[Stu]

Yeah sure they are.

Anyway re : what Zee is saying I think great music is more plentiful and easily available today than at any other point in history obviously due to the power of the internet as a platform it's just - a cliche I know - the mainstream stuff that is gack.

I don't think music is as exciting though. The thing is until very recently music was always going somewhere new. Each new decade brought new technologies and styles of music. Right now we're at a complete saturation point. Everythings been done and becoming harder to invent new ways of making music. All you can do is make it faster and in increasingly absurd subgenres.

You're not going to get the birth of rocknroll again. You're not going to get the dawn of synthesizers and explosion of electronic music again. That's all been done. We're now here in 2011 and we have everything. We have all the available genres and all the available technology. Music just lulls about now being either dreck, decent or somewhere in between.

[Marc]

Dappy is my hero

[Marc]

YOOOOURRR SEX IS ON FIRREEEEeeeEEEE

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by Chewy

I agree, 80's chart pop music actually had some soul to it, nowadays every song is either Tiny Tampon wittering on about LYF In Da Hud, JLS wanking over underage fans or some slag like Ke$ha singing about going out and having sex with everyone in the club. It all just feels heartless and ruthlessly manufactured in every single aspect.

LMFAO

But yeah Chewy, VERY well said.
I've been listening to the OST of Vice City for about 2 hours now, you know the radio station CDs?

So it's funny you mentioned about 80's music having alot more meaning to it, because it did - the lyrics behind every song made sense, and every single song aswell made use of real instruments - not silly autotuning and sound effects like music now.

It makes me jelaous when I read comments on YouTube about how great it was to live in the '80s when that music was popular and everyone appreciated real music.

[Patrick]

Very good point Stu.

Originally Posted by SaphLiike

Number ones this time since 95...

95 - Shaggy 'Boombastic'
96 - Fugees 'Ready or Not'
97 - Spice Girls 'Spice Up Your Life'
98 - Mel B Feat Missy Elliot 'I Want You Back'
99 - Eiffel65 'Blue (Da Ba Dee)'
00 - Modjo 'Lady'
01 - Kylie Minogue 'Cant Get You Out Of My Head'
02 - Pink 'Just Like A Pill'
03 - Black Eyed Peas 'Where Is The Love'
04 - Eric Prydz 'Call On Me'
05 - Pussycat Dolls 'Dont Cha'
06 - Scissor Sisters 'Dont Feel Like Dancing'
07 - Sean Kingston 'Beautiful Girl'
08 - Kings Of Leon 'Sex On Fire' (I absolutely hated this song)
09 - Taio Cruz 'Break Your Heart'
10 - Alexandra Burke 'Start Without You' (Ive never even heard this song)
11 - One Direction 'What Makes You Beautiful'

You can clearly see the last 3/4 years, number ones have been declining rapidly - all the ones from 95-08 are actually worthy of getting number 1

Exactly.

[Z]

I think a lot of the best music, or at least my favourite songs, are social commentaries. I don't necessarily mean politics, I mean that the lyrics comment on something meaningful and cause you to think about what the songwriter might mean by their choice of words. That's why songs like Someone Like You capture the public imagination and are a roaring success - because people can relate to songs that they have to think about - hearing Red One being name checked and listening to songs about being ~in da club~ over a thumping bassline with a dubstep breakdown do nothing to make people think. I think that's the problem with the music scene at the moment, what's popular is not making people think. For that reason, I therefore think that we'll soon see a new fad pop up that people get behind (like the Indie wave from a few years ago) to counter the current trend of mindless noise. If you look back; music styles flare up in popularity fairly regularly, so I expect that it won't be long before we're complaining about something else and pining for the days when the charts were filled with David Guetta...

[Harry!]

Originally Posted by SaphLiike

Number ones this time since 95...

95 - Shaggy 'Boombastic'
96 - Fugees 'Ready or Not'
97 - Spice Girls 'Spice Up Your Life'
98 - Mel B Feat Missy Elliot 'I Want You Back'
99 - Eiffel65 'Blue (Da Ba Dee)'
00 - Modjo 'Lady'
01 - Kylie Minogue 'Cant Get You Out Of My Head'
02 - Pink 'Just Like A Pill'
03 - Black Eyed Peas 'Where Is The Love'
04 - Eric Prydz 'Call On Me'
05 - Pussycat Dolls 'Dont Cha'
06 - Scissor Sisters 'Dont Feel Like Dancing'

I like all of them songs <3

[Z]

Originally Posted by SaphLiike

Number ones this time since 95...

95 - Shaggy 'Boombastic'
96 - Fugees 'Ready or Not'
97 - Spice Girls 'Spice Up Your Life'
98 - Mel B Feat Missy Elliot 'I Want You Back'
99 - Eiffel65 'Blue (Da Ba Dee)'
00 - Modjo 'Lady'
01 - Kylie Minogue 'Cant Get You Out Of My Head'
02 - Pink 'Just Like A Pill'
03 - Black Eyed Peas 'Where Is The Love'
04 - Eric Prydz 'Call On Me'
05 - Pussycat Dolls 'Dont Cha'
06 - Scissor Sisters 'Dont Feel Like Dancing'
07 - Sean Kingston 'Beautiful Girl'
08 - Kings Of Leon 'Sex On Fire' (I absolutely hated this song)
09 - Taio Cruz 'Break Your Heart'
10 - Alexandra Burke 'Start Without You' (Ive never even heard this song)
11 - One Direction 'What Makes You Beautiful'

You can clearly see the last 3/4 years, number ones have been declining rapidly - all the ones from 95-08 are actually worthy of getting number 1

This post pretty much sums up my point about how it's not that the quality of music has gotten any better or worse; people are just nostalgic about certain periods of music because of the age they were when they were released. Eiffel 65 - Blue (Da Be Dee), more deserving of a #1 than the likes of Taio Cruz/Alexandra Burke/One Direction? Really? I like the song, don't get me wrong, but it's essentially a heap of ****. Most of the songs on that list are crap, just our perception of them depends on when we grew up.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Stu

Yeah sure they are.

Anyway re : what Zee is saying I think great music is more plentiful and easily available today than at any other point in history obviously due to the power of the internet as a platform it's just - a cliche I know - the mainstream stuff that is gack.

I don't think music is as exciting though. The thing is until very recently music was always going somewhere new. Each new decade brought new technologies and styles of music. Right now we're at a complete saturation point. Everythings been done and becoming harder to invent new ways of making music. All you can do is make it faster and in increasingly absurd subgenres.

You're not going to get the birth of rocknroll again. You're not going to get the dawn of synthesizers and explosion of electronic music again. That's all been done. We're now here in 2011 and we have everything. We have all the available genres and all the available technology. Music just lulls about now being either dreck, decent or somewhere in between.

Absolutely true .....

"Rock musician" is just another career path nowadays .....

[Doogle]

If Blue (Da Ba Dee) was released this year, it'd be dismissed as more dance ****. But loads of people grew up when it was big and the chart wasnt completely filled up with dance **** (well it mightve been around the late 90s/early 00s actually but still) and that makes it seem better than it is. I agree with your points about liking music from when we're younger, Zee. The main reason probably being nostalgia

[Z]

Originally Posted by Doogle

If Blue (Da Ba Dee) was released this year, it'd be dismissed as more dance ****. But loads of people grew up when it was big and the chart wasnt completely filled up with dance **** (well it mightve been around the late 90s/early 00s actually but still) and that makes it seem better than it is. I agree with your points about liking music from when we're younger, Zee. The main reason probably being nostalgia

I imagine in 5 years I'll hear Sexy Bitch - David Guetta somewhere and think "aw yeah this was a tune" but it still doesn't make it any less crap, I'll just be able to tolerate it more. It's the same with anything that is over-exposed; when it finally disappears out of the public conscience it's actually not that bad when you remember it in the future. I could have picked on most of the songs on that list and made the same point. What was so special about the Pussycat Dolls, for example? I could go on...

[Stu]

That list is just a list of number ones. Again the difference between now and then is that great music still cracked the top twenty routinely back then because everyone bought singles. The charts were better in years gone by. Let's broaden our scope a little from 'yeah but Eifel 65 was a number one back then!'.

[bbfan1991]

I don't like Dappy but i'm glad One Direction are knocked off number 1 straightaway.

I love the 90's era of music, era I was born in and the charts were great but now they are crap. I've liked songs that are from the 80's etc and I imagine what growing up in those eras would have been like e.g. experiencing Beatlemania.

[InOne]

Eiffel65

[Chuck]

Eiffel65, Modjo and Shaggy are amazing.

[CaraRawr]

oh for CHRIST'S SAKE.

[Jords]

Originally Posted by Stu

Yeah sure they are.

Anyway re : what Zee is saying I think great music is more plentiful and easily available today than at any other point in history obviously due to the power of the internet as a platform it's just - a cliche I know - the mainstream stuff that is gack.

I don't think music is as exciting though. The thing is until very recently music was always going somewhere new. Each new decade brought new technologies and styles of music. Right now we're at a complete saturation point. Everythings been done and becoming harder to invent new ways of making music. All you can do is make it faster and in increasingly absurd subgenres.

You're not going to get the birth of rocknroll again. You're not going to get the dawn of synthesizers and explosion of electronic music again. That's all been done. We're now here in 2011 and we have everything. We have all the available genres and all the available technology. Music just lulls about now being either dreck, decent or somewhere in between.

Ive often thought this but didnt know how to explain it as well as this.

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by ukturtle

Dappy is going to get a #1. Who is buying this ****?

Youtube video

We might as well make a thread every week about the **** that gets to number 1.

Nothing is going to change!!

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Beastie

We might as well make a thread every week about the **** that gets to number 1.

Nothing is going to change!!

Most I can tolerate, but this is bloody awful.