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farhad · 06-09-2009, 12:18 AM

Siavash did play a good game and got very far and finished as the top man of BB10, whilst others stayed due to block voting, siavash played it well to stay longer, i think he has to be the best game planner of BB ever.

Jords · 06-09-2009, 12:23 AM

He aint no gameplanner.

Vicky. · 06-09-2009, 12:24 AM

Siavash tended to avoid conflict in general, and didnt really have any annoying habits or anything...this has contributed more than anything else...until near the end he was never a controversial housemates really. And even then, I think a lot of people hated him simply because he was a threat to whoever they liked winning. He had fans, but not many people hated him as he had an uncanny ability to come out of every situation unscathed(earlier on in the series, ignore the final weeks). Marcus left instead of him, plainly because he had stirred up more feeling in people...a vote to evict nearly always gets rid of the bigger personality(the exception being freddie, but he was nearly universally liked in the beginning). Mainly be being laidback and cool about nearly everything. In my eyes anyway.

The not nominating thing in no way contributed to him being 2nd. I dont know anyone at all that started supporting him because of that, more that he grew on them in general along the series. If anything, it lost him fans.

I dont believe he had a gameplan, though i will be flamed for saying this. He was just being himself. And wanting acceptance from the public as I also believe he is deeply insecure...hence the loud clothes, wanting to be up for eviction because he feels the need to earn his place etc.

Im hoping there is no block vote next year, but Im not holding my breath. People who go on next year will have seen Lisas reign of terror(!) and will try and do the same, since it did so well...whilst trying to avoid getting hated by the public, which was her only downfall.

MissKittyFantastico · 06-09-2009, 12:25 AM

I actually think he could have won had he not done the not nominating thing, it pissed a LOT of people off who up to that point had thought he was a cool guy.

Also the Noirin/girlfriend thing lost him some popularity.

But yeah, he played a good game and I actually don't think he gave a **** about winning towards the end, despite what a lot of people may say otherwise.

I think next year BB will clamp down on the rules, at least I hope they do, that way we won't get people bitching and moaning about the not nomming thing. BB do need to do something to stop block voting happening again also though, that's the main reason Vash stopped nominating in the first place imo.

MiuMiu · 06-09-2009, 12:26 AM

I'll be on BB next year.
So I won't allow for any game plans.
I'll call them out on it if there is people at it.

setanta · 06-09-2009, 12:27 AM

You might see a few trying it out, but his gameplan was all to do with the fact that he realised his group was favoured outside, because of what the new housemates had said. They'll have to take measures to ensure that new housemates aren't as clued in to who the public like or dislike because this is bound to have an effect.

Also, I think next year if anyone refuses to nominate they'll just be kicked out the door or they'll introduce far more severe punishments. We'll see. It'll be interesting to see how they combat it.

Oh, and they'll have to do something to ensure block voting doesn't become the norm.

farhad · 06-09-2009, 12:29 AM

[rquote=2547357&tid=146893&author=VickyJ]Siavash tended to avoid conflict in general, and didnt really have any annoying habits or anything...this has contributed more than anything else...until near the end he was never a controversial housemates really. And even then, I think a lot of people hated him simply because he was a threat to whoever they liked winning. He had fans, but not many people hated him as he had an uncanny ability to come out of every situation unscathed(earlier on in the series, ignore the final weeks). Marcus left instead of him, plainly because he had stirred up more feeling in people...a vote to evict nearly always gets rid of the bigger personality(the exception being freddie, but he was nearly universally liked in the beginning). Mainly be being laidback and cool about nearly everything. In my eyes anyway.

The not nominating thing in no way contributed to him being 2nd. I dont know anyone at all that started supporting him because of that, more that he grew on them in general along the series. If anything, it lost him fans.

I dont believe he had a gameplan, though i will be flamed for saying this. He was just being himself. And wanting acceptance from the public as I also believe he is deeply insecure...hence the loud clothes, wanting to be up for eviction because he feels the need to earn his place etc.

Im hoping there is no block vote next year, but Im not holding my breath. People who go on next year will have seen Lisas reign of terror(!) and will try and do the same, since it did so well...whilst trying to avoid getting hated by the public, which was her only downfall.[/rquote]

The no nominating thing was just to put everyone up so he has more chance of staying plus saving the ones he is close to in the house...it did work twice.

I liked siavash for his cunning gameplan, it gave another side to his character.

Vicky. · 06-09-2009, 12:30 AM

[rquote=2547363&tid=146893&author=setanta]
Also, I think next year if anyone refuses to nominate they'll just be kicked out the door or they'll introduce far more severe punishments. We'll see. It'll be interesting to see how they combat it.

Oh, and they'll have to do something to ensure block voting doesn't become the norm. [/rquote]

Yes they need to do something like this. As I believe it is a little unfair to put all the blame on the housemate who is getting away with not nominating, when in reality, it is BBs fault for not punishing this kind of behaviour in the first place.

I want to see a return of evil BB, who will punish people for even the smallest of rulebreaks, such as not wearing a mic when they are required to.

GypsyGoth · 06-09-2009, 12:30 AM

[rquote=2547359&tid=146893&author=MissKittyFantasti co]I actually think he could have won had he not done the not nominating thing, it p****d a LOT of people off who up to that point had thought he was a cool guy.[/rquote]

I agree and he peed off important people like Davina and other BB staff. Without making enemies of them he stood a much better chance.

Vicky. · 06-09-2009, 12:31 AM

[rquote=2547370&tid=146893&author=farhad]
The no nominating thing was just to put everyone up so he has more chance of staying plus saving the ones he is close to in the hous...it did work twice.[/rquote]

Again IN YOUR OPINION.

Plus surely it isnt his fault that they chose to put the whole house up when they could just as easily of kicked him out instead.

setanta · 06-09-2009, 12:33 AM

[rquote=2547374&tid=146893&author=VickyJ][rquote=2547363&tid=146893&author=setanta]
Also, I think next year if anyone refuses to nominate they'll just be kicked out the door or they'll introduce far more severe punishments. We'll see. It'll be interesting to see how they combat it.

Oh, and they'll have to do something to ensure block voting doesn't become the norm. [/rquote]

Yes they need to do something like this. As I believe it is a little unfair to put all the blame on the housemate who is getting away with not nominating, when in reality, it is BBs fault for not punishing this kind of behaviour in the first place.

I want to see a return of evil BB, who will punish people for even the smallest of rulebreaks, such as not wearing a mic when they are required to. [/rquote]

It was a really half assed production this year right? There was no creativity or balls on display at all.

setanta · 06-09-2009, 12:35 AM

[rquote=2547384&tid=146893&author=VickyJ][rquote=2547370&tid=146893&author=farhad]
The no nominating thing was just to put everyone up so he has more chance of staying plus saving the ones he is close to in the hous...it did work twice.[/rquote]

Again IN YOUR OPINION.

Plus surely it isnt his fault that they chose to put the whole house up when they could just as easily of kicked him out instead.[/rquote]

Nah, he's a betting man Vicky and the odds were in his favour if everyone was up. Sure he said it on numerous occassions and in his interview that he wanted them all to be up each week.

Vicky. · 06-09-2009, 12:44 AM

[rquote=2547395&tid=146893&author=setanta][rquote=2547384&tid=146893&author=VickyJ][rquote=2547370&tid=146893&author=farhad]
The no nominating thing was just to put everyone up so he has more chance of staying plus saving the ones he is close to in the hous...it did work twice.[/rquote]

Again IN YOUR OPINION.

Plus surely it isnt his fault that they chose to put the whole house up when they could just as easily of kicked him out instead.[/rquote]

Nah, he's a betting man Vicky and the odds were in his favour if everyone was up. Sure he said it on numerous occassions and in his interview that he wanted them all to be up each week. [/rquote]

And again...if they punished him properly in the first place, then it would never have happened.

He knew he could get away with it, so did it more. He didnt want to nominate people he considered friends...so he didnt, whilst knowing there would be no punishment for it. MAYBE there was an element of wanting them all up because he and his friends would have more chance of staying, which I actually think is understandable, when up against the ridiculous block voting that there was this year.

BB was a joke this year.

You can tell its getting to the end when the producers cant even be a***d to think up a decent punishment for something like this, and then break all of their own rules by letting them TALK about nominations...again because they couldnt be bothered to think of punishments, because there were so many breaking rules, because it hadnt been nipped in the bud to begin with.

setanta · 06-09-2009, 12:47 AM

And again...if they punished him properly in the first place, then it would never have happened.

He knew he could get away with it, so did it more. He didnt want to nominate people he considered friends...so he didnt, whilst knowing there would be no punishment for it. MAYBE there was an element of wanting them all up because he and his friends would have more chance of staying, which I actually think is understandable, when up against the ridiculous block voting that there was this year.

BB was a joke this year.

You can tell its getting to the end when the producers cant even be a***d to think up a decent punishment for something like this, and then break all of their own rules by letting them TALK about nominations...again because they couldnt be bothered to think of punishments, because there were so many breaking rules, because it hadnt been nipped in the bud to begin with.[/rquote]

And I said it on the very day that Siavash stopped nominating and the whole house was put up as punishment that the Big Brother production team would live to regret it. Wish I could find that thread! Their decision making has been absolutely disastrous this year.

Patrick · 06-09-2009, 12:47 AM

THERE IS A ****ING BB11!

Your title makes no sense

"If there is a BB11"

No they just said "See you next year for BB11" for the fun of it

Vicky. · 06-09-2009, 12:50 AM

[rquote=2547431&tid=146893&author=setanta]

And I said it on the very day that Siavash stopped nominating and the whole house was put up as punishment that the Big Brother production team would live to regret it. Wish I could find that thread! Their decision making has been absolutely disastrous this year.[/rquote]

I said the same, and whilst supporting siavash also said they should have told him to nominate, or kick him out.

Terrible decisions this year, absolutely terrible. The HMs all ran BB. Not the producers.

HalfwitFTW · 06-09-2009, 01:00 AM

I dont think he had any game plan.

He was just doing what he felt was right all along, and always explained his actions and reasons for taking those actions..... both to the housemates and to the public. A good gameplayer is never so honest and upfront about what they are doing and why they are doing it.

I think he went in there with a gameplan but once the whole Noirin thing happened, he said he is taking himself out of the game, and thats where he gave up and just went along with doing what he felt was right.

setanta · 06-09-2009, 01:01 AM

[rquote=2547470&tid=146893&author=HalfwitFTW]I dont think he had any game plan.

He was just doing what he felt was right all along, and always explained his actions and reasons for taking those actions..... both to the housemates and to the public. A good gameplayer is never so honest and upfront about what they are doing and why they are doing it.

I think he went in there with a gameplan but once the whole Noirin thing happened, he said he is taking himself out of the game, and thats where he gave up and just went along with doing what he felt was right.
[/rquote]

Eh, nope.

farhad · 06-09-2009, 01:02 AM

[rquote=2547424&tid=146893&author=VickyJ][rquote=2547395&tid=146893&author=setanta][rquote=2547384&tid=146893&author=VickyJ][rquote=2547370&tid=146893&author=farhad]
The no nominating thing was just to put everyone up so he has more chance of staying plus saving the ones he is close to in the hous...it did work twice.[/rquote]

Again IN YOUR OPINION.

Plus surely it isnt his fault that they chose to put the whole house up when they could just as easily of kicked him out instead.[/rquote]

Nah, he's a betting man Vicky and the odds were in his favour if everyone was up. Sure he said it on numerous occassions and in his interview that he wanted them all to be up each week. [/rquote]

And again...if they punished him properly in the first place, then it would never have happened.

He knew he could get away with it, so did it more. He didnt want to nominate people he considered friends...so he didnt, whilst knowing there would be no punishment for it. MAYBE there was an element of wanting them all up because he and his friends would have more chance of staying, which I actually think is understandable, when up against the ridiculous block voting that there was this year.

BB was a joke this year.

You can tell its getting to the end when the producers cant even be a***d to think up a decent punishment for something like this, and then break all of their own rules by letting them TALK about nominations...again because they couldnt be bothered to think of punishments, because there were so many breaking rules, because it hadnt been nipped in the bud to begin with.[/rquote]

I know people have difference of opinions, but what i admired that he kept to his words and not nominated, he is man of his words.

Vicky. · 06-09-2009, 01:04 AM

[rquote=2547480&tid=146893&author=farhad]

I know people have difference of opinions, but what i admired that he kept to his words and not nominated, he is man of his words.[/rquote]

Yeah, cant deny that one

HalfwitFTW · 06-09-2009, 01:04 AM

[rquote=2547476&tid=146893&author=setanta][rquote=2547470&tid=146893&author=HalfwitFTW]I dont think he had any game plan.

He was just doing what he felt was right all along, and always explained his actions and reasons for taking those actions..... both to the housemates and to the public. A good gameplayer is never so honest and upfront about what they are doing and why they are doing it.

I think he went in there with a gameplan but once the whole Noirin thing happened, he said he is taking himself out of the game, and thats where he gave up and just went along with doing what he felt was right.
[/rquote]

Eh, nope.[/rquote]

Care to elaborate?

setanta · 06-09-2009, 01:05 AM

[rquote=2547485&tid=146893&author=HalfwitFTW][rquote=2547476&tid=146893&author=setanta][rquote=2547470&tid=146893&author=HalfwitFTW]I dont think he had any game plan.

He was just doing what he felt was right all along, and always explained his actions and reasons for taking those actions..... both to the housemates and to the public. A good gameplayer is never so honest and upfront about what they are doing and why they are doing it.

I think he went in there with a gameplan but once the whole Noirin thing happened, he said he is taking himself out of the game, and thats where he gave up and just went along with doing what he felt was right.
[/rquote]

Eh, nope.[/rquote]

Care to elaborate?[/rquote]

Nah, not really. It's tiresome at this stage and sure he lost anyway. Said it all before anyway.

farhad · 06-09-2009, 01:06 AM

[rquote=2547431&tid=146893&author=setanta]
And again...if they punished him properly in the first place, then it would never have happened.

He knew he could get away with it, so did it more. He didnt want to nominate people he considered friends...so he didnt, whilst knowing there would be no punishment for it. MAYBE there was an element of wanting them all up because he and his friends would have more chance of staying, which I actually think is understandable, when up against the ridiculous block voting that there was this year.

BB was a joke this year.

You can tell its getting to the end when the producers cant even be a***d to think up a decent punishment for something like this, and then break all of their own rules by letting them TALK about nominations...again because they couldnt be bothered to think of punishments, because there were so many breaking rules, because it hadnt been nipped in the bud to begin with.[/rquote]

And I said it on the very day that Siavash stopped nominating and the whole house was put up as punishment that the Big Brother production team would live to regret it. Wish I could find that thread! Their decision making has been absolutely disastrous this year.[/rquote]

BB knew that they couldn't afford to lose another HM, after so many walk out this year, and siavash's no nominating thing did make some dramatic highlights, hence why he wasn't kicked out.

santaa · 06-09-2009, 01:31 AM

Shoud have been ejected. Ofcourse Siavash had a a game plan. It didn't work so why copy it. No prizes for coming second, and it was a landslide victory for Sophie.

Shasown · 06-09-2009, 01:44 AM

[rquote=2547480&tid=146893&author=farhad]

I know people have difference of opinions, but what i admired that he kept to his words and not nominated, he is man of his words.[/rquote]

A man of his word?

I wouldn't go that far, what about the contract with BB to abide by the rules agreed to by Siavash prior to entering the house. This being the earlier agreement should have overridded any thoughts by Siavash to "take himself out of the game".

His noble action of not nominating was made on selfsih grounds, to expunge the guilt he felt over the Noirin affair.

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