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Old 26-10-2011, 08:20 PM #1
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Default Why aren't Arron & Harry up?

The votes from the relatives left the housemates with these nominations:

Arron 5
Jem 4
Harry 3
Jay 2
Faye 2

Meaning Jem & Arron were the two with the highest and so they were up.

Now Jem leaves meaning the next two with the highest should be up, Arron & Harry.

But this would mean Aaron or Harry going home, BB doesn't want to lose either so instead they pick everyone with a nom

As far as I know BB have just make up this rubbish to protect Harry & Aaron. What other reasons are there for it not being Aaron & Harry up by themselves?
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Jem walked, so her boyfriends noms were discounted.

Making it

Arron 4
Harry 2
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Jem walked, so her boyfriends noms were discounted.

Making it

Arron 4
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Jay 2
Faye 2
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Jem walked, so her boyfriends noms were discounted.

Making it

Arron 4
Harry 2
Jay 2
Faye 2
Has that ever happened before that you can recall, i mean a walkers noms cancelled?
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Has that ever happened before that you can recall, i mean a walkers noms cancelled?
An eviction has never gone ahead when it was a head to head and one walked either...they have never just moved onto the next person with the most votes. Eviction is canceled usually.

As people keep telling me, they are trying new things.

(I think they should have canceled it altogether, or put the whole house up personally.)

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An eviction has never gone ahead when it was a head to head and one walked either...they have never just moved onto the next person with the most votes. Eviction is canceled usually.

As people keep telling me, they are trying new things.

(I think they should have canceled it altogether, or put the whole house up personally.)
Seems like they could of done any number of things, and found a justification for it though. If it had of been Harry vs Aaron what do you think Aaron fans would of made of it?
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Jem walked, so her boyfriends noms were discounted.

Making it

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Harry 2
Jay 2
Faye 2
How convenient

And Mark's noms were never discounted when he walked, not that it would have made a difference to Faye & Maisy being up, but his noms still stood. C5 never said otherwise.

So they made up this new rule to save Arron & Harry. Wow! This show is turning into a joke.
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How convenient

And Mark's noms were never discounted when he walked, not that it would have made a difference to Faye & Maisy being up, but his noms still stood. C5 never said otherwise.

So they made up this new rule to save Arron & Harry. Wow! This show is turning into a joke.
Well no, not really. They made up a new rule so that they could still rake in money from the votes...when really the eviction should have been cancelled.

It wouldnt have been Aaron V Harry, never before has an eviction moved onto the next highest number when one walks out of a head to head. So no rules were changed to save those two because they wouldnt have been head to head anyway...if they were, that would be a change in the rules in itself too

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Well no, not really. They made up a new rule so that they could still rake in money from the votes...when really the eviction should have been cancelled.

It wouldnt have been Aaron V Harry, never before has an eviction moved onto the next highest number when one walks out of a head to head. So no rules were changed to save those two because they wouldnt have been head to head anyway...if they were, that would be a change in the rules in itself too
I agree about money being the reason for this. I guess exploiting Aaron's fans wasn't earning them enough.

And I guess cancelling it would have been the fair thing to do, but that would have cost C5 a lot.
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How convenient

And Mark's noms were never discounted when he walked, not that it would have made a difference to Faye & Maisy being up, but his noms still stood. C5 never said otherwise.

So they made up this new rule to save Arron & Harry. Wow! This show is turning into a joke.
If they're trying to protect big characters they'd put the whole house up.

Sticking Jay and Faye into the mix still means a big character (at least in terms of house storylines and air time) will be going Friday.
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Wow! This show is turning into a joke.

You catched on quick
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Jem walked, so her boyfriends noms were discounted.

Making it

Arron 4
Harry 2
Jay 2
Faye 2
Is this normal when someone has walked? That their nominations made in the house are discounted?

Were Marks? (He did nom before he went right..? can't remember for sure)
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Is this normal when someone has walked? That their nominations made in the house are discounted?

Were Marks? (He did nom before he went right..? can't remember for sure)
I dont think its happened before. But Marks might have been discounted...even if they were it wouldnt have changed who was up that week so we may not have been told.

However its also never happened before that when a housemate involved in a head to head eviction walks...the next person with the highest vote gets put up either. You would think the whole thing would just be cancelled but they clearly still want vote money this week

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I dont think its happened before. But Marks might have been discounted...even if they were it wouldnt have changed who was up that week so we may not have been told.

However its also never happened before that when a housemate involved in a head to head eviction walks...the next person with the highest vote gets put up either. You would think the whole thing would just be cancelled but they clearly still want vote money this week
But we don't know about Marks?

I would be interested though to find out... it would tell me if this move to put all four of them up was intentioned to protect Aaron and Harry.

(because I do not buy into BB hating Aaron or any other HM... I buy into BB doing whatever is required at any given time to make what they want to be a interesting narrative. Sometimes this benefits a HM, sometimes it dosen't, but I don't accept that there is any other agenda or 'chosen ones')
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But we don't know about Marks?

I would be interested though to find out... it would tell me if this move to put all four of them up was intentioned to protect Aaron and Harry.

(because I do not buy into BB hating Aaron or any other HM... I buy into BB doing whatever is required at any given time to make what they want to be a interesting narrative. Sometimes this benefits a HM, sometimes it dosen't, but I don't accept that there is any other agenda or 'chosen ones')
But its not that. As never before when a housemate who has walked during a head to head eviction, has the eviction changed to being the next person with the highest votes either So its certainly not to protect Harry as he wouldnt have even been up in a head to head. The eviction should be cancelled. But they want cash...I think its really that simple

Plus BB told Jem that if she walked it would be the 4 up too...so it wasnt a last minute panic to try and save Harry either(was shown on BBOTS, dunno if you watch that or not)

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(because I do not buy into BB hating Aaron or any other HM... I buy into BB doing whatever is required at any given time to make what they want to be a interesting narrative. Sometimes this benefits a HM, sometimes it dosen't, but I don't accept that there is any other agenda or 'chosen ones')
I partially agree with this, particularly with the conspiracy types saying Jay is a chosen one etc.. I think this is particularly true with putting him up, knowing there's a fair chance he will go. If they were hell bent on having him in the final, they would have left it at Harry vs Aaron, no questions answered!

The first thing i read from C5, after Jem's leaving was anyone who received a nomination vote would now be up for eviction, and it went on to say because Louise, Tom, Alex did not receive any votes, they will not face a public vote. So it seems to me, the subtracting Jem's BF votes was actually an after thought.

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Is this normal when someone has walked? That their nominations made in the house are discounted?

Were Marks? (He did nom before he went right..? can't remember for sure)
It wasn't normal nominations this week, so it can't really be compared to Mark.
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It wasn't normal nominations this week, so it can't really be compared to Mark.
Ofc it can, noms are noms.

I have never heard of them discounting a HM's noms when they have walked, thats all.
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Ofc it can, noms are noms.

I have never heard of them discounting a HM's noms when they have walked, thats all.
Ever heard of them moving onto the next person with the most because someone has walked? The whole thing has never been done before...usually in this situation the whole eviction would be cancelled.

Anyway, we wont know about Marks...mostly as it would never have changed the result anyway...so there would be no need for them to show his being discounted...

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With Jem leaving they discounted her Bf's votes so Harry, Jay & Faye would all be on 2
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I think it should either be:

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Eviction cancelled
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Preferably one of the latter two
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Why is anyone up, is a better question.
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Should have been eviction cancelled for me, already a housemate has gone, there were no plans for a double eviction this week so this means 2 go in the same week. Ridiculous.

This now means all those who voted for Aaron since Tuesday have to do so again. Totally unfair.

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Should have been eviction cancelled for me, already a housemate has gone, there were no plans for a double eviction this week so this means 2 go in the same week. Ridiculous.

This now means all thosew who voted for Aaron since Tuesday have to do so again. Totally unfair.
People who voted in the Aaron V Jem eviction are being refunded...though god knows how long it will take.

If my votes from the first eviction arent refunded by friday then I wont be voting in this one.
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