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LeatherTrumpet · 31-03-2010, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo

yeah, I do hear what you're saying and that makes more sense, but you really shouldn't be defending people like this guy and the B&B couple cos It's those people who are giving religion the bad name and make people think that you all hate Gays.

also, like I said before the bible wasn't written by God, it was written by men, so who told them that "unnatural lusts and debauchery" was wrong in Gods eyes?

2 Timothy 3:16-17, "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17. so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work."

You may beg to differ but as a Christian I am probably going to go with the Bible on this one and on what I have read.

I am defending these people not so much because of who they represent but on behalf of common sense and anti-hysteria.

Niamh. · 31-03-2010, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

2 Timothy 3:16-17, "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17. so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work."

You may beg to differ but as a Christian I am probably going to go with the Bible on this one and on what I have read.

I am defending these people not so much because of who they represent but on behalf of common sense and anti-hysteria.

Who is Timothy and why should I believe him?

But in defending these people you are enforcing their views and strengthening the notion that it is what christians believe

Stu · 31-03-2010, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

equally "the gays" have a "hard off" for the church as they think it is anti gay, it is not, but then why ruin a temper tantrum?

Why are you putting 'the gays' in inver -

Oh yeah, your one of them people who think homosexual people don't actually exist. How silly of me.

LeatherTrumpet · 31-03-2010, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown

Dont you think there is enough bigotry, ignorance and intolerance in this country as it is without having to import it in from America.

Bet that was Mr Holes most expensive bed and breakfast ever. Hopefully it will discourage him and his ilk from popping over to rant.

It adds a bit of colour to the shopping area, Glasgow has lost that since aggressive alcoholic numbers have dwindled.

Shasown · 31-03-2010, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I am defending these people not so much because of who they represent but on behalf of common sense and anti-hysteria.

I have to agree with you there, however, he has plead guilty, therefore there is no comeback, he cant appeal the sentence now either, it was a summary court with summary punishment. He can only appeal the decision if there was a procedural error, as it was "how do you plead- guilty your honour" its extremely unlikely there was a procedural error.

Because the sentence stands, it can be used as a basis to set the next line at which to chip away more of the basic human rights we collectively have.

If matey had plead not guilty and waited it probably would have been thrown out by the PF staff when all the prosecution paperwork was complete, if not a solicitor could have probably argued the charge out during the interim diet(s) but chances are if it had gone to a trial diet it would have been thrown out before the prosecution completed its case. (Diet is simply the term used for court hearing up here).

As it was only for a breach of the peace chances are he could have gone home and plead by post. They wouldnt have been bail restrictions except not to approach prosecution witnesses, I think thats why he plead in case bail required him to stay in Scotland, then again a good solicitor would have accepted the conditions to get him free then lodge an appeal agaisnt the restriction.

LeatherTrumpet · 31-03-2010, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Who is Timothy and why should I believe him?

But in defending these people you are enforcing their views and strengthening the notion that it is what christians believe

No I am not.