[arista]

This was debated on FoxNews Red Eye
early this morning.


If all the Fat Americans get a Free
Gastrick band fitted
it will save the USA health service billions.

Originally Posted by arista

This was debated on FoxNews Red Eye
early this morning.


If all the Fat Americans get a Free
Gastrick band fitted
it will save the USA health service billions.

Fox news doesn't agree with giving any health care away for free. Isn't that classed as communism to them?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

Fox news doesn't agree with giving any health care away for free. Isn't that classed as communism to them?

Its Red Eye on FoxNews

A Scottish guest said it


Red Eye does not broadcast Fox News Style

Youtube video

Here is one from last May.

That Gavin McInnes on there its his idea
but broadcast this morning


You will Like Gavin

[Kizzy]

Yep! What is it with portions over there...
I don't mean to be rude to the American posters, is that man v food thing real?
He asks for a sandwich and they give him enough food to feed a family of for four a weeek!
Whats all that about?

[InOne]

He goes to the gym loads inbetween the challanges and doesn't eat anything the day he does them.

[Kizzy]

That's not the point, the places he visits serve massive meals all the time to everyone.
This level of gluttony is revolting.

[InOne]

He's just a man who likes his food

[arista]

Originally Posted by InOne

He's just a man who likes his food

He is making Money
Thats his Job.

But today by Gavin on Red Eye this morning
means all ( if )
the Fat Americans get Free Gastrick Fited bands
and that means they no longer need hospitals.
Saving billions of dollars

If Americans want to kill themselves with food, we should be encouraging them not pointing out the error of their ways.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by arista

He is making Money
Thats his Job.

But today by Gavin on Red Eye this morning
means all ( if )
the Fat Americans get Free Gastrick Fited bands
and that means they no longer need hospitals.
Saving billions of dollars

But living in the UK, that really means nothing to me lol

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

If Americans want to kill themselves with food, we should be encouraging them, not trying to point out the error of their ways.

No this is about Massive Saving Health Costings.
once the Gastrick band is fitted they Eat less.

It would change America

[arista]

Originally Posted by InOne

But living in the UK, that really means nothing to me lol

It does as The UK Health Service is doing Free Gastrick bands
in some zones

[Kizzy]

We are 5 years behind them, soon our cafes will have troughs outside and buckets of cola for everyone too!
Has anyone seen 'supersize me' by Morgan Spurlock?

Originally Posted by arista

No this is about Massive Saving Health Costings.
once the Gastrick band is fitted they Eat less.

It would change America

That's not true Arista. Many people return to eating massive amounts. Food is both a physical and mental issue.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

That's not true Arista. Many people return to eating massive amounts. Food is both a physical and mental issue.

yes but a Free Gastrick band for all those over the weight
they set - stops over eating.

Originally Posted by arista

yes but a Free Gastrick band for all those over the weight
they set - stops over eating.

It stops it for a while, not forever. There are bigger issues involved rather than just cutting the stomach in half.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

It stops it for a while, not forever. There are bigger issues involved rather than just cutting the stomach in half.

This is a Money Deal
and the presidents Health Care is having money trouble

[Kizzy]

He will be cursing the day he provided free healthcare, any idea how much obesity costs the NHS?

Originally Posted by arista

This is a Money Deal
and the presidents Health Care is having money trouble

Well here's the facts - the presidents healthcare bill actually reduces costs. You may think this particular bill is having trouble, but the real issue is that healthcare providers get to vastly overcharge patients for care.

If they had universal healthcare, they would save billions, but the right are in bed with the insurance companies and refuse to allow anything like that to happen.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

Well here's the facts - the presidents healthcare bill actually reduces costs. You may think this particular bill is having trouble, but the real issue is that healthcare providers get to vastly overcharge patients for care.

If they had universal healthcare, they would save billions, but the right are in bed with the insurance companies and refuse to allow anything like that to happen.

I find myself agreeing with all of that.

As for the issue of free gastric bands, perhaps the money might be better spent on providing counselling for people who clearly have issues with food. Like JHC says, they will go back to overeating eventually.

Originally Posted by Livia

I find myself agreeing with all of that.

As for the issue of free gastric bands, perhaps the money might be better spent on providing counselling for people who clearly have issues with food. Like JHC says, they will go back to overeating eventually.

Well if you didn't, I'd get really angry and shout at you.

Originally Posted by Kizzy

He will be cursing the day he provided free healthcare, any idea how much obesity costs the NHS?

He doesn't provide free healthcare. They provide it to some people, but most Americans pay thousands of dollars a year in insurance premiums.

A couple of years ago, more bankruptcies were caused by healthcare costs than any other reason in the US. That was in a global meltdown. I don't know how those figures stack up today, but I'd guess they'd still be pretty similar.

The right wing in America even held up a bill to provide ongoing healthcare to the first responders on 9/11. People who are dying because of the toxic environment they faced on that day.

Nothing is free in America. Even basic human rights and dignity.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

Well if you didn't, I'd get really angry and shout at you.

Ooo I'm scared.

I'm sure there are lots of obese people in the UK already getting gastric bands on the NHS. I remember seeing a programme about it where a woman up for a gastric band would buy loads and loads of junk food on a Friday night and gorge herself with it. She found it almost impossible to lose the small amount of weight - ten pounds or something - that would show she was serious about losing weight and get her a free gastric band. That's not a physical weight issue, it's a mental issue.

Food plays on the same parts of the brain as sex and love, I believe. It's easier for unmotivated, depressed, fat people to reward their brains with burgers than it is the real thing.

[Livia]

I need to go and get some lunch....