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Old 31-07-2017, 07:00 PM #3501
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I don't really know a logical way how Varys would know though since it was a promise to Ned at the Tower of Joy and Ned obviously wouldn't a let it slip, think the only other person that knows about it is Howland (which is why I said before about the history of the Starks and Reeds being underestimated) but Howland has not appeared in the books or the show, (apart from the TOJ episode where they focused on him surviving) we are led to believe he is still alive (think this is why Meera is still alive and hasn't been killed off maybe an encounter is coming soon)
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I think the whole point of Bran and Sansa's reunion was to show how much Bran is now detached from the 'real' world and how he is becoming more and more like the Three Eyed Raven. It wasn't supposed to be emotional/touching like when Jon and Sansa met.

Bran's not the best character to watch but he is important, he'll probably end up warging one of the dragons. And he is boring a lot of the time but last season we got that brilliant episode when the Night's King attacked the cave and Hodor and Summer died, and then finally got the answer on Benjen Stark's whereabouts, and then also found out Jon is a Targaryen. There's a lot of things coming from his storyline.

Plus there is no reason for Jon to believe Varys or Littlefinger about who his parents are. He definitely wouldn't trust either of those, whereas he'll trust his brother.
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This youtuber is really good at explaining things about the show that you might have missed at first glance.

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Dany is so annoying, each episode i find her more and more annoying
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Why is Bran so ****ing creepy now tho?

Trailer for next week, Dany on Drogon yaaaaaaas
He's the Three Eyed Raven and wasn't really ready for it. He's now seen some ****ed up stuff not just in person, but in his visions too. I was a little disappointed at how he was in the reunion, but it does make sense. He's going to be huge in the war with The Night King so it will all
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All in all, I enjoyed the episode. The dialogue was the best it's been for a while aside from the cringe "I thought you said you liked this man" ans "He's refusing to call me Queen" part, but I suppose the scene was showing us the difference in their entitlement so it makes sense.
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It was a great episode, I loved the exchange between Jaime and Olenna and the writers basically rebooting Euron as a character between Seasons 6 and 7 continues to work really well.
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i expect one of the dragons to die, cause of Qyburn's weapon, which we saw it can do major damage to dragons
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Ep 3;
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It's been confirmed by producers that this is the last of Ellaria Sand we'll see and she dies offscreen
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Yeah I see that weapon doing **** all lol

Something's bound to go right for Dany for once after the last 3 eps

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Another amazing episode Dany is getting kind of annoying alright but I feel like her speech about all the stuff she had to live through was an explanation for that in a way. I don't think she's going to go mad like her dad
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It's so rushed now I reckon
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Melisandre will be gone for good bar an episode now, where she might bring Dany back just like she bought Jon back [Ice and Fire] - Maybe Dany will die in the season finale much alike Snow
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I just think she'll take Olenna's words about being a dragon on board and go ape **** with them on her own. Especially after she hears Olenna has died

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Something's bound to go right for Dany for once after the last 3 eps
Qyburn is so badass, almost like a GoT version of james bond's Q with all these weapons
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Also, Meera for MVP. Feels like She's carried Bran's big arse Around all of Westeros for the sake of the War to Come .

I'm here for her to have a powerful marriage and alliance with someone to stay around or coming back with her father to confirm the Jon parentage.
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I'm here for her to have a powerful marriage and alliance with someone to stay around or coming back with her father to confirm the Jon parentage.
Has to be her propose in it imo
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I'm here for her to have a powerful marriage and alliance with someone to stay around or coming back with her father to confirm the Jon parentage.
Either that or her last purpose on the show was to carry Bran back to Winterfell and her death is imminent, I'm hoping for for Howland returning and confirming Jon's parentage though and Meera surviving, she doesn't deserve to die after saving a cripples ass since S2
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He's the Three Eyed Raven and wasn't really ready for it. He's now seen some ****ed up stuff not just in person, but in his visions too. I was a little disappointed at how he was in the reunion, but it does make sense. He's going to be huge in the war with The Night King so it will all
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I wonder if Bran is so emotionless with Sansa because of something he's seen her do in the future like betray Jon with little finger or something?
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Interesting possibility. I do think he's just become cold and strange in general though. It's part of the bittersweet process of having the Starks together, but none of them are really the same..especially Bran. I guess we will know better once we see his interactions with Arya once she arrives(hopefully this season).
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He only mentioned seeing the past and the present in the most recent episode so I'm not sure if he will ever reach a point of seeing the future

"It means I can see everything. Everything that's ever happened to everyone. Everything that's happening right now. It's all pieces now, fragments. I need to learn to see better."
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It's just hard - and this is probably more of a TV viewer problem than a book reader one - to really connect with Bran's storyline now because the 58 combined seconds we got of the mythology of the Three Eyed Raven, the tree people, etc, just wasn't enough to really invest me in the story. He doesn't interest me at all.
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I find it really hard to understand or feel for Bran as a character. He's had so little time in each series he doesn't feel like a character that needs any attention at all. His cold detachment towards Sansa also felt like it came out the blue, which it didn't, although because of the little airtime it's hard to understand what he's been through.

At the moment the only way I can see him being of value is helping Jon & Co with the imminent WW battle, and perhaps help with understanding the battle for the throne. Other than that, he could die in the next episode and I don't feel like it would be any major loss to the current plots.
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