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Old 25-08-2011, 03:35 PM #226
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Oil is the key here


So the yanks , brits or italians
are all protecting there oil deals.
ACTUALLY the western oil companies already were well set up in Libya,. this war is costing them millions of dollars. SO sorry, yur war for oil conspiracy doesn't work in this case. FAIL.
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ACTUALLY the western oil companies already were well set up in Libya,. this war is costing them millions of dollars. SO sorry, yur war for oil conspiracy doesn't work in this case. FAIL.
Hence why they want an end to the war ASAP by backing the rebels who overtook most of the East where all the oil is early on in the conflict
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Hence why they want an end to the war ASAP by backing the rebels who overtook most of the East where all the oil is early on in the conflict
Um but if they wanted to protect their investments, wouldn't it have been easier to just let Ghadaffi crush the rebels? which he could have easily done without NATO assisting them...

I don't follow yur logic,.
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Um but if they wanted to protect their investments, wouldn't it have been easier to just let Ghadaffi crush the rebels? which he could have easily done without NATO assisting them...

I don't follow yur logic,.
That's not really possible, the West couldn't oppose the Libyan uprising because they were fighting for the same values that the West always preach; freedom, democracy etc. So once the Libyans have rebelled, started making gains and taken control of a lot of the oil then naturally they're going to support them especially when they were promising to trade with the West. It was only later that Gadaffi started to take back a lot of the country and was knocking on the door in Benghazi, from there they couldnt just ignore it and if Gadaffi did succeed in ruthlessly crushing the uprising then they still couldnt really continue to trade with a dictator who the world had turned their back on and who has destroyed the very rebellion the West were supporting
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Well the west seems content to allow Cuba, and Syria, and China, and Iran, and North Korea to suffer without democracy...
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Well the west seems content to allow Cuba, and Syria, and China, and Iran, and North Korea to suffer without democracy...
Well yeah, there's either no uprising there or there's nothing to gain from military intervention
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Well yeah, there's either no uprising there or there's nothing to gain from military intervention
there;s nothing to gain from military intervention in Iran? really?
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there;s nothing to gain from military intervention in Iran? really?
Not really no, it would be bloody, destructive, expensive and there's unlikely to be support for such a move. What would you do, just bomb the place to sh*t and install an American puppet government?
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Not really no, it would be bloody, destructive, expensive and there's unlikely to be support for such a move. What would you do, just bomb the place to sh*t and install an American puppet government?

nooo, we'd free them and give them freedom and they'd be all like, OMG America thank you so much for giving us freedom
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nooo, we'd free them and give them freedom and they'd be all like, OMG America thank you so much for giving us freedom
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Anyway in Libya Italy and France
are doing more deals than any other nation.
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Anyway in Libya Italy and France
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15311520

Looks like some Gaddafi Loyalists have sprung up in Tripoli again, I think people underestimate the extent to which some people do support him tbh
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Looks like some Gaddafi Loyalists have sprung up in Tripoli again, I think people underestimate the extent to which some people do support him tbh



Yes a Civil War.

Maybe they need to talk more.
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