i long for this state., don't make me feel guilty for it. I'm too tired to be angry. the angry part is my danger zone. i'm so sick of being angry.

I much prefer to feel fragile and tired, than angry.

[arista]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I've been awake since 8pm Tuesday. (Pacific time)

I'm emotional, i'm fragile. i prefer the world to be fuzzy. i long for this state., don't make me feel guilty for it. I'm too tired to be angry. the angry part is my danger zone. i'm so sick of being angry.

OK Alex
take it easy

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by arista

OK Alex
take it easy

yes. easy is nicer thanks buddy.

i stay awake because i know when i go to sleep, when i wake up i'll be angry again, and i hate being angry. People think the angry me is the real me, but it's not. I look forward to the day i die, cause it mean i'll never be aggressive to the people i care about, i'll never be angry again.

[Livia]

As there was a thread recently on great headlines... I liked the Independent's attempt this week with "How Do You Solve a Problem Like Crimea?".

[Nedusa]

I am getting sick and tired of hearing about this crisis in the Ukraine and Russian aggression. I am tired if seeing western politicians queuing up to condemn Russia for the naked aggression and for causing this crisis.

After I get over the absolute shock and disbelief of the utter hypocrisy of the US in lecturing Russia about aggression ....!!!!

Afghanistan, Iraq, Egypt , Libya , Syria , Pakistan to name a few countries that the US has overtly or covertly interfered with and caused countless thousands of innocent people to lose their lives.

But Russia has invaded no one , killed no one so where is the crisis ??

The US has again fermented the situation in Kiev meddling as usual in an effort to try and overthrow a democratically ( if unpopular) president by use of fascist and neo fascist bully boys and now tries to legitimise this unelected mob.

The whole thing stinks to high heaven, everyone with half a brain knows why the US is trying to do this , they hope at some point a pro western govt in the Ukraine will deny Russia use of the Black Sea ports in the Crimea. That's it pure and simple , playing geopolitics .

But it will not work. With a large majority of ethnic Russians living in the Crimea it will always vote to allow Russia use of the Black Sea ports at Sevestapol .

It worries me that the US thinks it can mess with Russia in a country bordering Russia.

Most free thinking sensible rational normal people agree with this sequence of events yet our politicians still stick to this strange official line of Russian aggression etc..

Why .... The truth is clear to see.

[arista]

Yes a Utter Mess

[Z]

The US has been messing with Russia at its borders for years, see: the Baltic States joining NATO

[MTVN]

Is there a reason the Crimeans can't hold a referendum on the future of their region? The Ukrainian government condemn it as illegal and the EU and the US follow them but why shouldn't they hold one, it's results might offer a more peaceful solution to this crisis than this current determination to dismiss and stamp out any pro-Russian sentiment in Ukraine completely

[arista]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Is there a reason the Crimeans can't hold a referendum on the future of their region? The Ukrainian government condemn it as illegal and the EU and the US follow them but why shouldn't they hold one, it's results might offer a more peaceful solution to this crisis than this current determination to dismiss and stamp out any pro-Russian sentiment in Ukraine completely

Yes
but Crimea will still do one
its just a signed document says all of Ukraine
must vote on Crimea, but no time for that.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Is there a reason the Crimeans can't hold a referendum on the future of their region? The Ukrainian government condemn it as illegal and the EU and the US follow them but why shouldn't they hold one, it's results might offer a more peaceful solution to this crisis than this current determination to dismiss and stamp out any pro-Russian sentiment in Ukraine completely

The Western powers will do everything in their power to deny Russia any long term solution to the Crimea. Even though the Crimea used to be part of Russia until Kruschev gave it to Ukraine in 1954, even though it has over 60% ethnic Russians living there, the West does not want to see Russia achieve permanent control over the territory as it gives Russia access to the Black Sea and in turn the Med. It is Russia's only warm water naval port.

This whole crisis was fermented by the West to try and put a far more pro western govt into Kiev so this Govt could hold Russia to ransom in the Crimea.

They could in theory charge Russia huge leasing fees for use of the naval bases in Sevastapol or they could threaten to rip up the lease and ask Russia to leave. This would be a significant move as Russia's Naval strength would be severely diminished in the Med ie in places like Syria where it has a naval base in Tartus.

In the event this is Russia's red line and it will do whatever it takes to keep access to the Black Sea ports for its naval fleets.

Currently it does have a lease and permission to have 25,000 troops in their bases in Crimea so technically they have broken no laws in the last week.

This is just another attempt to destabilise Russia a bit of Bear baiting if you please....

[arista]

[Ousted Ukrainian president Yanukovych is seriously ill in hospital after suffering a heart attack, claim Russian press]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2vHXajo00

Stress Stress


[Deposed president of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych is in a Moscow hospital after suffering
a suspected heart attack, a Russian newspaper has claimed]

[Z]

Poor guy :/

[arista]

Originally Posted by Zee

Poor guy :/

who is his doctor
a Russian?

[Livia]

I'm slightly amused at the support for Russia on this thread. I'm sure there are plenty of people in the former USSR, East Germany, Poland etc. who will tell you that Russia's posturing is not a terribly good thing, and that life under their regime was grim at best. And those who have been so critical of our war in Afghanistan are suddenly supporting RUSSIA? And what about Chechnya, that was placed on the Genocide Watch List while the Russians occupied it? But hey... probably looks different from where other people are sitting.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'm slightly amused at the support for Russia on this thread. I'm sure there are plenty of people in the former USSR, East Germany, Poland etc. who will tell you that Russia's posturing is not a terribly good thing, and that life under their regime was grim at best. And those who have been so critical of our war in Afghanistan are suddenly supporting RUSSIA? And what about Chechnya, that was placed on the Genocide Watch List while the Russians occupied it? But hey... probably looks different from where other people are sitting.

Yes but its not Stalin in charge
Putin has his Crimea back
without Deaths.

Watching the 37 days last night , tonight and saturday
on BBC2HD shows us that the start of the W.W.1 was because
a Driver took the wrong road.


Germany needs Russia for its Mega Gas Supply.



Zee is due to visit Russia under his study term.


I respect your view Livia
but for me If I am buying from China , Russia
and Japan
goods are what we worry over
not " Save Me " banners.


I am fully aware of the Russia that got alot after WW2
simply due to Americans only turning up at the end
after Japan dragged them in.


Life In The City

[Livia]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes but its not Stalin in charge
Putin has his Crimea back
without Deaths.

Watching the 37 days last night , tonight and saturday
on BBC2HD shows us that the start of the W.W.1 was because
a Driver took the wrong road.


Germany needs Russia for its Mega Gas Supply.



Zee is due to visit Russia under his study term.


I respect your view Livia
but for me If I am buying from China , Russia
and Japan
goods are what we worry over
not " Save Me " banners.


I am fully aware of the Russia that got alot after WW2
simply due to Americans only turning up at the end
after Japan dragged them in.


Life In The City

Stalin wasn't in charge when they trundled their tanks into Chechnya in 1994.

Anyhoo... I respect your view too, arista, event though we clearly disagree.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

Stalin wasn't in charge when they trundled their tanks into Chechnya in 1994.

Anyhoo... I respect your view too, arista, event though we clearly disagree.

Of Course
I should not skip that tragedy.

[Sticks]

Livia

I suspect because of the anti-American feelings of some, if America is against Russia, then Russia is the one to support.

[arista]

best of mates

[arista]

Ukraine: Gunmen Seize Crimea Military Post
It was not clear if Russian forces were
involved in the attack in Sevastopol,
during which no shots were fired.



http://news.sky.com/story/1222197/uk...-military-post


Life In The Fast Lane

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'm slightly amused at the support for Russia on this thread. I'm sure there are plenty of people in the former USSR, East Germany, Poland etc. who will tell you that Russia's posturing is not a terribly good thing, and that life under their regime was grim at best. And those who have been so critical of our war in Afghanistan are suddenly supporting RUSSIA? And what about Chechnya, that was placed on the Genocide Watch List while the Russians occupied it? But hey... probably looks different from where other people are sitting.

So glad you found this amusing, so glad the sight of fascist and neo fascist Bully boys paying for snipers to kill innocent policemen and protesters amuses you.

Perhaps you would be better suited to posting on the BB and CBB forums and leave the serious debates to people who actually take these events a little more seriously and are prepared to enter into slightly more intellectual and informed debate...!!!!

I don't suffer fools lightly either but I've had to make an exception for you...!!!!

[arista]

The Voting in Crimea has started
its being watched by the World.



[Crimea Referendum Strains East-West Relations]

http://news.sky.com/story/1226660/cr...west-relations