[billy123]

Originally Posted by InOne

The HM's could not give a fuck about football, you can tell that.

steve,dave and nathan did that much was obvious via the live feed.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by bobnot

steve,dave and nathan did that much was obvious via the live feed.

So they say. But in the real world...

[tmx]

How many of the housemates would be able to name the Irish national anthem, let alone sing it?

Probably none.

So why the heck is Caoimhe expected to know the BRITISH* national anthem?

* hence why Dave and John both know it (or should have done)

[starry]

She looked like she was trying not to scowl when the anthem was played.

[starry]

Originally Posted by bobnot

steve,dave and nathan did that much was obvious via the live feed.

Sunshine and Mario watched all the game as well, and apparently do watch football games on TV on the outside.

[stoney]

why did they use the British national anthem for the English national anthem

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by tmx

How many of the housemates would be able to name the Irish national anthem, let alone sing it?

Probably none.

So why the heck is Caoimhe expected to know the BRITISH* national anthem?

* hence why Dave and John both know it (or should have done)

Caoihme's quite happy to soak up the fame on British big brother.. if she doesn't like it then she should have gone on big brother Ireland!

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by James

England need a new anthem, I think. GSTQ is meant to be the UK national anthem.

No it isn't, Scotland dropped that

[Raph]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Well she shouldnt be singing somebody elses anthem anyway.

I wouldn't!

this.

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by stoney

why did they use the British national anthem for the English national anthem

Constitutionally, I'd thought GSTQ became England's National Anthem once Scotland officially dropped it and retook it's own

[SoFarSoGood282]

Originally Posted by tmx

How many of the housemates would be able to name the Irish national anthem, let alone sing it?

Probably none.

So why the heck is Caoimhe expected to know the BRITISH* national anthem?

* hence why Dave and John both know it (or should have done)

This!

God she's Irish get over it!!
She has an Irish name, she wore the Irish Jersey and didn't sing the anthem because she's IRISH!!!!

[tmx]

Originally Posted by Claymores

Constitutionally, I'd thought GSTQ became England's National Anthem once Scotland officially dropped it and retook it's own

Neither England nor Scotland have an official National Anthem. Flower of Scotland is the unofficial one for Scotland while England use the British one. Wales do have a national anthem, called 'Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau'

GSTQ is the British National Anthem, as well as the royal anthem of Australia, the Bahamas, Barbados, Canada and Jamaica.

It was actually in the news a few days ago about how England should get its own Anthem - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/politics/10407937.stm

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

Caoihme's quite happy to soak up the fame on British big brother.. if she doesn't like it then she should have gone on big brother Ireland!

Well firstly, according to Caoihme, Big Brother approached HER to come on the show.

Secondly, Big Brother held auditions in Ireland, it is broadcast in Ireland and up until the voting scandals you could vote from Ireland.

Hence, Big Brother UK effectively includes Ireland

And finally who said anything about her not liking it? This is about hert not knowing the words

[tmx]

Originally Posted by Locke.

And she didn't sing the national anthem because she was Irish aswell, but Dave still sang it even though he is Welsh. They should have just locked the useless bitch in the house.

That makes no sense at all.

GSTQ is the BRITISH national anthem.

Wales is a part of Britain while Ireland is not. ergo Dave should know it while Caoihme should not.

[AngelChair]

She did make a face regarding it, but i just think she felt awkward because she didnt know the words!

Otherwise she might have been singing:
Sinne Fianna Fáil
A tá fé gheall ag Éirinn,
buion dár slua
Thar toinn do ráinig chugainn,
Fé mhóid bheith saor.
Sean tír ár sinsir feasta
Ní fhagfar fé'n tiorán ná fé'n tráil
Anocht a théam sa bhearna bhaoil,
Le gean ar Ghaeil chun báis nó saoil
Le guna screach fé lámhach na bpiléar
Seo libh canaídh Amhrán na bhFiann.

[SoFarSoGood282]

Originally Posted by AngelChair

She did make a face regarding it, but i just think she felt awkward because she didnt know the words!

Otherwise she might have been singing:
Sinne Fianna Fáil
A tá fé gheall ag Éirinn,
buion dár slua
Thar toinn do ráinig chugainn,
Fé mhóid bheith saor.
Sean tír ár sinsir feasta
Ní fhagfar fé'n tiorán ná fé'n tráil
Anocht a théam sa bhearna bhaoil,
Le gean ar Ghaeil chun báis nó saoil
Le guna screach fé lámhach na bpiléar
Seo libh canaídh Amhrán na bhFiann.

She should have start singing that.....that would really piss some people off!!

[Livia]

Originally Posted by tmx

How many of the housemates would be able to name the Irish national anthem, let alone sing it?

Probably none.

So why the heck is Caoimhe expected to know the BRITISH* national anthem?

* hence why Dave and John both know it (or should have done)

She's on a BRITISH show in BRITAIN. If I were on an Irish show in Ireland maybe I would, out of respect, sing their anthem. What's more she should have been asked to wear a red shirt. John James wore a red shirt and he's an Aussie. She should have worn a red shirt with an Irish badge on it, but as usual, the more politically sensitive nations have to have special treatment.

[AngelChair]

Originally Posted by Livia

She's on a BRITISH show in BRITAIN. If I were on an Irish show in Ireland maybe I would, our of respect, sing their anthem. What's more she should have been asked to wear a red shirt. John James wore a red shirt and he's an Aussie. She should have worn a red shirt with an Irish badge on it, but as usual, the more politically sensitive nations have to have special treatment.

Areyou seriously saying if you were accepted onto Big Brother in Slovakia/Italy/Germany you would learn their national anthem before you went on??

Really.....?

[SoFarSoGood282]

Originally Posted by Livia

She's on a BRITISH show in BRITAIN. If I were on an Irish show in Ireland maybe I would, our of respect, sing their anthem. What's more she should have been asked to wear a red shirt. John James wore a red shirt and he's an Aussie. She should have worn a red shirt with an Irish badge on it, but as usual, the more politically sensitive nations have to have special treatment.

An anthem is a song of loyalty or devotion, a song of praise. A national anthem is therefore by definition a song that praises a nation or expresses loyally to a nation. Caoimhe has no loyalty so why should she be a hypocrite and sing GSTQ!!

[Peter Plunker]

Dave's jersey was the Welsh one, not the english one with a Welsh badge stuck on. Made by Champion not Umbro.

PS Dave loves hiss footy and is a Cardiff City season ticket holder.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by AngelChair

Areyou seriously saying if you were accepted onto Big Brother in Slovakia/Italy/Germany you would learn their national anthem before you went on??

Really.....?

No... maybe not... but you catch my drift. I wouldn't think twice about wearing an Irish shirt if I were in Ireland. Or a German shirt if I were in Germany. And actually I already know the Italian National Anthem... but you wouldn't want me to sing it, I assure you. I make Sunshine sound like a really good singer.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by SoFarSoGood282

An anthem is a song of loyalty or devotion, a song of praise. A national anthem is therefore by definition a song that praises a nation or expresses loyally to a nation. Caoimhe has no loyalty so why should she be a hypocrite and sing GSTQ!!

Yeah, I understand the concept of a national anthem, although I think you're dragging it a little far there. But she shouldn't have had an exception made for her with the shirt unless they'd afforded the same privilege to John James. It was only a bit of fun, no one was asking her to make a political comment...

[SoFarSoGood282]

Originally Posted by Livia

Yeah, I understand the concept of a national anthem, although I think you're dragging it a little far there. But she shouldn't have had an exception made for her with the shirt unless they'd afforded the same privilege to John James. It was only a bit of fun, no one was asking her to make a political comment...

She was given the shirt by BB. JJ parents are English, he has a English passport!! JJ has said before that he supports England and watches the matches. I don't know the words to GSTQ, I wouldn't say she does either...

[AngelChair]

Originally Posted by Livia

No... maybe not... but you catch my drift. I wouldn't think twice about wearing an Irish shirt if I were in Ireland. Or a German shirt if I were in Germany. And actually I already know the Italian National Anthem... but you wouldn't want me to sing it, I assure you. I make Sunshine sound like a really good singer.

Sunshine does sound like a strangled cat!

Im thinking if there were other foreign HMs this year they would all be given their own gear too. I think its more to do with having pride in the country you are from rather than the country you are currently residing in.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by AngelChair

Sunshine does sound like a strangled cat!

Im thinking if there were other foreign HMs this year they would all be given their own gear too. I think its more to do with having pride in the country you are from rather than the country you are currently residing in.

If Caoime was allowed to wear an Irish shirt in an England/Germany World Cup task, maybe they should have had someone in the German house wearing a French shirt in honour of Henri's handball that knocked Ireland out. Or is that just too mean?

[AngelChair]

Originally Posted by Livia

If Caoime was allowed to wear an Irish shirt in an England/Germany World Cup task, maybe they should have had someone in the German house wearing a French shirt in honour of Henri's handball that knocked Ireland out. Or is that just too mean?

That would be hilariously mean!!