[The Slim Reaper]

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Blaming the platforms for the actions of the users is just the same childishness that Alf pulled when he tried to make out the problem was people holding racists accountable for their own actions.

/snip

England star Saka urges social media platforms to do better



In a post on his official Twitter account on Thursday, the teenager wrote: “To
the social media platforms Instagram, Twitter and Facebook, I don’t want any
child or adult to have to receive the hateful and hurtful messages that me,
Marcus and Jadon have received this week.

“I knew instantly the kind of hate that I was about to receive, and that is a
sad reality that your powerful platforms are not doing enough to stop these
messages.

https://www.football365.com/news/eng...orms-do-better



get them telt son

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

England star Saka urges social media platforms to do better



In a post on his official Twitter account on Thursday, the teenager wrote: “To
the social media platforms Instagram, Twitter and Facebook, I don’t want any
child or adult to have to receive the hateful and hurtful messages that me,
Marcus and Jadon have received this week.

“I knew instantly the kind of hate that I was about to receive, and that is a
sad reality that your powerful platforms are not doing enough to stop these
messages.

https://www.football365.com/news/eng...orms-do-better



get them telt son

[The Slim Reaper]

Not the woke left and consequence-free speech advocates, trying to cancel people off social media?

Well...

[rusticgal]

Good for him…

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Not the woke left and consequence-free speech advocates, trying to cancel people off social media?

Well...

not nice having ago at a 19-year-old kid

[Tom4784]

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[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

There's a difference between blaming a social media platform for the actions of racists in order to absolve them of blame (which Alf and others were doing) and you making out that I'm saying it's not the platform's problem to police it's users.

I've said the former, you've tried to shove the latter down my throat in order to force a gotcha that doesn't even work in the correct context since that is an opinion, not a fact or anything that disproves what I said.

sure

[Ashley.]

I hope they take the sickening reactions from British football fans this year into account when they are deciding whether or not the UK should host the World Cup in 2030. I have never been so ashamed and disappointed.

[MTVN]

I too hope they take into account our diversity, our passionate support, our teams anti-racism stance and the huge shows of support to Marcus Rashford et al when they are deciding who should host the World Cup

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

I hope they take the sickening reactions from British football fans this year into account when they are deciding whether or not the UK should host t
he World Cup in 2030. I have never been so ashamed and disappointed.

oh

British football fans?

Do enlighten us specifically what you mean?

Specifically Wales, Scotland and NI

?

[Tom4784]

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[Cherie]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I too hope they take into account our diversity, our passionate support, our teams anti-racism stance and the huge shows of support to Marcus Rashford et al when they are deciding who should host the World Cup

[Tom4784]

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[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I too hope they take into account our diversity, our passionate support, our teams anti-racism stance and the huge shows of support to Marcus Rashford et al when they are deciding who should host the World Cup

Seems like a very carefully trodden path of words there, mate.

Passionate support separate from the reason Rashford needed support at all? Our diversity is such a big factor, that they got booed before every match for attempting to strengthen that diversity?

The teams anti-racist stance.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I too hope they take into account our diversity, our passionate support, our teams anti-racism stance and the huge shows of support to Marcus Rashford et al when they are deciding who should host the World Cup

Indeed.

Unlike the misguided Players a major study has proven the UK is the least racist nation on God's earth

The GBP should rightly be appluaded. No wonder economic migrants love this nation

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Indeed.

Unlike the misguided Players a major study has proven the UK is the least racist nation on God's earth

The GBP should rightly be appluaded. No wonder economic migrants love this nation

I don't want to speak for MTVN, but you purposefully criticised something he praised about the team, and then said "indeed" as though you agreed with him.

[Tom4784]

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[MTVN]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Seems like a very carefully trodden path of words there, mate.

Passionate support separate from the reason Rashford needed support at all? Our diversity is such a big factor, that they got booed before every match for attempting to strengthen that diversity?

The teams anti-racist stance.

I think overall we should certainly be proud of our teams diversity and that of our nation which goes beyond almost every other country in Europe

That's not to say we are above criticism and in general I try and shy away from lecturing or belittling other countries for their issues with racism because I know the UK has it too and its hypocritical to pretend otherwise. But the England football team is overwhelmingly a positive force in fighting racism and so are most of its backers. To suggest it should count against our World Cup bid when you see which other countries have hosted the last few major tournaments is surely pretty out of touch

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I think overall we should certainly be proud of our teams diversity and that of our nation which goes beyond almost every other country in Europe

That's not to say we are above criticism and in general I try and shy away from lecturing or belittling other countries for their issues with racism because I know the UK has it too and its hypocritical to pretend otherwise. But the England football team is overwhelmingly a positive force in fighting racism and so are most of its backers. To suggest it should count against our World Cup bid when you see which other countries have hosted the last few major tournaments is surely pretty out of touch

That's fairer. I completely agree about the actual team, and even venturing off into further issues like Henderson (and I think a couple of others did too) wearing rainbow laces, which in a male dominated and historically homophonic sport like footie is still a risk, but having the confidence in a tolerant group of young people around you sort of takes away the fear.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I think overall we should certainly be proud of our teams diversity and that of our nation which goes beyond almost every other country in Europe

That's not to say we are above criticism and in general I try and shy away from lecturing or belittling other countries for their issues with racism because I know the UK has it too and its hypocritical to pretend otherwise. But the England football team is overwhelmingly a positive force in fighting racism and so are most of its backers. To suggest it should count against our World Cup bid when you see which other countries have hosted the last few major tournaments is surely pretty out of touch

Of course we should be proud but the team has been diverse for almost 40years yet the black players are still being racially abused by the fans who claim to support them. I dont think there is much to be proud of in that TBH.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

That's fairer. I completely agree about the actual team, and even venturing off into further issues like Henderson (and I think a couple of others did too) wearing rainbow laces, which in a male dominated and historically homophonic sport like footie is still a risk, but having the confidence in a tolerant group of young people around you sort of takes away the fear.

Kane wore a rainbow armband against Germany, we shouldn’t punish the team or indeed the decent fans for a small minority of twats

[Tom4784]

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[LeatherTrumpet]

The team failed, nothing to be proud of. Done by Italians who wanted it more with a better manager who ilt more. The aim was to win.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Of course we should be proud but the team has been diverse for almost 40years yet the black players are still being racially abused by the fans who claim to support them. I dont think there is much to be proud of in that TBH.

Stamping out racism is an ongoing thing and its a societal problem not just a football one but its something there has been a lot of progress in the last few decades hasn't there? Maybe its not for me to say but I've definitely noticed a shift in public attitudes just in my own lifetime and as depressing as the racism is I also don't think I've seen more anti-racism activism in any other country than I've seen in English football in the last twelve months