[Nicky91]

literal delusion at its finest

[bots]

which ever way you roll it, if not for covid, trump would have walked it, and what that says to me is that the vast majority of american people are quite happy having someone with the personality of Trump as the commander in chief. There is a much bigger issue with America here than Trump

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

which ever way you roll it, if not for covid, trump would have walked it, and what that says to me is that the vast majority of american people are quite happy having someone with the personality of Trump as the commander in chief. There is a much bigger issue with America here than Trump

...I think that’s quite simplifying, though...the problem is...(...and it’s what we’ve experienced here...)...is that there is an absence of contenders, as it were...which quite a bit, takes away that element of ‘voting for’ as in positive voting...rather than ‘vote Biden because he’s not Trump’../..negative voting...and we’ve struggled with a strong and popular Labour leader as well to contend with Conservative leadership...so we know how layered it is...

[Ammi]

...I also think that if someone like Biden who is so not ideal either and nowhere near being...can even come close to the present President and it not be an existing office landslide etc...that just shows, whichever way I flip it......how absolutely rubbish Trump is and how much the US people are despaired atm...

[arista]

[Captain.Remy]

Well, lightning never strikes twice in the same place for no reason.
It surprised everyone in 2016. But if the americans elect Trump today, then it's for a reason and obviously they seem happy to have him as President despite whatever he did/does/says/said that looks tragic.

[Nicky91]

hypocrite latino's, that Trump was trying to build a wall, and get all of you deported so why vote for him

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its about the economy

not trump, what he says, tweets or what idealistic young people say on social media

its not about black, its not about white, its about GREEN

economy

$

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Its about the economy

not trump, what he says, tweets or what idealistic young people say on social media

its not about black, its not about white, its about GREEN

economy

$

Based on some of the random interviews I saw when watching last night, I agree. An awful lot of people aged around 28 - 40 clearly indicating that they dislike Trump as a person but vote Red for economic reasons. As soon as I saw a fairly articulate young adult basically say "I hate Trump but for financial reasons I can't vote Democrat" it put a massive question mark on the whole election, and that was quite early on.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Based on some of the random interviews I saw when watching last night, I agree. An awful lot of people aged around 28 - 40 clearly indicating that they dislike Trump as a person but vote Red for economic reasons. As soon as I saw a fairly articulate young adult basically say "I hate Trump but for financial reasons I can't vote Democrat" it put a massive question mark on the whole election, and that was quite early on.

ah the super rich scared they must pay extra taxes when democrats win

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

ah the super rich scared they must pay extra taxes when democrats win

Middle income professionals Nicky - there aren't enough "super rich" people to make a dent.

[user104658]

I cant see a Biden win scenario at this point, I'm calling it. She's ded.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I cant see a Biden win scenario at this point, I'm calling it. She's ded.

it's close and it really shouldn't be .... it is what it is

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

of course grandpa biden needs to move into retirement home

no way he can win, since Trump has all the youth supporting him

Stop with the ageist bull****. Trump is literally only 3 years younger.

[Vanessa]

Yeah, they're both in their 70s.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Stop with the ageist bull****. Trump is literally only 3 years younger.

Trump acts like he's younger though, also ignoring the fact he's also in risk group for covid, not taken any precautions with distancing at his campaign rally's while Biden did

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Trump acts like he's younger though, also ignoring the fact he's also in risk group for covid, not taken any precautions with distancing at his campaign rally's while Biden did

Yes about 4 or 5

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Trump acts like he's younger though, also ignoring the fact he's also in risk group for covid, not taken any precautions with distancing at his campaign rally's while Biden did

Well that's a sign of stupidity and arrogance rather than youthfulness

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Trump acts like he's younger though, also ignoring the fact he's also in risk group for covid, not taken any precautions with distancing at his campaign rally's while Biden did

He's not looking well right now tbh, neither of them are, a US presidential election race beats the **** out of people 20 years younger so...

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Trump acts like he's younger though, also ignoring the fact he's also in risk group for covid, not taken any precautions with distancing at his campaign rally's while Biden did

Yes like a toddler.

Both are in their 70's and actually Biden is clearly in better physical health than Trump.

[Elliot]

Had Bernie been the candidate, I don’t think this would be as close as it is, he probably would’ve won

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Elliot

Had Bernie been the candidate, I don’t think this would be as close as it is, he probably would’ve won

He would not. If anything, they needed a square-jawed economy-focussed Purple Democrat who would openly denounce (what is seen as) heavy social justice activism. Sanders would have been fleeced in the states that are currently knife-edge.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Elliot

Had Bernie been the candidate, I don’t think this would be as close as it is, he probably would’ve won

Yeah I liked Bernie and this is what I keep wondering , I really wish Bernie was in the race . This would of been his last chance too

[user104658]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Yeah I liked Bernie and this is what I keep wondering , I really wish Bernie was in the race . This would of been his last chance too

Bernie is too left for the current US, he simply couldn't win. Maybe in a few decades time. I think the US *is* slowly beginning to tire of the healthcare situation and in general will soon want some form of affordable or universal healthcare - dirty dirty socialism!

I reckon an AOC presidency is possible at some point if she shifts slightly to the right/pragmastism over time (likely).

But not now.

[Elliot]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Bernie is too left for the current US, he simply couldn't win. Maybe in a few decades time. I think the US *is* slowly beginning to tire of the healthcare situation and in general will soon want some form of affordable or universal healthcare - dirty dirty socialism!

I reckon an AOC presidency is possible at some point if she shifts slightly to the right/pragmastism over time (likely).

But not now.

She said she has plans for a run when shes old enough to legally apply as a candidate. I can see her doing really well