[Kerry]

He's been claiming disability benefits for a 'frozen shoulder' while on X Factor yet kept leaping about on the show and flinging his arms around



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[stewart64]

Originally Posted by ~Kerry~

He's been claiming disability benefits for a 'frozen shoulder' while on X Factor yet kept leaping about on the show and flinging his arms around



Ooooops

Actually that is pretty serious. I wondered why he was a retired teacher in his mid -50s.

[johnx]

As he once sang-"Sometimes I feel like throwin' my hands up in the air".Looks like he should'nt have bothered.

[RichardWells]

The man is a complete fraud, I cannot stand him.

[Niamh.]

oh, naughty naughty!!

[johnx]

Cant belive that bald Tory git Ian-Duncan Smith found the time to talk about Wagners case on TV.Looks like Wagners being used as a scape-goat for the Govts dranconian cuts.Shame on them.

[Jamietwo]

maybe it hurts if he writes on a black board or something, we don't know

[johnx]

Originally Posted by Jamietwo

maybe it hurts if he writes on a black board or something, we don't know

Wagners messed up bigstyle here though.His VT showed him executing a flying karate kick with the proficiency of Bruce Lee.Wagner-you shoulda made sure to play up your frozen shoulder.Man probably got carried away with being in the limelight.

[Jamietwo]

Originally Posted by johnx

Cant belive that bald Tory git Ian-Duncan Smith found the time to talk about Wagners case on TV.Looks like Wagners being used as a scape-goat for the Govts dranconian cuts.Shame on them.

your joking! that's bad, surely they are not allowed to do that to someone publicly. i don't agree with fraudulent claimants at all , but these so called 'austerity' measures are a joke when you consider the amount of money given to banks and the student loans will lead to millions more tax payers money , ultimately going to the banks because like it or not the banks are guaranteed return of the loans plus interest, by us the tax payers. but of course the daily mail readers will lap up wagners story in furious self righteous indignation without the capacity to ever comprehend the real truth of what is going on.

[johnx]

Originally Posted by Jamietwo

your joking! that's bad, surely they are not allowed to do that to someone publicly. i don't agree with fraudulent claimants at all , but these so called 'austerity' measures are a joke when you consider the amount of money given to banks and the student loans will lead to millions more tax payers money , ultimately going to the banks because like it or not the banks are guaranteed return of the loans plus interest, by us the tax payers. but of course the daily mail readers will lap up wagners story in furious self righteous indignation without the capacity to ever comprehend the real truth of what is going on.

Thats what its all about-give the fools a hate figure.

[stewart64]

Originally Posted by Jamietwo

your joking! that's bad, surely they are not allowed to do that to someone publicly. i don't agree with fraudulent claimants at all , but these so called 'austerity' measures are a joke when you consider the amount of money given to banks and the student loans will lead to millions more tax payers money , ultimately going to the banks because like it or not the banks are guaranteed return of the loans plus interest, by us the tax payers. but of course the daily mail readers will lap up wagners story in furious self righteous indignation without the capacity to ever comprehend the real truth of what is going on.

The welfare budget is pretty massive..200 billion and dwarfs the profit of the Banks which was only 32 billion combined before the bust.

[cub]

A frozen shoulder is the most painful thing in the world. You cannot lift your arm above the shoulder - so dressing and showering is a problem. If knocked in the wrong place there is a spasm followed by a lightning shock which slowly recovers. You hold your arm in a sling postion for a time.

It is only temporary however and it lasts about 12-18 months. I worked through mine as I have my own business and can sit at a desk all day.

[Pato]

Could actually be the most idiotic man to ever live ! Claim benefits for an injury then go on tv infront of 15 million people dancing around :L

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

kill him

[Jordan.]

Maybe they'll deport him.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by johnx

Cant belive that bald Tory git Ian-Duncan Smith found the time to talk about Wagners case on TV.Looks like Wagners being used as a scape-goat for the Govts dranconian cuts.Shame on them.

I cant believe that bald git IDS broke the rules by discussing an individual case with the press. Its bordering on the illegal, if not actually illegal for someone with access to someone's confidential information to discuss it without the persons permission.

Duncan Smith is the Minister for Works and Pensions. Hopefully he will be walking the Wilton in Camerons office for a quick one way conversation with David.

[stewart64]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Maybe they'll deport him.

A second allegded benefit cheat. Gamu's mother being the first and ending in deportation.

I suppose we shouldn't judge Wagner to harshly, he was cleared by the producers for performing having declared he was on disability pay. I suppose anyone can perform for short periods under pay killers.

[fruit_cake]

Wagner with his frozen shoulder and Cher with her cold ones.. a match made in heaven obviously!

[Jamietwo]

Originally Posted by stewart64

The welfare budget is pretty massive..200 billion and dwarfs the profit of the Banks which was only 32 billion combined before the bust.

well according to the independant 6 billion has been given in bonuses to the bankings execs and 1 TRILLION of tax payers money has been used to bail them out


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...y-1806247.html

[stewart64]

Originally Posted by Jamietwo

well according to the independant 6 billion has been given in bonuses to the bankings execs and 1 TRILLION of tax payers money has been used to bail them out


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...y-1806247.html

Actually a loan, that the Treasury hope to one day make a profit on, subject to Ireland not going bankrupt of course; we have lent an awful lot to them in housing loans especially RBS. The two billion welfare budget is money that is gone forever.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by stewart64

Actually a loan, that the Treasury hope to one day make a profit on, subject to Ireland not going bankrupt of course; we have lent an awful lot to them in housing loans especially RBS. The two billion welfare budget is money that is gone forever.

Not really, it is pretty much a loan itself in one way.

The welfare payments will help the recipient to live, hopefully keep them from turning to crime to survive and be paid back into state coffers in the form of taxes when and if the person is able to work.