[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jet

Not you presuming to know what the Queen really feels....

Coming from the guy who thinks he knows the inner workings of Prince Harry's mind from reading Ok Magazine and the odd article in the Daily Mail.

[joeysteele]

The Queen however is Harry's Grandmother.
Also there's no presumption on the part of anyone as to the Queen.
As it's clear she respected their wishes and request, she has likely talked to them, particularly Prince Harry.
Working out the withdrawal of his fully active Royal role.

The Queen clearly, even if disappointed, obviously cares for them and respects their wishes.
Particularly for their child too, the Queen's great Grandson.

This Monarch has been through many difficult events during this long reign.
I would neither profess to know what the Queen really feels as none, yes NONE of us can really know that.

However I'd dare stick my neck out and say,no way would the Queen be happy at this media and social media constant negativity towards Prince Harry and Meghan.

I'd dare bet, that would distress the Queen much more than Prince Harry and Meghan looking to an alternative life for them and their child.

None of us are related to Prince Harry.
The Queen is.
As Ammi has said Her Majesty wishes them well, also helped devise the plans for stepping out of active Royal duties.
Also the Queen will always be Harry's Grandmother and he'll I'm sure always have his Grandmother's deep affection.

I have to add, which I maybe shouldn't.
Ammi never presumes how others feel, even moreso anyone Ammi doesn't know personally.
Just because she can look at things from all sides, isn't a negative.
That's one of the strongest positives anyone can have.
Its a positive I've wished I had many times.

[bots]

the queen didn't give a toss about her own sisters happiness, so I don't think we can assume that she cares about anything else. She certainly showed no affection toward Diana ... at any time

[jet]

We know that the Queen can't tolerate the families dirty linen being washed in public - and Harry and Meghan have just done that in 'Finding Freedom'.

[jet]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the queen didn't give a toss about her own sisters happiness, so I don't think we can assume that she cares about anything else. She certainly showed no affection toward Diana ... at any time

Yes, Diana was only 19 and left floundering when she joined the family, who were heavily criticised for not treating her well. Which is why, by all accounts special efforts were made with Meghan to help her fit in and feel welcome, especially by the Queen. That was thrown back in her face...

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by jet

Yes, Diana was only 19 and left floundering when she joined the family, who were heavily criticised for not treating her well. Which is why, by all accounts special efforts were made with Meghan to help her fit in and feel welcome, especially by the Queen. That was thrown back in her face...

Diana was Harry's mother, I wouldn't blame him if he had some deep rooted resentment for the "family" from the way his mother was abandoned. Whether they went above and beyond to make Meghan welcome will never bring harry his mother back, nor make up for the pain he felt since then. He may have limited empathy now....I couldn't blame him for that.

[jet]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Diana was Harry's mother, I wouldn't blame him if he had some deep rooted resentment for the "family" from the way his mother was abandoned. Whether they went above and beyond to make Meghan welcome will never bring harry his mother back, nor make up for the pain he felt since then. He may have limited empathy now....I couldn't blame him for that.

It was heartbreaking for the boys. William lost his mother too, but he doesn't go on about it and certainly wouldn't talk about it to a load of bankers for big bucks, like Harry did.
In the past, Harry has said how his brother was his 'stay' and his 'saviour' in all the years after she died, now he is calling him a snob because he simply said to take more time to get to know Meghan. Whatever went on, the worse thing to come out of the marriage was the two brothers relationship, once so close, is now in tatters.

[arista]

She speaks, at last

[jet]

Originally Posted by arista

She speaks, at last

The attention grabber back again. Has one of the Royals got an important engagement today?

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by jet

The attention grabber back again. Has one of the Royals got an important engagement today?

indeed, i thought she wanted to live a more quiet life and yet here she appears again

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

indeed, i thought she wanted to live a more quiet life and yet here she appears again

indeed Nicky

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Cherie

indeed Nicky

i mean i do not hate Meghan (not at all) but she literally does herself no favors here

and lol as a dutchman i know controversy in royal family, because of our current king Willem-Alexander, back in 2002 his wedding with Maxima Zorreguieta (yes daughter of a war criminal Jorge Zorreguieta) that public response towards her was also mainly negative at first, but after a while, and especially now public overall quite likes her with just a few moans left here and there in the media

my point is you can see the contrast with a Maxima or a Meghan, and a Maxima is from a very much more horrible, controversial family, Jorge Zorreguieta contributed to several genocides back in those times when argentina was in times of war, corruption

[Tom4784]

You can't really say you're not being aggressive and then accuse someone else of being holier-than-thou in the same breath.