[sarahBE]

now freddie, ok has over reacted everyone hates him come on guys lisa is the real bully here

[Kazanne]

Well those of us that watch it KNOW how Freddie was bullied, it seems some people are suffering with amnesia

[DrTheKay]

Thats what I say Sarah. Lisa is a B*TCH ALL the time, Freddie snaps ONCE even though hes gone through crap, like being picked on and being led on by Bea.

Even then I LOVE Freddie for what he did, hes not really serious for acting that way

Think about it He acted like a child in order to make another child listen, that child being Lisa

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by kazanne
Well those of us that watch it KNOW how Freddie was bullied, it seems some people are suffering with amnesia

Short memories some people...when someone stands up to someone who bullied them, they are the bad ones...ok then...

[BBmassive]

Utter BS , did she laugh in his face ? NO she didnt ,,,well its cost him bb10 and IM laughing now :thum bs2::la ugh2:

[aremjay]

I agree - and I think it was more than "picking" IMO - they were hate-filled attacks. Also, do you remember when she kept getting Freddies name wrong in the diary room - calling him "****wit" and "dickhead" etc. I've wanted Lisa out since then and nothing she does now will change my mind.

[DrTheKay]

BBMassive, your -2 karma tells us what an idiot you are. Go get your benefit check we earned for you, child.

['Conor]

yes and i have hated her ever since

[bbisfun]

Some people are deluded, how anyone can try and justify Freddie’s behaviour is mind boggling to me...............then again these are probably the same people that think Marcus is great

[Vicky.]

Originally posted by BBmassive
Utter BS , did she laugh in his face ? NO she didnt ,,,well its cost him bb10 and IM laughing now :thum bs2::la ugh2:

No, she poked him in the face though, and was childish enough to sing when he was trying to speak to her. Much worse IMO

[rayheartbliss]

there was nooo way that, that was standing up!

i mean hes been my fave for weeks...so i've not forgotten the whole lisa thing

but if freddie is a decent guy that i thought he was
he would have taken the highroad.

doing the same thing as someone did to you makes you as bad as them.

[persephone]

Lisa had a problem with Freddie cos he was patronising towards her

[rayheartbliss]

Originally posted by bbisfun
Some people are deluded, how anyone can try and justify Freddie’s behaviour is mind boggling to me...............then again these are probably the same people that think Marcus is great

lmafo!

exatcly!!!!!!!!

and they call us deluded just cuz we dont support creatures like them.

[shash]

Lisa gave him far worse in the past, and didn't like this at all ... however, Freddie was fighting at her level here and can make his points far more intelligently than this. But I judge them over all the weeks and Freddie is a far nicer person than she is.

[aremjay]

Originally posted by VickyJ

No, she poked him in the face though, and was childish enough to sing when he was trying to speak to her. Much worse IMO

Also, when BB showed Lisa's nastiness on the HL it was CONSIDERABLY toned down. I think Lisa would have been slung out long ago if BB hadn't warned her at least twice.

[setanta]

You have to view this objectively on it's own merits and not be so blinkered becuz of the issues that arose earlier on in the show, because it's obviously distorting things for you right now. The guy acted like a total prat on tonights show.

What I had previously loved about Freddie was he civility and gentlemanly ways, and how he would never stoop to Lisa and her groups level of vitriol. He maintained his integrity in the process and gained my support.

However, after this spectacle he's damaged his chances, to the extent where I'm honestly not quite sure who he really is anymore. I mean, he condemned David publicly over absolutely nothing, ranting on about his own insane theories. That's unnacceptable behaviour and, as much as I loathe Lisa, she was entirely jusitified in defending her friend.

[shash]

just a little disappointed that he stooped to her level on this occasion but he has suffered worse and for longer. He could argue more intelligently than this though but maybe he's given up on that with Lisa. I judge them over weeks rather than minutes though and Freddie is a much nicer person than Lisa

[kisywisy]

you can't possibly justify what he's done. he wasn't standing up for himself or being defensive, he was in full on attack mode for NO reason. yes, lisa was horrible to him at the start, but that doesn't excuse the way he was going on. "ha ha bb hates you" so pathetic. he can hold an argument with resorting to this sort of behaviour. he is no better than lisa now

[chris1232]

Originally posted by sarahBE
now freddie, ok has over reacted everyone hates him come on guys lisa is the real bully here

Your So right! WELL DONE

[golden]

What I find funny is how ALL the hms picked on Freddie in the beginning...remember when he used all the eggs in the beginning & how most of the house hated him for that? When did Lisa take all the blame?
The hms who are friends with Freddie now only started hanging with him after he survived evivtion 3 or 4 times. Can't you see they will never hang with him outside the house?!

[Prole]

I don't think Freddie overreacted. I think all Lisa's previous nastiness came back to bite her on the a*se tonight and it was wonderful to watch Lisa's bitter, resentful face.

[rayheartbliss]

Originally posted by setanta
You have to view this objectively on it's own merits and not be so blinkered becuz of the issues that arose earlier on in the show, because it's obviously distorting things for you right now. The guy acted like a total prat on tonights show.

What I had previously loved about Freddie was he civility and gentlemanly ways, and how he would never stoop to Lisa and her groups level of vitriol. He maintained his integrity in the process and gained my support.

However, after this spectacle he's damaged his chances, to the extent where I'm honestly not quite sure who he really is anymore. I mean, he condemned David publicly over absolutely nothing, ranting on about his own insane theories. That's unnacceptable behaviour and, as much as I loathe Lisa, she was entirely jusitified in defending her friend.

exactly!
thats how i feel.

[kisywisy]

Originally posted by setanta
You have to view this objectively on it's own merits and not be so blinkered becuz of the issues that arose earlier on in the show, because it's obviously distorting things for you right now. The guy acted like a total prat on tonights show.

What I had previously loved about Freddie was he civility and gentlemanly ways, and how he would never stoop to Lisa and her groups level of vitriol. He maintained his integrity in the process and gained my support.

However, after this spectacle he's damaged his chances, to the extent where I'm honestly not quite sure who he really is anymore. I mean, he condemned David publicly over absolutely nothing, ranting on about his own insane theories. That's unnacceptable behaviour and, as much as I loathe Lisa, she was entirely jusitified in defending her friend.

she wasn't even just defending david, she was defending herself. he brought lisa into in by saying she had a gameplan and that she was gutted because it had failed. total load of tosh!! at the start i think she was influencing nominations, but she doesnt have anything like that sort of power now. the hm have decided who they want to go themselves. the other housemates can see through bea and freddie refuses to believe her nimination could be anything but tactical.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally posted by setanta
You have to view this objectively on it's own merits and not be so blinkered becuz of the issues that arose earlier on in the show, because it's obviously distorting thing for you right now. The guy acted like a total prat on tonights show.

What I have previously loved about Freddie was he civility and gentlemanly ways, and how he would never stoop to Lisa and her groups level of vitriol. He maintained his integrity in the process and gained my support.

However, after this spectacle he's damaged his chances, to the extent where I'm honestly not quite sure who he really is anymore. I mean, he condemned David publicly over absolutely nothing, ranting on about his own insane theories. That's unnacceptable behaviour and, as much as I loathe Lisa, she was entirely jusitified in defending her friend.

Totally agree with you.

I think Freddie really let himself down tonight, and taking Lisa out of the equation for a moment, he had no reason nor any right to accuse David of having a game plan by being friends with Lisa. David has done nothing wrong to Freddie at all, his only reason for attacking him seems to stem from dislike for Lisa (which is understandable) but also because Bea doesn't like him. Neither of these are valid reasons to verbally attack someone the way that Freddie did.

Also, two wrongs don't make a right. Freddie acted like a cocky, arrogant little child tonight, now fair enough he put up with an awful lot of nastiness early on in the show, but that was WEEKS ago, it seemed tonight that he is so supremely confident that he will be going nowhere, that he felt he was allowed to ridicule and torment two other HM's, and laugh in their face about them facing the vote. Because he feels now that whatever he does, the public will save him.

The Freddie of a few weeks ago wouldn't have done that, this is a new Freddie that's emerging now, and it's not a very pleasant one to watch, for me anyway.

Just to clarify, I'm not a Lisa or David fan so I'm looking at this from a neutral standpoint. If anything I've been something of a fan of Freddie's, I just feel he's let himself down somewhat by acting in the same way as Lisa did to him, albeit only for one night. It still didn't make him look good and I'm pretty disappointed in him.

[kisywisy]

Originally posted by chris1232

Your So right! WELL DONE

what has she done in the last few weeks?? nothing.

freddie, bea and marcus are the new team nasty.

you are also forgetting that they have singled david out. he had nothing to do with the treatment of freddie in the house at the start