[Shaun]

by here I mean on a forum about Big Brother.

[ILoveTRW]

errr no, as i keep saying The Real World is the reason for reality tv and the truman show

[Shaun]

um.

Andrew Niccol completed a one-page film treatment titled The Malcolm Show in May 1991.[6] The original draft was more in tone of a science fiction thriller, with the story set in New York City.[5] Niccol stated, "I think everyone questions the authenticity of their lives at certain points. It's like when kids ask if they're adopted".

The Real World is a reality television program on MTV originally produced by Mary-Ellis Bunim and Jonathan Murray. First broadcast in 1992, the show is the longest-running program in MTV history.

ciao.

[Stu]

Also, Nineteen Eighty Four says hi.

[Shaun]

wot tv show woz on in 1984 then???

[ILoveTRW]

Originally Posted by Shaun

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ciao.

well the real world obviously had plans of a couple of years before it started production, so therefore it is still the first reality tv concept and is therefore the reason why we are here

[Stu]

Big Brother was directly influenced by Nineteen Eighty Four and was originally conceived as a social experiment. It was never intended to turn into a Trash TV show like The Real World.

You can't say hand on heart Big Brother would not have existed if it were not for The Real World. Completely unfounded BS.

[ILoveTRW]

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

Also, Nineteen Eighty Four says hi.

has anyone on this forum actually read 1984, everyone seems to think that big brother is 100% based on it when actually the only thing they have in common is the name big brother

[Shaun]

then if we're going to continue down the 'ignoring Shaun's topic and bringing up some **** show noone cares about' route, I direct you again to Stu's 1984 point.

Now, back on topic:

I like how it's managed to predict a lot of society's interruption with "reality" television, particularly the number of lives its probably ruined [correlations between Truman, and say, Jade Goody perhaps].

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by ILoveDC

has anyone on this forum actually read 1984, everyone seems to think that big brother is based on it when actually the only thing they have in common is the name big brother

I have, and there's more to it than that. Such as the ideas of constant surveillance, control over what you eat. Sure - the show is a lot less political than the book because, well, you can't lock 14 people in a House and torture them into thinking 2 + 2 is 5.

[ILoveTRW]

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

Big Brother was directly influenced by Nineteen Eighty Four and was originally conceived as a social experiment. It was never intended to turn into a Trash TV show like The Real World.

You can't say hand on heart Big Brother would not have existed if it were not for The Real World. Completely unfounded BS.

someone struggling with aids and dying whilst the show was still airing is not trash tv

[\PJ/]

Is there not a real world forum?

[Stu]

Originally Posted by ILoveDC

someone struggling with aids and dying whilst the show was still airing is not trash tv

The Real World is Trash TV. That's not even a knock on it. It's what it's meant to be. You of all people should know that.

As for Nineteen Eighty Four, It's one of my favourite novels ever and the entire theme of the Big Brother TV show evolved from it with relation to constant surveillance and peoples lives being controlled by a higher entity.

Were you looking for a litteral adaption? What do you want, the Thought Police to break into the house and batter the **** out of the housemates?

[MrGaryy]

I have read 1984 and to say the only thing they have in common is the title, is a very ignorant way of looking at it. The concept remains, people being controlled by a somewhat unknown force, having no say in a lot of things, being watched and probed, it's not to be taken for face value.

[Patrick]

Our R.E Teacher showed us This Truman Show, and then I had to go to counseling half way through and didnt get to see the end

Whats it actually about?
It seemed really weird.

[ILoveTRW]

at the end of the day

the real world has a hell of a lot more in common with bb than 1984 has

the real world has challenge public views in America

and why the hell would then president bill Clinton comment on it if it was such trash

[Stu]

Bill Clinton commenting on something makes it not trash?

Bill Clinton? Ol' Blowjob Bill?

Of all the examples you could have used, dude. Gordon Brown commented on Big Brother. Does that make it not trash?

Seriously, your too dense for this debating game.

At the end of the day this thread is not about The Real World.

[ILoveTRW]

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

Of all the examples you could have used, dude. Gordon Brown commented on Big Brother. Does that make it not trash?

if you are calling bb trash as well then im fine with that, it just when people call TRW trash and not bb.

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

At the end of the day this thread is not about The Real World.

actually it is all about the real world

[Stu]

Originally Posted by ILoveDC

if you are calling bb trash as well then im fine with that, it just when people call TRW trash and not bb.



actually it is all about the real world

No it's not. You saw fit to turn it into a thread about the Real World. Your the only one here who wants to discuss The Real World.

I get the mental image of you squinting at the screen trawling through threads trying to look for the word 'real' breathing heavily so you can derail it into a discussion about The Real World that nobody will give a **** about.

Your an old enough lad. Christ. Cop on and act like it.

[ILoveTRW]

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

No it's not. You saw fit to turn it into a thread about the Real World. Your the only one here who wants to discuss The Real World.

I get the mental image of you squinting at the screen trawling through threads trying to look for the word 'real' breathing heavily so you can derail it into a discussion about The Real World that nobody will give a **** about.

Your an old enough lad. Christ. Cop on and act like it.

sorry if i dont want to listen to the ignorance on this forum

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Patrick

Our R.E Teacher showed us This Truman Show, and then I had to go to counseling half way through and didnt get to see the end

Whats it actually about?
It seemed really weird.

A man called Truman is being filmed by hidden cameras all over a fake 'town' where he's been brought up - he's told his father died at sea so he has a fear of the ocean, and as such no sense of exploration.

However, he begins to notice that everything isn't 'real', ie. background characters appear on a loop, he sees his dad as an 'extra', and tries to escape from the town.

At every escape attempt the producers conjure up something to stop him - like traffic, bus breakdowns, forest fires, a nuclear meltdown...

Basically it's about completely exploiting this one man for entertainment. A number of people begin a 'Free Truman' campaign to scrap the show [which is watched by billions nationwide apparently ]...I won't spoil the ending.

[Vicky.]

I think Im going to watch this tonight...keep being told its good...


And I believe in parts of the matrix and that so apparently this film will be good for me...so Im imagining its sort of like the matrix?

[setanta]

It's a Peter Weir film so it's obviously class.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by VickyJ

I think Im going to watch this tonight...keep being told its good...


And I believe in parts of the matrix and that so apparently this film will be good for me...so Im imagining its sort of like the matrix?

In the classic sense that someone is living in a bubble then yes, comparisons can be made.

I also believe The Matrix has literal interpretations. You can view it as a metaphor for the 'fake' world of advertising and mass media that we live in.

[Scarlett.]

One thing Truman show and Real World have in common, they're both scripted