[Dolphin-and-Whale]

She's not that bad. Some people take this gameshow too serious

[iamonfire]

I don't know about Lisa, I didn't like her from the begining, but with Bea coming in all my dislike got focused on her. Now Bea's gone, I've noticed I kinda like Lisa a little more, only a little though. Saying that, I only watch what BB show, I don't see any of the live feed, and as they've not showed her being nasty or anything recently, Its not suprising my oppinion of her has gone up.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Agreed Cappa. Its like saying someone with Aspergers for instance deserves to be picked on because they dont understand the social rules the same way as others! Its ridiculous. It might go in the ape kingdom but we are supposed to have evolved!

But the person with Asperger's who is out-of-sync socially needn't be a stuck-up douchebag purposefully annoying HMs, playing the victim role, using intelligence to make others look bad in arguments, etc. We've seen Bea do this on a much bigger level, too.

What is it this year with articulate, clever HMs? Revenge of the nerds?

[Beastie]

lisa should have been evicted weeks ago...

[Beastie]

who has aspergers?

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by bbfanatic
who has aspergers?

Noone Im just saying you cant use the argument that someone with a lack of social skills deserves to be treated badly

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004

But the person with Asperger's who is out-of-sync socially needn't be a stuck-up douchebag purposefully annoying HMs, playing the victim role, using intelligence to make others look bad in arguments, etc. We've seen Bea do this on a much bigger level, too.

What is it this year with articulate, clever HMs? Revenge of the nerds?

Being a stuck up douchebag is judgement made by some but not shared by everyone. He was never purposely annoying untill they singled him out. And He just gave them the rope to hang themselves...nothing wrong with that

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

Being a stuck up douchebag is judgement made by some but not shared by everyone. He was never purposely annoying untill they singled him out. And He just gave them the rope to hang themselves...nothing wrong with that

So you admit he actively annoyed them and kept doing so, and used his skills to make them look bad on camera?

He's not so innocent and inept then, like the Asperger's example.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004

So you admit he annoyed them and kept doing so, didn't try to integrate, and used his skills to make them look bad on camera?

He's not so innocent and inept then, like the Asperger's example.

I admit that he did after he'd already been singled out and picked on. Fairplay to him he didnt just lie down and take it!

[Nigeria_Bob]

It was Lisa, and her group that made the conscious decision to be annoyed.
People can choose to be annoyed or to be happy and jovial… some people
just like being annoyed because it's all they know.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
I admit that he did after he'd already been singled out and picked on. Fairplay to him he didnt just lie down and take it!

As opposed to sorting the problem out and trying to come to some agreement? Or chilling out, being less annoying and actually integrating?

Seems like he fell into a situation, and realised he could milk it and turn it into an advantage for him in terms of playing the victim. And he did.

Like I said, revenge of the nerds this year. Halfwit playing Lisa and making her look like she bullied him, and Bea tooling with David/others.

They only prey on the vulnerable, using their adeptness to turn scenarios in their favour. Well in Bea's case, it didn't work, clearly.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by Nigeria_Bob
It was Lisa, and her group that made the conscious decision to be annoyed.
People can choose to be annoyed or to be happy and jovial… some people
just like being annoyed because it's all they know.

Halfwit hasn't made 1 friend on BB this year. He goes clubbing alone and has pre-decided strategies to get conversations going (esp in clubs). I think this summarises that he does have issues.

[Nigeria_Bob]

Halfwit did offer to talk thing through with Kris and Lisa to understand their perspective on,
why they hated on him. Each time Freddie offered the hand of friendship. They just told
him to STFU… it was no accident Lisa's minions Kris and Carly were decisively voted out, Lol.

Yay Freddie

[Nigeria_Bob]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004

Halfwit hasn't made 1 friend on BB this year. He goes clubbing alone and has pre-decided strategies to get conversations going (esp in clubs). I think this summarises that he does have issues.

Halfwits done better than to make one friend… he has many thousands
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/mod_pe...ed.cgi?HalfWit

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by Nigeria_Bob
Halfwit did offer to talk thing through with Kris and Lisa to understand their perspective on,
why they hated on him. Each time Freddie offered the hand of friendship. They just told
him to STFU… it was no accident Lisa's minions Kris and Carly were decisively voted out, Lol.

Yay Freddie

And yet Freddie got voted out to a mixed reception at best, and public opinion is turning on Lisa, with even Ulkira Johnsson wanting her to win.

So what is it? Maybe with the editing and lack of LF, we'll never truly know.

[Beastie]

nearly 6000 signatures to put freddie back in!!! lmao!! please get him back in to spice the jig up!! like bb4's jon tickle going back in

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by Nigeria_Bob
Halfwits done better than make one friend… he has many thousands
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/mod_pe...ed.cgi?HalfWit

He has not made 1 friend on BB this year. Those signatures are from what people have seen from him on a scripted show that's massively edited.

Unfortunately for him, people that LIVED with him 24/7, none liked him. Sad, but true.

[Beastie]

freddie has made friends with angel!! and marcus.. and siavash!! i know he hasnt made a STRONG friend.. like lisa did with karly! but so what!! big brother is a game and freddie is loved on the outside

which would you rather have?? be friends with everyone inside the house but be HATED by most on the outside??

or.. be hated by nearly everyone in the house? but.. have a big fan base outside??

i choose the 2nd option.. lol

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by bbfanatic
freddie has made friends with angel!! and marcus.. and siavash!! i know he hasnt made a STRONG friend.. like lisa did with karly! but so what!! big brother is a game and freddie is loved on the outside

which would you rather have?? be friends with everyone inside the house but be HATED by most on the outside??

or.. be hated by nearly everyone in the house? but.. have a big fan base outside??

i choose the 2nd option.. lol

You say that, but the 'outside' support is only based on massively edited footage on a TV show, they aren't living with him 24/7, in real life, dealing with him, etc. I do wonder what people would really think if they lived with him. I don't think it's a coincidence that he was so unpopular within the house.

And I don't think Lisa is even unpopular anymore, her odds are shortening by the day. So public opinion is very fickle anyway; based on footage.

I would much rather have the ability to be liked and loved when people meet me face to face. That is the real me, with 1st hand judgements.

[Nigeria_Bob]

The objective of BB is not to make friends, but to win the prize. Though some people (like Lisa) integrate making friends and alliances into their gameplan as means to staying in and not being voted. Also having many friends or no friends, especially in the big brother house is pretty much meaningless as a barometer of how decent a person is. As has been proved over the years the guise of friendship in the house, is only as friendships of convenience.

No wonder Marcus calls everyone arselicks, and said of Freddie he's the only one who hasn't bitched.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by Nigeria_Bob
The objective of BB is not to make friends, but to win the prize. Though some people (like Lisa) integrate
making friends and alliances into their gameplan as means to staying in not being voted.
Also having many friends or no friends, especially in the big brother house is pretty much
meaningless as a barometer of how decent a person is.

For me it would be for the experience, and making friends would be a huge part of that. You're unlikely to win, and it's a once in a lifetime opportunity. When you leave, you only leave with memories. Looking back and being disliked by all HMs? Not good.

No wonder Marcus calls everyone arselicks, and said of Freddie he's the only one who hasn't bitched.

Erm he said that about Lisa, not being an a*se lick. He respects Lisa. I don't think he respects nor likes Freddie. He watched Freddie dig his own grave in the final week due to his over-cocky predictions!

[Nigeria_Bob]

Lisa is the arse-lick magnet, while not being an arselick herself she perpetuates it which is far worse

[Nigeria_Bob]

Given the choice between being disliked inside the big brother house or in the real-world. It's really a no-brainer… the same housemates have to function in the real-world once their 5-mins of fame is up.

[Beastie]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004

You say that, but the 'outside' support is only based on massively edited footage on a TV show, they aren't living with him 24/7, in real life, dealing with him, etc. I do wonder what people would really think if they lived with him. I don't think it's a coincidence that he was so unpopular within the house.

And I don't think Lisa is even unpopular anymore, her odds are shortening by the day. So public opinion is very fickle anyway; based on footage.

I would much rather have the ability to be liked and loved when people meet me face to face. That is the real me, with 1st hand judgements.

actually yeah now thinking about it! you are probably right!! infact no.. i change my mind! i would rather be friends with most people in the house! at the end of the day if im evicted and booed.. the hatred will only last for a short period of time! i highly doubt i will be as hated as alex who got her car damaged and who had to go into hiding....

[Nigeria_Bob]

Lisa is unpopular. Bea was *very* unpopular. While Bea was there Lisa evaded the radar of hate…
now she's out in the open, it appears with Charlie.

Lisa Charlie