[Jords]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Well obviously the girls were in the right, I don't think there's any denying that Arron and Conor are two silly little boys, but from what I've seen this week they seem to be contributing a lot and it'd be very stupid to want them out or indeed to have them evicted.

Remember we're trying to cause conflict, not prevent it.

The eviction of 1 of them will completely shake the house. And remember 1 will stay with Caroline, Shievonne and Ashleigh all stepping up as bitches, especially Caroline she will have a meltdown.

tbh I LOVE Lydia and Benedict, and Chris, and they were huge characters, but the drama has continued with other HMs emerging with loads of potential.

The casting has been great. I do think Sara and Luke A are a bit too pointless though, as much as I like them.

[dyfed]

Well that was the final nail in their coffin,what a disgrace,how anyone could justify or excuse them for their behavior tonight or support them,is beyond me.
Their both a poor excuse for a man,their parents must be very proud....

[kistar]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I agree it wasn't nice to see,I also think the guys were wrong too however I have seen females sit on the floor by choice in previous BBs. I do think that the girls should have been offered the seats, they could have sat on the sides of the chair,it may well be that they didn't want to sit alongside the guys though,these people really dislike each other.

While it would be my way certainly to have offered the girls the chair, it still does amaze me slightly that people think still that women should always have the seat and men stand or go on the floor.

Its good manners for a man to offer his seat to a lady who may have to stand or sit on the floor .... obviously

[Jords]

Originally Posted by Novo

The Superb Six fighting against Evil Jords and his forces of evil

Will be embarrassing when I beat you all

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by kistar

Its good manners for a man to offer his seat to a lady who may have to stand or sit on the floor .... obviously

So, I said that and said 'I' would but I still ask why in this day and age is it expected that it always happens that way.
Why should it be that men always have to sit on the floor or stand for women,most of my female friends prefer and choose to be on the floor and they wouldn't automatically expect to be offered seats anyway.

I would offer them a seat but I have actually on public transport offered my seat to a woman who fired back,''I am perfectly capable of standing''.

Good manners goes 2 ways not just one way.

[Jords]

I know its hard to stop supporting a HM youve liked for ages but sometimes they just become to ***** and irritating and vile. Let them go.

[Novo]

Originally Posted by Jords

Will be embarrassing when I beat you all

Not really bothered as long as Luke S, Lauren or Arron win.. if Deana wins i suppose that will make it 1-1 though after Lord Aaron's victory

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Jords

I know its hard to stop supporting a HM youve liked for ages but sometimes they just become to ***** and irritating and vile. Let them go.

No, my loyalty isn't as shallow as that.
Once I give it,even though I may not approve or agree with some actions of people,I still hold onto what I have formed as an overall opinion of them and don't turn away on whims.

[WozMan]

TBH I was quite neutral on Arron until this week. He's really gone off the deep end though since he got nominated.

And he WAS giving Deana the finger behind her back almost as soon as the tape rolled. Any nasty comments Deana has EVER made have been in response to nastiness from Arron et al. I have never seen her instigate an argument.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by WozMan

TBH I was quite neutral on Arron until this week. He's really gone off the deep end though since he got nominated.

And he WAS giving Deana the finger behind her back almost as soon as the tape rolled. Any nasty comments Deana has EVER made have been in response to nastiness from Arron et al. I have never seen her instigate an argument.

Are you watching what I am, she overheard a bit of his conversation with another housemate, nothing to do with her though, then she ran off to tell Benedict a totally false account of the conversation to make bother for Arron.

When Arron was pulled up by Benedict, Arron explained it totally and gave the accurate account of what he'd actually said, which if needed the other housemate he was talking to could have confirmed it.

Once it was all sorted, Deana kept quite that she had been the one who ran to tell Benedict, she has nevr owned up to it or apologised yet, the woman is rotten not to the core but from the core.

Add to that all her plotting and scheming aginst him behind his back from the first week with Lydia and you get a bit of the reason he cannot stand her, just as she cannot him either.

[Jords]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Are you watching what I am, she overheard a bit of his conversation with another housemate, nothing to do with her though, then she ran off to tell Benedict a totally false account of the conversation to make bother for Arron.

When Arron was pulled up by Benedict, Arron explained it totally and gave the accurate account of what he'd actually said, which if needed the other housemate he was talking to could have confirmed it.

Once it was all sorted, Deana kept quite that she had been the one who ran to tell Benedict, she has nevr owned up to it or apologised yet, the woman is rotten not to the core but from the core.

Add to that all her plotting and scheming aginst him behind his back from the first week with Lydia and you get a bit of the reason he cannot stand her, just as she cannot him either.

1) Arron implied that Benedict was boring, Deana just didnt beat around the bush, remember her and Bene were on the same side of course she was gonna say something. This is all backed up when Arron admits to Benedict that yes he did find the convo boring so I see no debate point here.
2) Arron has plot and schemed too, infact him Luke S and Conor were the first to start it until Lyds found out.

I remember on launch you saying youre going to support Arron because he looks like a close family member or friend (cant remember) I really do hope this is not the reason. But Im not gonna argue with ya Joey.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Jords

1) Arron implied that Benedict was boring, Deana just didnt beat around the bush, remember her and Bene were on the same side of course she was gonna say something. This is all backed up when Arron admits to Benedict that yes he did find the convo boring so I see no debate point here.
2) Arron has plot and schemed too, infact him Luke S and Conor were the first to start it until Lyds found out.

I remember on launch you saying youre going to support Arron because he looks like a close family member or friend (cant remember) I really do hope this is not the reason. But Im not gonna argue with ya Joey.

He didn't Jords, he said he had just had a conversation with Benedict that he thought was boring, he added that Benedict was really intelligent,too intelligent for him.

It was Deana who then went to Benedict and said that Arron had said Benedict was boring,leaving out the fact that he had said he found the conversation with Benedict boring.
I have watched that 5 times. he said the conversation was boring, not Benedict and then also added that Benedict was really intelligent.

A stark contrast to Deanas edited version.

I said on launch night that Arron looked like one of my cousins and that my cousin was glad he was in,that I had already had him on the phone saying he wants him kept in.

I however,make my own choices,at that time and for 2 weeks afterwards Luke S was my favourite housemate.
I have though found overall, not all the time, Arron to be entertaining to me,I am no ones poodle, I make my choices as to favourites from what I see and who entertains me the most,it just so happens Arron does,it has nothing to do with if he looks like one of my family, ironically he does,it does just so happen that near all my family that vote are in fact voting for Arron though.

I don't really get your point however,what had that to do with Deana trying to cause bother with her total inaccuracies as to Arrons conversation with someone else and not her.

[Beastie]

I thought all 4 of them in the diary room was hilarious. They were like annoying brothers and sisters to each other. I thought Aaron and Conor were funny with their little sarcy expressions and taking the piss. Deana's face in disgust was a picture.

[alex_front2]

Shockingly Arron was worse than Conor in DR.
In fact when Arron gave his first ' finger ' Conor had
good grace to look a bit stunned.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Beastie

I thought all 4 of them in the diary room was hilarious. They were like annoying brothers and sisters to each other. I thought Aaron and Conor were funny with their little sarcy expressions and taking the piss. Deana's face in disgust was a picture.

Oddly enough, the people I watched it with and others who I have spoken to on the phone thus far tonight near all say the same as you.
Thanks from me anyway for the light hearted post,it was badly needed.

[Jords]

Originally Posted by Beastie

I thought all 4 of them in the diary room was hilarious. They were like annoying brothers and sisters to each other. I thought Aaron and Conor were funny with their little sarcy expressions and taking the piss. Deana's face in disgust was a picture.

I can see why youd have that opinion if you looked at it as a snapshot but taking everything into consideration what happened before the DR entry and what followed its so much more than harmless sibling-like rivalry.

[vortex]

Becky and Deana! now this whole thing is gonna blow up on Arron once Conor leaves, cos Becky is gonna tell all to Scott, Lauren, Sara, Luke A and Caroline, the whole clip was awful.

[rinkydinkpanther]

Originally Posted by *Kate*

I think Deana and Becky came across well in the Diary Room, the lads showed themselves up to be pathetic cretins. Also it shows their attitude to women that they were sat in the hair while the girls sat on the floor.

Conor is vile full stop but Arron was worse tonight, sticking fingers up to the girls behind their backs. Complete idiot.

Glyn on BOTS has just commented on the girls sitting on the floor. Gareth Thomas also said that Conor is a horrible man.

Any man that champions these twats ought to be ashamed, its hardly a nice attitude and doesn't reflect well on yourselves.

Vote in the poll.

maybe youre need to name call the guys is abusive and a tad sexist and maybe it shows you may in fact be the real cretin

[hideki]

All this BS about the girls sitting on the floor...so what? I thought we were in an Equal age now? All the "real men" crap needs to stop. Granted Conor & Arron weren't exactly being polite or mature, but chalk it up to them as individuals, not as representatives of an entire gender. The misandry on the main show, BBBOTS and the forums needs to stop.

/get all four of 'em out.

[rinkydinkpanther]

Exactly this thread is the usual misandry anti male dumb sexist bile women have gotten away with for years...terms like man up ??? Meaningless sexist drivel..the women have spouted way more vile and far more abuse, calling adam a gorilla, calling all young men liars, stupid, moronic, mocking men who are overweight, mocking even their penises etc etc what have the guys done? Nothing.these guys are harmless and youre making them out to be escaped convicts , get a life you disingenuous hypocrites

[JTM45]

You don't spout 'vile', you spout 'bile'.

[Rawrbear]

I hope Becky and Deana go and tell all the other housemates how they acted.

[coolface]

Originally Posted by *Kate*

I think Deana and Becky came across well in the Diary Room, the lads showed themselves up to be pathetic cretins. Also it shows their attitude to women that they were sat in the hair while the girls sat on the floor.

Conor is vile full stop but Arron was worse tonight, sticking fingers up to the girls behind their backs. Complete idiot.

Glyn on BOTS has just commented on the girls sitting on the floor. Gareth Thomas also said that Conor is a horrible man.

Any man that champions these twats ought to be ashamed, its hardly a nice attitude and doesn't reflect well on yourselves.

Vote in the poll.

what utter sexist drivel, why is this a big deal? should the girls automatically get to sit in the chair because they're girls and the boys have to sit on the floor because they're boys? you sound like the type of woman who expects a man to give up his seat for you on the bus simply because he's a man, doesn't sound like equality to me, oh wait that's right you only want equality when it suits you

[Gizmo]

Conor's reaction afterwards when he heard Deana was crying after that episode in the diary room.......

"Comforting Deana in the bedroom, Scott remarked: “It’s just disgusting how they’re being. Don’t worry about it, people will see.”

The message was relayed to Conor in the living area, who remarked: “Good, I’m ******ing glad.”

[wendywillow]

Originally Posted by WozMan

TBH I was quite neutral on Arron until this week. He's really gone off the deep end though since he got nominated.

And he WAS giving Deana the finger behind her back almost as soon as the tape rolled. Any nasty comments Deana has EVER made have been in response to nastiness from Arron et al. I have never seen her instigate an argument.

yeah deana knew what he was doing so you cant blame her for snapping at him, arron blew any chance he had with that if it wasnt for conor hed probably be gone, they both came off horribly