[Alf]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I’m amazed she ever saw daylight again !!


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Why? She was just a protester. Has there been incidents in Putin's Russia were protesters have never seen daylight again, to make you think that?

I'm not sure it's like the UK where journalists like Julian Assange are locked up and never get to see daylight for the crime of doing journalism.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Alf

Why? She was just a protester. Has there been incidents in Putin's Russia were protesters have never seen daylight again, to make you think that?

I'm not sure it's like the UK where journalists like Julian Assange are locked up and never get to see daylight for the crime of doing journalism.

DUSSELDORF, Germany
Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday signed a bill introducing a prison sentence of up to 15 years for those spreading information that goes against the Russian government’s narrative on the war in Ukraine.

The bill criminalizing the intentional spreading of what Russia deems to be “fake” reports about the war was quickly rubber-stamped by both houses of the Kremlin-controlled parliament earlier in the day.

Russian authorities have repeatedly decried reports of Russian military setbacks or civilian deaths in Ukraine as “fake” news. State media outlets refer to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine as a “special military operation” rather than a “war” or an “invasion.”

Vyacheslav Volodin, the speaker of the lower house of Russian parliament, said the new measure "will force those who lied and made statements discrediting our armed forces to bear very grave punishment.”

“I want everyone to understand, and for society to understand, that we are doing this to protect our soldiers and officers, and to protect the truth,” he added.

The new law envisages sentences of up to three years or fines for spreading what authorities deem to be false news about the military, but the maximum punishment rises to 15 years for cases deemed to have led to “severe consequences.”

Also Friday, the state communications watchdog, Roskomnadzor, blocked Facebook and five foreign media organizations based abroad which publish news in Russian in a sweeping action to establish even tighter controls over the information about the Russian invasion of Ukraine reaching ordinary Russians.

Roskomnadzor, blocked Facebook, citing its alleged “discrimination” of the Russian media and state information resources. The agency said in a statement that the restrictions introduced by Facebook owner Meta on the Russian news channel RT and other state-controlled media violate the Russian law.

Nick Clegg, Meta’s president of global affairs, said in a tweet in response to Russia’s action that “millions of ordinary Russians will find themselves cut off from reliable information, deprived of their everyday ways of connecting with family and friends and silenced from speaking out.”

“We will continue to do everything we can to restore our services so they remain available to people to safely and securely express themselves and organize for action,” Clegg added.

The Russian media blocks also affected five foreign media organizations based abroad which publish news in Russian. They included the BBC, the U.S. government-funded Voice of America and Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, German broadcaster Deutsche Welle and Latvia-based website Meduza. Together, they are among the most influential and often critical foreign media publishing in Russian.

[Alf]

Must be true then.

[arista]

8PM Ch4HD Live Debate Ukraine

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SkyNews Text:
[A Volodymyr Zelenskyy lookalike
managed to escape Ukraine - thanks to the
help from a Kim Jong Un and Vladimir Putin lookalike,]

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Mondays Front Page:

[arista]

A British Reporter for CNN HD
went to Odessa, Nicky Paton Walsh.

Had to show his press card
to a jumpy young Ukraine patrol.



Newsnight BBC2HD
starts in Finland
who are now wanting to join NATO.
Their border is with Russia.



In Ukraine Zelenskyy
has stated he will NOT join NATO
thats a Russian demand.

[UserSince2005]

Don’t do a deal with the devil zelensky, your winning this.

[Beso]

So I wasnt allowed my granny over for a coffee a few months ago, but now it's ok to take in entire families from another country..

[bots]

the government do what the people want, and people seem to want to take in refugees

[Alf]

The real question of the day is why have certain individuals been put on a sanction list by Putin.

That's a question your MSM won't be asking.

[bots]

i can only speak for myself, but i don't give a crap who is on putins sanction list

[Alf]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i can only speak for myself, but i don't give a crap who is on putins sanction list

What do you give a crap about?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the government do what the people want, and people seem to want to take in refugees

I couldn't give a crap.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by arista

A British Reporter for CNN HD
went to Odessa, Nicky Paton Walsh.

Had to show his press card
to a jumpy young Ukraine patrol.



Newsnight BBC2HD
starts in Finland
who are now wanting to join NATO.
Their border is with Russia.



In Ukraine Zelenskyy
has stated he will NOT join NATO
thats a Russian demand.

I don't give a crap.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Alf

I don't give a crap.

Thats your right.

[Alf]

Why Hilary Clinton but not Bill?

Why Hunter Biden? He's not even a politician.

Why not Trump or Obama?

Why Trudeau?


Any Colombo's or Poirot's or Miss Marple's out there who can solve this?

[Kizzy]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-sergei-lavrov

What an outcome, neutrality in this instance seems the best option for Ukraine. They won't succumb to Russia but neither can they rely on the west to fully accept them, I think that was what the issue was with the no fly zone. I was Zelenskys way of saying protect us with this and Ukraine will join NATO and that didn't happen.
With the tension between east and west so great at the moment some neutral space is needed.

I really hope these peace discussions are able to end this soon.

[bots]

Zalinski has been very clever politically, nato wont accept anything but stable countries because of article 5, so ukraine has no chance of joining nato. Same with the eu actually, i would be surprised if they get access there either. The only reason ukraine has been able to defend itself is because of the help and training nato gave it. He knew nato's position but he can now use it as a bargaining chip with putin so thats cool

Ukraine was supposed to be a neutral zone, but politically they see themselves as europeans which hasnt helped reduce tensions for sure.

If ukraine come out of this with a democracy intact and holding on to the majority of their land it will be a good result. Crimea and the russian leaning areas are always going to be russian so ukraine would be best to accept that and let them go

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Alf

Why Hilary Clinton but not Bill?

Why Hunter Biden? He's not even a politician.

Why not Trump or Obama?

Why Trudeau?


Any Colombo's or Poirot's or Miss Marple's out there who can solve this?

I mean the obvious answer there is that these 3 are all ex-US-presidents. I couldn't tell you WHY he hasn't listed any ex-US-presidents but it would at least explain the question of "Why Hilary but not Bill". If Trump and Obama aren't on there it makes sense that Bill Clinton isn't either.