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Omah · 20-11-2012, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kizzy

Well I guess they could if they could be bothered to get up, have one breckers, get to school and shovel another one in before 8am.....
Neither of mine would, prefer the extra time in their pits! haha!

The Blackpool plan doesn't mention a time .....

Shaun · 20-11-2012, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Nedusa

What a load of absolute nonsense....what's next buying them all new clothes and taking them all to Disneyland...!!!!

yes, that's really next. well done.

jesus wept.

Omah · 20-11-2012, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun

yes, that's really next. well done.

jesus wept.

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Originally Posted by Shaun

is there any news you don't complain about?

Me. I Am Salman · 20-11-2012, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kizzy

How come, were you embarrassed to?
Did many go to it?

no both my parents work I don't need to go

Vicky. · 20-11-2012, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Salman!

no both my parents work I don't need to go

My parents worked but my brother went to breakfast club. They werent around when I was young I dont think (breakfast clubs, not my parents

). He went because most of his friends did though, and it worked out quite well for my parents too as they could get to work earlier

Kizzy · 20-11-2012, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Omah

If pupils made the effort to get to school by 8AM, why did they not, alternatively, spend 10 more minutes on breakfast at home ?

Were their parents too poor to afford a bowl of cereal or a couple of slices of bread, i.e. were they living in the 1930's ?

I don't know omah...for the reasons I outlined earlier maybe there is no breakfast available at home.
It is hard to comprehend that some kids just don't get the basics that most take for granted..
for whatever reason.
We could sit in judgement, we could wring our hands...or, we could help them.

Kizzy · 20-11-2012, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Omah

The Blackpool plan doesn't mention a time .....

Omah...you are getting on my last nerve.....

8am was a guess as salman said his schools free breakfast ended at 8....OK!!!

Omah · 20-11-2012, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kizzy

I don't know omah...for the reasons I outlined earlier maybe there is no breakfast available at home.
It is hard to comprehend that some kids just don't get the basics that most take for granted..
for whatever reason.
We could sit in judgement, we could wring our hands...or, we could help them.

It's not a select few that are going to be fed, it's ALL primary school pupils, and probably secondary school students, in Blackpool - I wouldn't be surprised if McD* got the contract for the secondary schools .....

* Mine's a Double Bacon & Egg McMuffin with a Cappuccino .....

Livia · 20-11-2012, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Omah

If pupils made the effort to get to school by 8AM, why did they not, alternatively, spend 10 more minutes on breakfast at home ?

Were their parents too poor to afford a bowl of cereal or a couple of slices of bread, i.e. were they living in the 1930's ?

We often disagree... but not on this one.

Omah · 20-11-2012, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kizzy

Omah...you are getting on my last nerve.....

8am was a guess as salman said his schools free breakfast ended at 8....OK!!!

That was a breakfast club, though - a different concept .....

Kizzy · 20-11-2012, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Omah

It's not a select few that are going to be fed, it's ALL primary school pupils, and probably secondary school students, in Blackpool - I wouldn't be surprised if McD got the contract for the secondary schools .....

Omg! I got a right chill then... Stranger things happen, it would make the council quote of 2.1million about right then...
haha!

Kizzy · 20-11-2012, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Omah

That was a breakfast club, though - a different concept .....

how is it a different concept?
kids at salmans school eating together a breakfast provided free, and pupils in Blackpool eating together a breakfast provided free...

Omah · 20-11-2012, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kizzy

Omg! I got a right chill then... Stranger things happen, it would make the council quote of 2.1million about right then...
haha!

Unless KFC can do it cheaper .....

(Greggs might put in a bid yet .....

)

Omah · 20-11-2012, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kizzy

how is it a different concept?
kids at salmans school eating together a breakfast provided free, and pupils in Blackpool eating together a breakfast provided free...

It was mentioned that the former has a time limit and a payment alternative - the Blackpool plan has neither.

No mention of a provider for the former - was it the school, the parents, the local authority, the county council?

The former was a secondary school, Blackpool's plan is for primary schools

etc.

Kizzy · 20-11-2012, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Omah

It was mentioned that the former has a time limit and a payment alternative - the Blackpool plan has neither.

No mention of a provider for the former - was it the school, the parents, the local authority, the county council?

The former was a secondary school, Blackpool's plan is for primary schools

etc.

Of course there will be a time limit, it's a school not a costa coffee...
I'm sure that if you wanted to find out who the providers of those services were you could?
The 3 month trial is for primary, it mentions rolling the scheme out to secondary if successful.
I'm in favour, I think they should do a limited free lunch too!
beans on toast, pasta and sauce or a jacket spud.

Me. I Am Salman · 20-11-2012, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky.

My parents worked but my brother went to breakfast club. They werent around when I was young I dont think (breakfast clubs, not my parents

). He went because most of his friends did though, and it worked out quite well for my parents too as they could get to work earlier

oh.. it usually tended to be people who's parents were out of work that went to it in our school

Vicky. · 20-11-2012, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Salman!

oh.. it usually tended to be people who's parents were out of work that went to it in our school

Yeah it was mostly those in his. They got it for free IIRC, where my mum had to pay a tenner a week or something for my brother to go.

Omah · 20-11-2012, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kizzy

Of course there will be a time limit, it's a school not a costa coffee...
I'm sure that if you wanted to find out who the providers of those services were you could?
The 3 month trial is for primary, it mentions rolling the scheme out to secondary if successful.
I'm in favour, I think they should do a limited free lunch too!
beans on toast, pasta and sauce or a jacket spud.

You're making assumptions and drawing conclusions .....

Omah · 20-11-2012, 10:34 PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-20403137

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Three hundred jobs could go at Blackpool Council and services could be cut as it tries to save £13.5m in its budget next year, it has revealed.

Council leader Simon Blackburn described government funding cuts as "insane" as he unveiled the plans.

Workers will again be asked to take four days of unpaid leave. Talks with the unions are under way.

The council said some services would be protected, such as the illuminations and having social workers for children.

Library services will also be protected.

However, the Labour-run council said 200 jobs and 100 contract posts could be lost as a result of the budget cuts.

Previously :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-17160762

24 February 2012

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Blackpool Council has agreed to slash its spending by £10.6m in the coming year and cut 75 jobs.

Councillors agreed a £144.2m budget and a council tax freeze with the bulk of the savings - £5.8m - coming from the social services budget.

Back office costs will be reduced by £2m and nearly £1m will come from a thinned tier of senior management.

Last year's budget saw 750 posts lost.

Over 1,000 jobs lost in 3 years but £2.1m found to fund kids breakfasts .....

Scarlett. · 20-11-2012, 10:51 PM

I don't see a problem with this, if there is one thing the council should still invest in, it's schools, I think giving this a trial run is a good idea, not all parents have time to make their kids breakfast in the morning.

Kizzy · 20-11-2012, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Omah

You're making assumptions and drawing conclusions .....

Am I..Oh...
assuming breakfast will not be served throughout the school day?
That you are able to research information if you wished to?
Concluding that the link you posted has mentioned extending the scheme to secondary schools?

Omah · 20-11-2012, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kizzy

Am I..Oh...
assuming breakfast will not be served throughout the school day?
That you are able to research information if you wished to?
Concluding that the link you posted has mentioned extending the scheme to secondary schools?

The only facts are in the link, all else is speculation .....

Kizzy · 20-11-2012, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Omah

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-20403137

Previously :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-17160762

24 February 2012

Over 1,000 jobs lost in 3 years but £2.1m found to fund kids breakfasts .....

Yes, this streamlining of services is nationwide..
It is not specific to Blackpool, and if this has been trialled elsewhere ( maybe salmans area was also a pilot?) and found to be successful, then they are justified.
I'm just a parent omah, not a professional in matters of council funding.
If what has been applied previously is not working, then I applaud them for trying a new approach and not just sitting on their hands watching the situation deteriorate further.