[arista]

Pakistan orders U.S. to quit airbase on its land after NATO helicopter attack kills 'up to 28' close to Afghan border
Worst single incident since U.S. and Pakistan became allies
Pakistan says raid is 'attack on its sovereignty'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1eqemcROC



Imran Khan is now Shouting Cut Off America
and he is right.

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You can just imagine what would happen if the situations were reversed and Pakistan was responsible for killing 28 American troops, they'd be preparing for War right now

[Scarlett.]

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Chewy

:bow:

i got an infraction for having this exact same image in my avatar, so are you going to get an infraction for posting it in the forum??

We'll see. If the forum is fair, you will.

[arista]

Originally Posted by lostalex

:bow:

i got an infraction for having this exact same image in my avatar, so are you going to get an infraction for posting it in the forum??

We'll see. If the forum is fair, you will.

Nothing to say about the Topic then?

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by lostalex

:bow:

i got an infraction for having this exact same image in my avatar, so are you going to get an infraction for posting it in the forum??

We'll see. If the forum is fair, you will.

There is a time and a place for everything, even non politically correct cartoons.

In my opinion and it is just my opinion, totally subjective this time of course, this thread is an ideal place for that satirical image.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Shasown

There is a time and a place for everything, even non politically correct cartoons.

In my opinion and it is just my opinion, totally subjective this time of course, this thread is an ideal place for that satirical image.

IC so the rule of no profanity/curse words is entirely subjective? Well then it's not much a rule then, and i should receive an apology for my infraction.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by arista

Nothing to say about the Topic then?

I'll have plenty to say on the topic, once we have the full story. So far we only have the pakistani's side of the story, and i think you can imagine how much credibility they have.

Wouldn't it be nice if the Pakistani's could take care of themselves, and the NATO didn't even need to be dealing with this? WOuldn't it be a lovely world if the pakistani's would stop playing both sides, and NATO could get on with more important work, like protecting rebuilding efforts in afghanistan,m bulding schools and roads...

Unfortunately the pakistani's are duplicitous bastards playing both sides., Pakistan is a military dictatorship, they have proven themselves dubious and un trustworthy since day one.

Where did we find Osama Bin LAden?? oh yea... in PAKISTAN, and not in some random tribal farming village in the middle of nowhere, no, we found him in a city next to Pakistan's biggest military base. WHY DO WE THINK PAKISTAN IS TRUSTWORTHY???
If it were up to me, we'd have invaded pakistan instead of iraq, destroyed all of their nuclear weapons, and then left them to rot in their own filth. It's what they deserve.

[letmein]

The jealously of America continues on this board.

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Originally Posted by letmein

The jealously of America continues on this board.

Yeah we're so jealous that America's killed 28 Pakistanis

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Yeah we're so jealous that America's killed 28 Pakistanis

NATO did actually, and you are part of NATO last time i checked...

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Originally Posted by lostalex

NATO did actually, and you are part of NATO last time i checked...

An American led NATO attack, although I would condemn it which ever country led the attack instead of posting a stupid "the jealousy continues " comment

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by MTVN

An American led NATO attack, although I would condemn it which ever country led the attack instead of posting a stupid "the jealousy continues " comment

oic, "American Led", so what percentage of the killing of pakistani's is the UK responsible for? Since we're going to single each country in NATO out, how much of NATO is the UK, and how much blame does the UK take for this?

I'm interested in knowing.???

how exactly do we break down the responsiblity in percentages?

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by lostalex

oic, "American Led", so what percentage of the killing of pakistani's is the UK responsible for? Since we're going to single each country in NATO out, how much of NATO is the UK, and how much blame does the UK take for this?

I'm interested in knowing.???

how exactly do we break down the responsiblity in percentages?

I'm just going by what it says in the article, and it's America who Pakistan have demanded leave an air base they have there.

But I see you missed my comment "I would condemn it which ever country led the attack", I don't support British involvement in NATO or in the many conflicts we get involved in, unlike you who blindly supports your country be they right or wrong

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I'm just going by what it says in the article, and it's America who Pakistan have demanded leave an air base they have there.

But I see you missed my comment "I would condemn it which ever country led the attack", I don't support British involvement in NATO or in the many conflicts we get involved in, unlike you who blindly supports your country be they right or wrong

I don't blindly support anything, and that was incredibly rude and condescending to say.

I certainly didn't support the Iraq war.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I don't blindly support anything, and that was incredibly rude and condescending to say.

I certainly didn't support the Iraq war.

Not as rude as you calling me an idiot in the other thread And I said that because you still don't seem to think America was really at fault here, you've tried blaming the Pakistanis for supposedly hiding Bin Laden and you've tried deflecting responsibility to NATO in general but still no word of condemnation

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Not as rude as you calling me an idiot in the other thread And I said that because you still don't seem to think America was really at fault here, you've tried blaming the Pakistanis for supposedly hiding Bin Laden and you've tried deflecting responsibility to NATO in general but still no word of condemnation

Amerivca is no more at fault than the Uk or Australia, funny i don't see you blaming Australia much for the Iraq war though, geee, i wonder why???

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Amerivca is no more at fault than the Uk or Australia, funny i don't see you blaming Australia much for the Iraq war though, geee, i wonder why???

Because.. I'm Australian

You're being ridiculous, I was clearly referring specifically to this attack, which was American led whether you want to acknowledge it or not, if you want to talk about the Iraq war then I will condemn Britain, America, Australia, Spain, Italy and any other country that played any part in it

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Because.. I'm Australian

You're being ridiculous, I was clearly referring specifically to this attack, which was American led whether you want to acknowledge it or not, if you want to talk about the Iraq war then I will condemn Britain, America, Australia, Spain, Italy and any other country that played any part in it

and you don't find it at all odd, that when it's not America at fault, it's just called a NATO strike, but when America is involved it's called a "US LED" strike? you don't see how racist that is??? REALLY?

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Originally Posted by lostalex

and you don't find it at all odd, that when it's not America at fault, it's just called a NATO strike, but when America is involved it's called a "US LED" strike? you don't see how racist that is??? REALLY?

Racist? It isn't racist. And this isn't something unique to America either, it was NATO who imposed a no-fly zone over Libya yet Britain and France were leading the attacks, and to a lesser extent America, so it was thought of as British/French led attacks, the same way this was an American led attack

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Racist? It isn't racist. And this isn't something unique to America either, it was NATO who imposed a no-fly zone over Libya yet Britain and France were leading the attacks, and to a lesser extent America, so it was thought of as British/French led attacks, the same way this was an American led attack

It wasn't an "attack" though, it was a RESPONSE after NATO forces were fired upon.

Now whether they were fired upon by the pakistani's or by al-queada in the area trying to fool NATO, we don't know yet, but certainly Pakistan should be squashing any al-queada insurgents in the area, so it begs the question, why isn't Pakistan doing it's job???

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by lostalex

It wasn't an "attack" though, it was a RESPONSE after NATO forces were fired upon.

Now whether they were fired upon by the pakistani's or by al-queada in the area trying to fool NATO, we don't know yet, but certainly Pakistan should be squashing any al-queada insurgents in the area, so it begs the question, why isn't Pakistan doing it's job???

That doesn't justify it, in their statement Nato even said it was "tragic and unintended". In any case, Pakistan is rightly pissed off and America is looking likely to lose one of it's most compliant and willing allies in a region where they're treated with hostility

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by MTVN

That doesn't justify it, in their statement Nato even said it was "tragic and unintended". In any case, Pakistan is rightly pissed off and America is looking likely to lose one of it's most compliant and willing allies in a region where they're treated with hostility

of course it is tragic and unintended, that doesn't mean that it isn't JUSTIFIED though.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by lostalex

of course it is tragic and unintended, that doesn't mean that it isn't JUSTIFIED though.

Well I guess that's where we differ, I don't think that killing 28 Pakistani soldiers is justified, and I haven't seen anything to suggest there was suitable provocation for doing it