[Bluerang1]

Luke A's hips are so feminine, gives away that he used to be a girl. Anyone else notice the hips?

[Maia]

Hm can't say I've noticed

[lostalex]

I'm not transphobic, but as a gay man, when i look at him, i just see a lesbian. I'm not attracted to him at all.

[smeagol]

those hips dont lie

[lostalex]

It's weird though because i do think the idea of a guy with a vagina is hot. If Arron had a vagina i'd still think Arron was hot, and i'd really wanna **** him. That would be super hot.

but i don't see Luka A. as a guy with a vagina, i see him as a girl without breasts.

Do you think that makes me transphobic?

[Cherie]

[QUOTE=lostalex;5220920]It's weird though because i do think the idea of a guy with a vagina is hot. If Arron had a vagina i'd still think Arron was hot, and i'd really wanna **** him. That would be super hot.

but i don't see Luka A. as a guy with a vagina, i see him as a girl without breasts.

Do you think that makes me transphobic?[/QUOTE]

Dont really care what it makes you to be honest.... We are here to talk about Luke A's hips...all in all Ive not seen enough of him standing up to notice his hips...

[smeagol]

Originally Posted by lostalex

If Arron had a vagina i'd still think Arron was hot, and i'd really wanna **** him. That would be super hot.

but i don't see Luka A. as a guy with a vagina, i see him as a girl without breasts.

Do you think that makes me transphobic?

arron does have one at least i think so cause everyone seems to call him C---t lol

[Josy]

Haven't noticed

[Yayita]

Originally Posted by lostalex

It's weird though because i do think the idea of a guy with a vagina is hot. If Arron had a vagina i'd still think Arron was hot, and i'd really wanna **** him. That would be super hot.

but i don't see Luka A. as a guy with a vagina, i see him as a girl without breasts.

Do you think that makes me transphobic?

It makes you hilarious LOL.. but what you say makes sense in a weird way. i do admit tha when I first saw Luke A, I thought he was a guy because the voice is very masculine. Looking at his face and lower body you can still see a girl in there.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I'm not transphobic, but as a gay man, when i look at him, i just see a lesbian. I'm not attracted to him at all.

Alex you have just spent the last 5 days lecturing me that Luke a was a MAN, now you say to everyone else you see him as a Lesbian. Last time I consulted the dictionary Lesbians were defined as WOMEN THAT PREFERED WOMEN.

Now I am really confussed, have I been missing something.

[Petershaw1984]

Nothing short of hilarious lostalex, love it

[Scream]

well i am only 16 but i'm quite skinny so i guess i have 'feminine' hips but i'm not a girl, i swear!!

[Marc]

Originally Posted by smeagol

those hips dont lie

[Jords]

Not noticed.

Originally Posted by lostalex

It's weird though because i do think the idea of a guy with a vagina is hot. If Arron had a vagina i'd still think Arron was hot, and i'd really wanna **** him. That would be super hot.

but i don't see Luka A. as a guy with a vagina, i see him as a girl without breasts.

Do you think that makes me transphobic?

Not transphobic but sort of seems like you pick and choose with what suits you.

[Marc]

You sound easy tbh lol

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Jords

Not noticed.



Not transphobic but sort of seems like you pick and choose with what suits you.

Thats what I was trying to say but I was worried I might get an infraction. I think he just likes a good fight and dosent care who with as long as he keeps coming back for more.

[jaythegeek]

Well I am trans. I noticed the hips, but seriously give the lad a break! Its not our fault we were born with womens hips. Unfortunately T injections can only do so much.

[cfromhx02]

Originally Posted by jaythegeek

Well I am trans. I noticed the hips, but seriously give the lad a break! Its not our fault we were born with womens hips. Unfortunately T injections can only do so much.

Yes and I'm trans too. No it's NOT hilarious to say she saw him as a woman without breasts.

I'll try to explain the difference between Gender and sex again.Gender is about identity and what gender a specific part of the brain is (which gender's feelings and thought processes come from there).

It has NOTHING to do with body shaping which only comes from INCORRECTLY formed sexual organs.Hopefully people will listen this time.

Gender is in the brain.There is a part of the brain which is known to light up in tests mostly as either female or male.

I bet Luke was born with a male brain so he has ALWAYS been male.That is where his identity comes from, the way he thinks about things (ie in a male way) and his feelings (IE male) come from that part of the brain which is primarily male.

The term used nowadays is Gender Identity. You have to prove you have a Gender Identity issue first (and I promise they don't have cross examine you for it) before they allow you to continue with the rest of the process.It's called Gender Identity.

Because Gender is about Identity firstly and that comes from that part of the brain I told you about that is primarily designed as male or female. Gender Identity is not the same as sexuality. It is only about what Gender you mentally identify as.

It has nothing to do with sexual organs.

When someone is incorrectly born with the wrong organs.

Honestly all it takes is stress on the father's side to f up one of the chromosomes at conception.

You then have someone with the brain of the other gender (in Luke's case male) trapped inside the body of the other gender.Because Identity once again comes from the brain.

And I've said this before too, the body is only shaped by hormones from the incorrectly created sexual organs so therefore trans people can't help being born with the feelings and thought processes of the other gender and be trapped (like a curse) in the wrong body.

And then we have to explain over and over to people who won't listen what has really happened and how we've been trapped and are trying to break free from our shell because of it.

I don't think lostalex is by anyway the worst when it comes to not being able to fully accept someone for their true identity IE what they are in their brain, but her saying she saw Luke as a woman without breasts did show a problem accepting it.

And others were far worse here.And no it isn't f hilarious.How would yo0u like being trapped in the wrong body and having to explain so many f times what r goes on and hardly anyone takes it on board and knowing that you and most TS s waste 30 odd years of their life's putting off transition after they decide because they know they will get ignorance and bigotry from so many people.

30 odd years of our lives are wasted when we did nothing wrong in the first place and have always had the brain so therefore identity of the other gender and always been trapped in the shell prison of the other gender, and we put it off because we knew we would get so much ignorance and bigotry and people because of their uncomfortableness with it won't listen and they won 't admit to being uncomfortable with it and showing they have a phobia with it.Is that f hilarious.No it isn't.

lostalex is by no means the worst but her and other far worse comments on here and so many times before have given yet another person who won't listen an excuse to justify his prejudice and come back again IE sampvt.

Any chance some of you have listened and realize that gender identity comes from the brain, it doesn't matter what the body looks like, and that all trans whether trans men or women have been trapped cruelly in the wrong body all their life.Any chance some of you will realize that is not f funny and not funny that most of us put off being free and going through transition to match our bodies to our brains feelings and thoughts because we know how much ignorance and bigotry we will face.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

Yes and I'm trans too. No it's NOT hilarious to say she saw him as a woman without breasts.

I'll try to explain the difference between Gender and sex again.Gender is about identity and what gender a specific part of the brain is (which gender's feelings and thought processes come from there).

It has NOTHING to do with body shaping which only comes from INCORRECTLY formed sexual organs.Hopefully people will listen this time.

Gender is in the brain.There is a part of the brain which is known to light up in tests mostly as either female or male.

I bet Luke was born with a male brain so he has ALWAYS been male.That is where his identity comes from, the way he thinks about things (ie in a male way) and his feelings (IE male) come from that part of the brain which is primarily male.

The term used nowadays is Gender Identity. You have to prove you have a Gender Identity issue first (and I promise they don't have cross examine you for it) before they allow you to continue with the rest of the process.It's called Gender Identity.

Because Gender is about Identity firstly and that comes from that part of the brain I told you about that is primarily designed as male or female. Gender Identity is not the same as sexuality. It is only about what Gender you mentally identify as.

It has nothing to do with sexual organs.

When someone is incorrectly born with the wrong organs.

Honestly all it takes is stress on the father's side to f up one of the chromosomes at conception.

You then have someone with the brain of the other gender (in Luke's case male) trapped inside the body of the other gender.Because Identity once again comes from the brain.

And I've said this before too, the body is only shaped by hormones from the incorrectly created sexual organs so therefore trans people can't help being born with the feelings and thought processes of the other gender and be trapped (like a curse) in the wrong body.

And then we have to explain over and over to people who won't listen what has really happened and how we've been trapped and are trying to break free from our shell because of it.

I don't think lostalex is by anyway the worst when it comes to not being able to fully accept someone for their true identity IE what they are in their brain, but her saying she saw Luke as a woman without breasts did show a problem accepting it.

And others were far worse here.And no it isn't f hilarious.How would yo0u like being trapped in the wrong body and having to explain so many f times what r goes on and hardly anyone takes it on board and knowing that you and most TS s waste 30 odd years of their life's putting off transition after they decide because they know they will get ignorance and bigotry from so many people.

30 odd years of our lives are wasted when we did nothing wrong in the first place and have always had the brain so therefore identity of the other gender and always been trapped in the shell prison of the other gender, and we put it off because we knew we would get so much ignorance and bigotry and people because of their uncomfortableness with it won't listen and they won 't admit to being uncomfortable with it and showing they have a phobia with it.Is that f hilarious.No it isn't.

lostalex is by no means the worst but her and other far worse comments on here and so many times before have given yet another person who won't listen an excuse to justify his prejudice and come back again IE sampvt.

Any chance some of you have listened and realize that gender identity comes from the brain, it doesn't matter what the body looks like, and that all trans whether trans men or women have been trapped cruelly in the wrong body all their life.Any chance some of you will realize that is not f funny and not funny that most of us put off being free and going through transition to match our bodies to our brains feelings and thoughts because we know how much ignorance and bigotry we will face.

Cfromhx2
If I have offended you in anyway, I truly apologise. I am not about to defend myself nor am I about to try to explain my position in life either, I will however state for the umpteenth time, that I am not homophobic nor am i transphobic, in fact I am not phobic in anywaywhichor. I do however take umbrage against what I call cyber bullies, these are people that wont let anyone have their views or opinions if they conflict with theirs.

There are some people on here with thousands of hours posting that feel they can get away with anything. One minute they are making a big thing about lesser informed people like myself calling luke a she in the context of explaining something and then several days later, they come on here and call luke a lesbian and a woman with no breasts. If that makes sence to you then you are a better person than I am.

If truth be known the one thing in all of this that really pisses me off is how Luke has come on national tv proclaiming everything is right and all he wants is money to finish the job. My problem is he dosent act, look or even come accross as a man, he is a very poor interpretaion of one. I am not privy to details of his real private life nor do I know his age but reports in the papers show him dressed as quite an attractive female with makeup and out on the town. This is but only a few years ago. Surely if he was a man as he states, why would he demean himself and dress as a woman, decline to take the phyc tests and refuse to apply for gender re asignment the correct way. His situation smacks of a DIY job and now he openly admits that he is on BB to fund the rest of his operations.

I am having a hard time dislikeing this individual but at the same time he gives nobody a real need to defend his case. He (in my eyes) looks, acts and talks like a woman or more correctly a butch lesbian. On your travels you will have seen plenty of people like Luke, should I be reconstructing my views to accept him as one of the norm or is the jury still out on whether he is 100% genuine. I am not totally convinced and judging by the reaction of this and other forums, there are a lot that feel the same.

[Robertocarlo]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I'm not transphobic, but as a gay man, when i look at him, i just see a lesbian. I'm not attracted to him at all.

I totally agree, also as a Gay man. Regarding the hips I too noticed that they were not male, far to wide. I have a real problem getting my head around him especially as he's still basically female with most of his female "bits" intact.

[Robertocarlo]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Cfromhx2
If I have offended you in anyway, I truly apologise. I am not about to defend myself nor am I about to try to explain my position in life either, I will however state for the umpteenth time, that I am not homophobic nor am i transphobic, in fact I am not phobic in anywaywhichor. I do however take umbrage against what I call cyber bullies, these are people that wont let anyone have their views or opinions if they conflict with theirs.

There are some people on here with thousands of hours posting that feel they can get away with anything. One minute they are making a big thing about lesser informed people like myself calling luke a she in the context of explaining something and then several days later, they come on here and call luke a lesbian and a woman with no breasts. If that makes sence to you then you are a better person than I am.

If truth be known the one thing in all of this that really pisses me off is how Luke has come on national tv proclaiming everything is right and all he wants is money to finish the job. My problem is he dosent act, look or even come accross as a man, he is a very poor interpretaion of one. I am not privy to details of his real private life nor do I know his age but reports in the papers show him dressed as quite an attractive female with makeup and out on the town. This is but only a few years ago. Surely if he was a man as he states, why would he demean himself and dress as a woman, decline to take the phyc tests and refuse to apply for gender re asignment the correct way. His situation smacks of a DIY job and now he openly admits that he is on BB to fund the rest of his operations.

I am having a hard time dislikeing this individual but at the same time he gives nobody a real need to defend his case. He (in my eyes) looks, acts and talks like a woman or more correctly a butch lesbian. On your travels you will have seen plenty of people like Luke, should I be reconstructing my views to accept him as one of the norm or is the jury still out on whether he is 100% genuine. I am not totally convinced and judging by the reaction of this and other forums, there are a lot that feel the same.

As a Gay man myself and like you certainly not "phobic" I applaud what you say in your defence and also respect your right to say it. Take no notice of those over twichy, ultra PC tw*ts on here who like to bully people into silence.

[Jackie]

Yep i noticed weeks ago

[Livia]

Yes, luke has a relatively female shape from certain angles, but I have to say, whenever he's on the screen I don't think about the fact he was born female. He just seems like a male to me.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Livia

Yes, luke has a relatively female shape from certain angles, but I have to say, whenever he's on the screen I don't think about the fact he was born female. He just seems like a male to me.

Same

[AshesonMars]

To be fair to the guy, he's still transitioning. I think people forget that point. Some of you are talking as if he'd had full reassignment years ago. He hasn't yet and it's a process that takes years. Personally, I don't think he is doing a bad job at passing as male, but to each their own. I don't see him as female at all.

It is cruel to have to go through life with a male brain, but a female body. The same as people who have a female brain, but a male body.

No one asks to be transgendered and those who mock transgendered people or who claim to not 'get it', even though it's not that difficult to understand, should be thankful it didn't happen to them.