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Shasown · 14-12-2011, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Omah

I'm sorry - I can no longer help you if you fail to understand the concept of semantics .....

Thats okay you have never really been of much help anyway.

As I said earlier no need to apologise

Pyramid* · 14-12-2011, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown

Careful now you could end up on young Sam's "to sue" list

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wa...name_page.html

LOL...... Mabye I should just refer to him as dickhead, that's far more appropriate, all thing considered.

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Originally Posted by Christmas Neeve

Fine, look at the final point on that list, "boy" is Cork slang, if you're allowed to use Scottish slang, I'm allowed use Corkonian slang

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Travel-g1...ork.Slang.html

I understand what you are saying - similar to the word 'lad' being regarded as a younger person when in fact it could and often does, refer to fully grown adults. Just as the word 'Lass' is used in the same manner.

It's just that when I see the word 'boy' used with this type of story: some (and I say some, not all) will focus on it being akin to some 'little boy' - rather than the adult that he actually is.

Shasown · 14-12-2011, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowball

LOL...... Mabye I should just refer to him as dickhead, that's far more appropriate, all thing considered.

Yes it is.

Niamh. · 14-12-2011, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowball

LOL...... Mabye I should just refer to him as dickhead, that's far more appropriate, all thing considered.

I understand what you are saying - similar to the word 'lad' being regarded as a younger person when in fact it could and often does, refer to fully grown adults. Just as the word 'Lass' is used in the same manner.

It's just that when I see the word 'boy' used with this type of story: some (and I say some, not all) will focus on it being akin to some 'little boy' - rather than the adult that he actually is.

Well, his age has been posted numerous times on this thread, I'm sure everyone involved in the discussion is well aware that he's not a little boy. But I will continue to refer to him as Boy as I would any other 19 year old

Pyramid* · 14-12-2011, 03:26 PM

Now I know this is a serious debate: would it be utter and wholly inappropriate to post this - seeing as we now all seem to be going around in circles??.....

Spoiler:

Tom4784 · 14-12-2011, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Omah

Exactly, you were remiss in your interpretation.

If you keep grasping at those straws you'll break them.

arista · 14-12-2011, 03:27 PM

The lad that Filmed it was just on Radio 5

He said after he was removed they all started talking
one bloke was a Lawyer he gave his card to the big man.

Also this went on for 10mins
even before he started his mobile to film it.

Pyramid* · 14-12-2011, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Christmas Neeve

Well, his age has been posted numerous times on this thread, I'm sure everyone involved in the discussion is well aware that he's not a little boy. But I will continue to refer to him as Boy as I would any other 19 year old

Fair comment, I can call him Boyo then

Benjamin · 14-12-2011, 03:29 PM

In my view he is still a boy. He is by no means a young adult if he is still behaving like that.

Pyramid* · 14-12-2011, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

The lad that Filmed it was just on Radio 5

He said after he was removed they all started talking
one bloke was a Lawyer he gave his card to the big man.

Also this went on for 10mins
even before he started his mobile to film it.

LOL..... never one to miss making a buck or two them lawyers eh.... !!!

I like the final part here: that it went of for 10mins prior to it being filmed.

I'd love to hear the full story.

Niamh. · 14-12-2011, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowball

Fair comment, I can call him Boyo then

You may

Pyramid* · 14-12-2011, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by God

In my view he is still a boy. He is by no means a young adult if he is still behaving like that.

I agree with you in that he is acting like a boy - but when it suits him, equally, he's happy to act like an adult when he wants to out drinking beers.

Pyramid* · 14-12-2011, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Christmas Neeve

You may

This is meant to be a thread to argue on supposedly....there is far too much agreeing going on here......

*must give myself a good talking to*

Omah · 14-12-2011, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

The lad that Filmed it was just on Radio 5

He said after he was removed they all started talking
one bloke was a Lawyer he gave his card to the big man.

Also this went on for 10mins
even before he started his mobile to film it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...ntral-16177725

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Mr Main told BBC Radio Scotland's Call Kaye programme: "I was given no time to explain myself. It wasn't even an argument.

"There was a discussion with me trying to explain myself for about a minute and then the conductor started shouting at me," he said.

10 minutes or 1 ?

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He also said he was diabetic, had not eaten much all day and had not slept the night before because he had been studying.

The student admitted he had been drinking before the incident, but said he was not drunk.

Diabetic, drinking on an empty stomach - does he even remember what he was doing on the train ?

Vicky. · 14-12-2011, 03:59 PM

Might have seemed like a minute to the lad, but seemed like 10 to those waiting...I know when Im in a queue in the bank or something im probably only there for 2 mins or so but it feels like half an hour

Jack_ · 14-12-2011, 04:08 PM

No problem with the addition of a poll, never thought of adding one myself

I sincerely hope anyone that advocates the actions of this 'big man' never has (or already has) children, as teaching them that using violent methods as ways to achieve what you want is right is only going to lead to more violence and more crime. It is never right (unless in self defence) and there are no excuses for it, by agreeing with it you are advocating and promoting actions of violence as something that should be used even more commonly than I assume it already is. Christ...some people just don't understand the repercussions of their quite frankly idiotic views, and it's a real shame as it'll only lead to worse things.

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Originally Posted by Snowball

People should not be expected to have to put up verbally abuse in their workplace.

And passengers of a train service should not be expected to be manhandled by fellow passengers who are in no position whatsoever to do so, whichever way you cut it he used physical force to remove him and therefore it is a form of assault.

Pyramid* · 14-12-2011, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Omah

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...ntral-16177725

10 minutes or 1 ?

Diabetic, drinking on an empty stomach - does he even remember what he was doing on the train ?

Ten minutes or one minute?

Does he even remember what he was doing?

Is he an adult or not?

Did he have one bag or was he laden down with several prior to going in for his exam?

Did he lie to the conductor about having a correct ticket?

Did he lie to his father about not being given his bag?

Did he buy 2 single tickets or did he lie.

So many questions....not enough answers.......

Pyramid* · 14-12-2011, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_

No problem with the addition of a poll, never thought of adding one myself

I sincerely hope anyone that advocates the actions of this 'big man' never has (or already has) children, as teaching them that using violent methods as ways to achieve what you want is right is only going to lead to more violence and more crime. It is never right (unless in self defence) and there are no excuses for it, by agreeing with it you are advocating and promoting actions of violence as something that should be used even more commonly than I assume it already is. Christ...some people just don't understand the repercussions of their quite frankly idiotic views, and it's a real shame as it'll only lead to worse things.

And passengers of a train service should not be expected to be manhandled by fellow passengers who are in no position whatsoever to do so, whichever way you cut it he used physical force to remove him and therefore it is a form of assault.

On the contrary Jack, I hope the lesson learned for anyone who has children or intends to have children - is to raise them to have basic morals and values. To raise them to be honest, not to lie, to act responsibly if you have diabetes . To eat before ANY drinking (which is best avoided with diabetes), to be respectful, to not be verbally abusive to those in their workplace and to follow instructions.

LeatherTrumpet · 14-12-2011, 04:16 PM

There is no debate amongst adults

the little brat got what he deserved and you will too if you come like that in Scotland

Shasown · 14-12-2011, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

There is no debate amongst adults

the little brat got what he deserved and you will too if you come like that in Scotland

Once again you pop on to post complete and utter drivel.

I have lived in Scotland for a good number of years now and still havent got what i deserve.

Where is the huge lottery win and gorgeous blonde?

Just goes to show Scotland isnt the land of milk and honey you would have us believe it is.

arista · 14-12-2011, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

There is no debate amongst adults

the little brat got what he deserved and you will too if you come like that in Scotland

Its gone Global

And Now on all UK News

Jack_ · 14-12-2011, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowball

On the contrary Jack, I hope the lesson learned for anyone who has children or intends to have children - is to raise them to have basic morals and values. To raise them to be honest, not to lie, to act responsibly if you have diabetes . To eat before ANY drinking (which is best avoided with diabetes), to be respectful, to not be verbally abusive to those in their workplace and to follow instructions.

And I have never once disagreed with those basil moral principles either, all children should be raised by parents with that in mind, but also along with the notion that violence and acts of physical force are wrong and should never be used unless in self defence. Anybody that fails to recognise either or both of these isn't fit to be a parent, and I hope they never are one, or aren't one already.

Pyramid* · 14-12-2011, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_

And I have never once disagreed with those basil moral principles either, all children should be raised by parents with that in mind, but also along with the notion that violence and acts of physical force are wrong and should never be used unless in self defence. Anybody that fails to recognise either or both of these isn't fit to be a parent, and I hope they never are one, or aren't one already.

Therefore going by what you have said, the yob's parents are not fit to be parents.

So not only do we have his parents that you regards as bein unfit, we also have the youb as consequence of their bad parenting.....