[Ammi]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I always do enjoy it Ammi.
I've got a good number of family staying with me for it.
My late Mum.loved Eurovision and it was like a party thing in our home for it

We ALL love Olly's Dizzy.
However we love the Eurovision night too seeing ALL the performers.
Because as the half hour programme on Olly last night showed which I and Zizu watched.
It highlighted the stress and hard work over months to prepare for the contest itself.

It gave a good insight to him as the decent guy he is too and his life.

Thank you Ammi and I hope you have a good day.

…you most definitely keep that spirit and vibe going for your mum, Joey……

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Zizu

He will probably do extremely well then if you don’t like him




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well said Zizu.
Here's hoping he could do okay.

Although the UK is NEVER now anywhere near being a leading favourite in Eurovision generally or in the betting particularly, because of the past issues of political not liking of the UK image now internationally.

Olly will give his all and do his best, as indeed all the performers on the night will.
No one can do more than that.
So good luck to them all.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Zizu

He will probably do extremely well then if you don’t like him




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It's a pity that programme on his road to Eurovision hadn't been longer Zizu

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…you most definitely keep that spirit and vibe going for your mum, Joey……

Oh I will Ammi

Work and all else has stopped for me in Eurovision week.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Oh I will Ammi

Work and all else has stopped for me in Eurovision week.

I don't work during the week

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I don't work during the week

Great stuff
Enjoy your week and Eurovision Vanessa.

[Gusto Brunt]

Just my opinion, but I think Olly is a silly choice.

He'll probably finish last.

No change there though.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

Just my opinion, but I think Olly is a silly choice.

He'll probably finish last.

No change there though.

In a perfect world I would say he’s the PERFECT choice as he’s loved the Eurovision
Song contest all his life …

Sadly due to politics and general pettiness his night will probably end in dreadful sadness.


The poor guy suffers dreadfully from severe depression and has been medicated for around 15 years plus he suffers from extreme anxiety so he’s nauseous before each performance..


I read that after each concert he’s often to be found in the bathroom ( throwing up ) and has to be dragged back on stage for the encore !!

Now he’s intelligent enough to have known how this is all gonna play out so he deserves special praise for putting himself through this ordeal.


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[Nicky91]

next year i'll take responsibility of the UK entry





Nathan Evans - The Sea of Miracles (Oh Ay Oh)

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Yes !

One looked to have nearly naked singer /dancers !!

Plus one half naked female sang “ slight touch “ as she slowly slid her hand over her nether region !!

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Damn! I missed that part.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Yes Mock that is what the word simulated means

I meant that there wasn't even simulated humping going on, onstage.

Unlike Madonna's rimming incident in Brazil for example, where that imo went further than what Olly is doing on Eurovision.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Slovenia had a mermaid theme, of course there had to be nudity


they played that very well tbh, this coming from a person who has recently the series Siren in mind



Ireland also kinda a twisted sexual thing going on with their blue demon dancer, which was like a horror film to me, so wholesome i'm thinking about voting for them on saturday tbh

I'm not complaining about Slovenia's routine, personally I got a fair bit out of that routine.

But it isn't fair that Olly is getting pulled up for a sexual routine by some people, yet Slovenia is getting a free pass.

Imo I support both acts not being overly sanitised in that particular area.

And Ireland I'm with you on Nicky, that's a fascinating performance imo.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

next year i'll take responsibility of the UK entry





Nathan Evans - The Sea of Miracles (Oh Ay Oh)

Lyrics

Oh Ay Oh
Oh Ay Oh

Here We Are, Once a almighty superpower force to be reckoned with
now we feel, we feel lost, but is there hope in the sea of miracles
for our comeback at many mirrorballs

the sea of miracles (Yeah Baby)
many wonders, many mirrorballs

Oh Ay Oh
Oh Ay Oh (Oh Oh)

we are sorry for any crimes against europe
we were never bigger than yourope

now we feel, we feel lost, let there be hope in the sea of miracles
praying for miracles, miracles

the sea of miracles (Oh Baby)
many wonders, many mirrorballs

my love, my sea of miracles
Oh Ay Oh

we are just an island, surrounded by the sea of miracles
many wonders, many miracles, mirrorballs

Oh Ay Oh
Oh Ay Oh

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Miraclesssssss in the SEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

.

i'd say this has potential with a divine instrumental beat

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zizu

In a perfect world I would say he’s the PERFECT choice as he’s loved the Eurovision
Song contest all his life …

Sadly due to politics and general pettiness his night will probably end in dreadful sadness.


The poor guy suffers dreadfully from severe depression and has been medicated for around 15 years plus he suffers from extreme anxiety so he’s nauseous before each performance..


I read that after each concert he’s often to be found in the bathroom ( throwing up ) and has to be dragged back on stage for the encore !!

Now he’s intelligent enough to have known how this is all gonna play out so he deserves special praise for putting himself through this ordeal.


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Hopefully he has been prepared for the worst outcome, so that he can be pleasantly surprised if he can achieve higher than expected.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Hopefully he has been prepared for the worst outcome, so that he can be pleasantly surprised if he can achieve higher than expected.

Yeah he’s a clever guy and a Eurovision obsessive so he will know that the song or the singer has little bearing on the outcome


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Yeah he’s a clever guy and a Eurovision obsessive so he will know that the song or the singer has little bearing on the outcome


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[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Hopefully he has been prepared for the worst outcome, so that he can be pleasantly surprised if he can achieve higher than expected.

Mock do you honestly think Olly cares about winning, he just wants to be shocking and get attention.

I must say ... he's painfully boring & predictable with the usual porno sexual behaviour. He's playing the Sam Smith Lil Nas game. But publicity bad or good is still an accomplishment in Olly's book no doubt .

As for other comments mentioning if it would be different with women & topless men, people have criticised over sexualised female performers aswell .

I'm pretty sure Madonna gets called out , aswell as people like
Ice Spice etc.

People are irritated & tired by how the music industry pushes the whole ' sex sells' theme, when surely it should be more on talent & their merit.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Mock do you honestly think Olly cares about winning, he just wants to be shocking and get attention.

I must say ... he's painfully boring & predictable with the usual porno sexual behaviour. He's playing the Sam Smith Lil Nas game. But publicity bad or good is still an accomplishment in Olly's book no doubt .

As for other comments mentioning if it would be different with women & topless men, people have criticised over sexualised female performers aswell .

I'm pretty sure Madonna gets called out , aswell as people like
Ice Spice etc.

People are irritated & tired by how the music industry pushes the whole ' sex sells' theme, when surely it should be more on talent & their merit.

Maybe he is playing on shock tactics, I personally don't really care either way if he is or isn't tbh.

At least we're not sending him out with bare bones staging, like we've done to some of our entries in other years.

Plus we have all been complaining about the Entertainment Industry being overly sanitised/the Mary Whitehouse era/too soft in it's presentation, yet Eurovision this year does have the UK and Ireland (two countries that I never thought that I'd ever say this about) are in different ways trying to bring a bit of an edge to their performances, and we've got some people calling them out for it.

And personally I hope that Slovenia keep avoiding detection from the masses on this front tbh, as imo I am sick to death of what I personally call the CBBC era of the Entertainment Industry.

Personally the UK, Ireland, nor Slovenia are my number 1 choice out of this year's Eurovision songs, but let's celebrate sexuality and Satanic performances again.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Mock do you honestly think Olly cares about winning, he just wants to be shocking and get attention.

I must say ... he's painfully boring & predictable with the usual porno sexual behaviour. He's playing the Sam Smith Lil Nas game. But publicity bad or good is still an accomplishment in Olly's book no doubt .

As for other comments mentioning if it would be different with women & topless men, people have criticised over sexualised female performers aswell .


People are irritated & tired by how the music industry pushes the whole ' sex sells' theme, when surely it should be more on talent & their merit.

Well I have watched most of his tv performances and interviews ( and his documentary) and I don’t recognise him from your description of him . I feel that you simply don’t know or understand him at all


I do think that this year is more sexually suggestive than ever before and the vast majority of the male prancers ( sorry dancers) were overtly feminine in looks and movements.



I never thought I’d see a three hour program where Olly looks like a docker in comparison to the others


Fantastic interview below !

https://youtu.be/RwBKaXMmsq4?si=IqMn1EAqJ8E9-NYV


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[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Maybe he is playing on shock tactics, I personally don't really care either way if he is or isn't tbh.

At least we're not sending him out with bare bones staging, like we've done to some of our entries in other years.

Plus we have all been complaining about the Entertainment Industry being overly sanitised/the Mary Whitehouse era/too soft in it's presentation, yet Eurovision this year does have the UK and Ireland (two countries that I never thought that I'd ever say this about) are in different ways trying to bring a bit of an edge to their performances, and we've got some people calling them out for it.

And personally I hope that Slovenia keep avoiding detection from the masses on this front tbh, as imo I am sick to death of what I personally call the CBBC era of the Entertainment Industry.

Personally the UK, Ireland, nor Slovenia are my number 1 choice out of this year's Eurovision songs, but let's celebrate sexuality and Satanic performances again.

I 100% UNSURPRISINGLY agree with every word you've said there.
I said earlier that most of the entries this year was about more who had the wildest and out of the ordinary staging .
Nothing wrong with that at all .
It's how the ESC has evolved from them all just standing there in frontbof a microphone.

Maybe from the moaning of some I've seen in the media, it's more sbout Olly's sexuality.that criticism of him and his staging becomes morev evident.

Thankfully I don't consider myself a prude or a homophobe.
I think we've still some way to go on that, even in the UK.

I like loads of the entries this year.
The wild staging adds to the drama and performance of the songs too.

Ireland could be a surprise actually this year.
It's dark and right in your face with its staging.

There are so many songs of the same beat, rock type this year that it could be one that's way out the ordinary that wins.

I'll.just enjoy the whole thing and not moan about any kind of harmless suggestive content.
Which was in a fair few.
However Olly because it involves all men.
Gets the criticism as you point out.
That begs the question why as to only him and his staging which was devised by the team appointed to Eurovision not just by himself.

Yes though, you've made a really strong post here Mock.
Why people just cannot be more accepting I don't know.
Good luck to Olly and all of them.
Goodness knows what the voting will end up being on the night.

That's always more mystified me as to the voting in Eurovision ,than a few minutes of harmless staging around the entries.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I 100% UNSURPRISINGLY agree with every word you've said there.
I said earlier that most of the entries this year was about more who had the wildest and out of the ordinary staging .
Nothing wrong with that at all .
It's how the ESC has evolved from them all just standing there in frontbof a microphone.

Maybe from the moaning of some I've seen in the media, it's more sbout Olly's sexuality.that criticism of him and his staging becomes morev evident.

Thankfully I don't consider myself a prude or a homophobe.
I think we've still some way to go on that, even in the UK.

I like loads of the entries this year.
The wild staging adds to the drama and performance of the songs too.

Ireland could be a surprise actually this year.
It's dark and right in your face with its staging.

There are so many songs of the same beat, rock type this year that it could be one that's way out the ordinary that wins.

I'll.just enjoy the whole thing and not moan about any kind of harmless suggestive content.
Which was in a fair few.
However Olly because it involves all men.
Gets the criticism as you point out.
That begs the question why as to only him and his staging which was devised by the team appointed to Eurovision not just by himself.

Yes though, you've made a really strong post here Mock.
Why people just cannot be more accepting I don't know.
Good luck to Olly and all of them.
Goodness knows what the voting will end up being on the night.

That's always more mystified me as to the voting in Eurovision ,than a few minutes of harmless staging around the entries.

You make an intriguing point there ..

I was wondering why they didn’t choose a mix of a male / female dancers just to take the pressure off .. having just female dancers would also have been interesting ..


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Unibet has the UK at 200/1 if anyone wants to wager a bet

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Unibet has the UK at 200/1 if anyone wants to wager a bet

You may as well bet on the next WWE ( fake wrestling ) competition-both are completely pointless .


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[Vanessa]

The UK needs to send a credible artist.
As much as I like Olly I don't think the song and his voice are as good as the others.
The uK has plenty of singing talent. But they never go to Eurovision.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

The UK needs to send a credible artist.
As much as I like Olly I don't think the song and his voice are as good as the others.
The uK has plenty of singing talent. But they never go to Eurovision.

Because none of them would want to now Vanessa.
Sadly.

There's always been though where top singers all through wouldn't either enter it.
From the 60s and up to now.
Wouldn't go near it with a bargepole.