[alex_front2]

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/256465

looks as MrPatronising Porn star isnt as reasonable or mature as we thought.

[armand.kay]

This paper is pathetic...

[fruit_cake]

I don't see what's bad about that he was just having a joke imo

[Zincubus]

Originally Posted by alex_front2

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/256465

looks as MrPatronising Porn star isnt as reasonable or mature as we thought.

As a porn star he's presumably seen and done things us mere mortals will never experience ( thankfully) , he should be very open minded ...

[Jords]

[smeagol]

thats the problem with having luke in there. the sympathy vote and walking on egg shells.
He is prime foder for a joke. if its not nasty i see no problem.

[MrWong]

So the joke wasn't aimed at Luke and Luke wasn't even there when it happened?

A complete none story from the grubby little tabloid then.

Figures

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by MrWong

So the joke wasn't aimed at Luke and Luke wasn't even there when it happened?

A complete none story from the grubby little tabloid then.

Figures

This tbh.

[Lister of Smeg]

oh dear the pc brigade will be out in force pretending to be outraged .

[BBUKAUSFAN]

love how Victoria is trying to get her name out there poor old lady should go back to her dogs and lock her self away! only making a bigger fool of her self

[newsbb]

i think this is pure BS.

[HBB1508]

Meh total non event trying to stir up interest - I can't see Luke A taking any offence at that - blimey Freddie Starr did it on camera in come dine with me - so what?????

[fruit_cake]

it reminds me of the scene in Silence of the Lambs so I'm not sure Benedict is doing himself any favours but if anything it's the Daily Star who is transphobic trying to stir up trouble for Luke A when there is none.

[lostalex]

I don't see how it's transphobic as he wasn't directing his actions at luke or transexuals in general. If he had been saying how disgusting it was or something like that then it would be transphobic, but it doesn't sound like that's what he was doing.

What is transphobic is the people here some how turning this against Luke A and saying Luke A is some how causing problems by being a transgendered person.

[Livia]

The Daily Star really is a rag... the "joke" wasn't aimed at Luke - he wasn't even there, didn't see it and presumably his name was not mentioned. Pathetic... Most balanced people wouldn't give his sexuality a second thought once they'd got over the initial knowledge.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Livia

The Daily Star really is a rag... the "joke" wasn't aimed at Luke - he wasn't even there, didn't see it and presumably his name was not mentioned. Pathetic... Most balanced people wouldn't give his sexuality a second thought once they'd got over the initial knowledge.

Transgender has nothing to do with sexuality. There are str8 transgenders and gay transgenders, as far as i know Luka A. is str8 right?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Transgender has nothing to do with sexuality. There are str8 transgenders and gay transgenders, as far as i know Luka A. is str8 right?

Yeah, my mistake. It's a bit of a minefield. You know what I mean though, I hope.

[*mazedsalv**]

How pathetic... it wasn't about Luke

[spitfire]

He should be given an infraction.

[Vicky.]

Good god what a load of bollocks

Luke wasnt even there, I (unfortunately) know quite a few lads who think doing that kind of thing is funny and do it to get a laugh out of other simple minds folk...its not that uncommon

It could be viewed as a dig if he was prancing round with his shlong between his legs shouting 'look I'm luke' or something, but from this (non) story it doesnt seem that way at all

[Jake.]

Can this 'news paper' sink any lower? Probably not, its already at rock bottom. Pathetic excuse for a tabloid.

[cfromhx02]

Originally Posted by JH95

Can this 'news paper' sink any lower? Probably not, its already at rock bottom. Pathetic excuse for a tabloid.

It's not the Paper.

Can you or any of the other excusers for trans jokes which are obviously based on transphobia sink any lower ?
Stop making excuses for ignorance and prejudice. Whoever he meant it at,
and more probability he meant it to have something to do with Luke A than he did not, it was still an anti trans joke.

Trans people and others who are decent are sick of people thinking it's ok to use them as something to call freaks or to have a laugh at.

We don't deride you and poke fun at you now do we ?

It was bigotry pure and simple.
And it's serious cos for some who carry out that just as a joke
they can physically attack even murder when they've had something to drink.

A lot of TS s have been attacked/murdered in UK and his or you yourself's bigotry cannot be let off the hook
or excused away as just a joke or it was the papers fault etc.

Ignorant people need educating if they'll care enough about others esp when they are attacked/murdered to listen.

If they don 't listen then they should be treated with disdain

and maybe Benedict should be booted off the prog to show Channel 5 is not ok with bigotry against TS s
just as has been done by CH 4 in past over racism,

but I guess he won't be as TS s are the most bigoted against group these days

and they'd be worried about losing the viewers who enjoy treating us as freaks and having a laugh at us (excusing their own bigotry not being mature enough to admit behind the scenes).

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

It's not the Paper.

Can you or any of the other excusers for trans jokes which are obviously based on transphobia sink any lower ?
Stop making excuses for ignorance and prejudice. Whoever he meant it at,
and more probability he meant it to have something to do with Luke A than he did not, it was still an anti trans joke.

Trans people and others who are decent are sick of people thinking it's ok to use them as something to call freaks or to have a laugh at.

We don't deride you and poke fun at you now do we ?

It was bigotry pure and simple.
And it's serious cos for some who carry out that just as a joke
they can physically attack even murder when they've had something to drink.

A lot of TS s have been attacked/murdered in UK and his or you yourself's bigotry cannot be let off the hook
or excused away as just a joke or it was the papers fault etc.

Ignorant people need educating if they'll care enough about others esp when they are attacked/murdered to listen.

If they don 't listen then they should be treated with disdain

and maybe Benedict should be booted off the prog to show Channel 5 is not ok with bigotry against TS s
just as has been done by CH 4 in past over racism,

but I guess he won't be as TS s are the most bigoted against group these days

and they'd be worried about losing the viewers who enjoy treating us as freaks and having a laugh at us (excusing their own bigotry not being mature enough to admit behind the scenes).

It was just a joke. I've heard far worse at my workplace!

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

It's not the Paper.

Can you or any of the other excusers for trans jokes which are obviously based on transphobia sink any lower ?
Stop making excuses for ignorance and prejudice. Whoever he meant it at,
and more probability he meant it to have something to do with Luke A than he did not, it was still an anti trans joke.

Trans people and others who are decent are sick of people thinking it's ok to use them as something to call freaks or to have a laugh at.

We don't deride you and poke fun at you now do we ?

It was bigotry pure and simple.
And it's serious cos for some who carry out that just as a joke
they can physically attack even murder when they've had something to drink.

A lot of TS s have been attacked/murdered in UK and his or you yourself's bigotry cannot be let off the hook
or excused away as just a joke or it was the papers fault etc.

Ignorant people need educating if they'll care enough about others esp when they are attacked/murdered to listen.

If they don 't listen then they should be treated with disdain

and maybe Benedict should be booted off the prog to show Channel 5 is not ok with bigotry against TS s
just as has been done by CH 4 in past over racism,

but I guess he won't be as TS s are the most bigoted against group these days

and they'd be worried about losing the viewers who enjoy treating us as freaks and having a laugh at us (excusing their own bigotry not being mature enough to admit behind the scenes).

..but surely that's what Luke being in the house will do...none of us know exactly what Benedict did or in what context but surely if he was being offensive then he needs educating not thrown out of the house

[cfromhx02]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..but surely that's what Luke being in the house will do...none of us know exactly what Benedict did or in what context but surely if he was being offensive then he needs educating not thrown out of the house

True. And I used to agree.

I used to think people (most of the public) who know almost nothing about why someone is TS or not, needed to be educated, and myself and others have tried patiently to educate them.

But now I feel after years trying to educate some (that yes while some are decent and will listen to find out about the truth IE the brain studies etc and that we can't help but have to change our outer appearance). I've found that many don't want to listen or be educated.

So because some of the supposed just joking and the bigotry behind it leads to attacks or murder for some of us.

Those that don't want to listen or be educated need

it to be made more clear to them, maybe by seeing Benedict chucked out

and then it can be talked about on bit on the side etc why that was necessary.

IE Because some don't want to listen or be educated

and we need to make it clear that what most see as just joking has bigotry behind it and Trans people have been attacked and murdered.