[arista]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21878027



No Abbott
Schools are protected
Piss off you back bench moran


Will she ban fit men on bill boards - NO

[the truth]

maybe if her government hadnt detsroyed families and fatherhood, kids would have more protection and parentship at home teaching them right from wrong and protecting them against these images online and on tv etc

[lostalex]

Rudy Gulianni did this for Times Square in the 90's. Some people praise him for it, others say he turned Times Square into Disneyland.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by the truth

maybe if her government hadnt detsroyed families and fatherhood, kids would have more protection and parentship at home teaching them right from wrong and protecting them against these images online and on tv etc

This current government are doing much more to destroy families and fatherhood IMO.

The bedroom tax is extremely discriminatory against joint custody parents who have their kids on weekends/holidays/etc. And 9 times out of 10, that is the father. Yet he is now told he cant have a bedroom for the kids anymore.

Obviously this is only low paid/unemployed people. But it is still going to pull apart a lot of families.


On topic..I kind of agree with Dianne here. It pains me to say that as I think she is an utter twat usually.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

This current government are doing much more to destroy families and fatherhood IMO.

The bedroom tax is extremely discriminatory against joint custody parents who have their kids on weekends/holidays/etc. And 9 times out of 10, that is the father. Yet he is now told he cant have a bedroom for the kids anymore.

Obviously this is only low paid/unemployed people. But it is still going to pull apart a lot of families.

yes I agree on that point, its pitiful penny pinching

overall though labour were the worst government in british history, scum of the earth. they destroyed EVERYTHING. at least these idiots have started to reduce unemployment by a few hundred thousand. overall though theyre almost as bad as the last lot. if the english press werent so racist perhaps gordon brown would have had afair chance. despite his failings, he was right on europe and the euro and he was right about growing our way out of a recession as america have successfully done. obama took browns advice.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

This current government are doing much more to destroy families and fatherhood IMO.

The bedroom tax is extremely discriminatory against joint custody parents who have their kids on weekends/holidays/etc. And 9 times out of 10, that is the father. Yet he is now told he cant have a bedroom for the kids anymore.

Obviously this is only low paid/unemployed people. But it is still going to pull apart a lot of families.


On topic..I kind of agree with Dianne here. It pains me to say that as I think she is an utter twat usually.

Its only a 5 year gig.

No I do not agree with this Cocky MP

Industry is growing
and a new Car any place in this World
will have Fit Women around it.

Sign Of The Times

[Suze]

That's not a great photo of her is it. Or does she always look that miserable.

[the truth]

shes a lying stoat

[arista]

Originally Posted by Suze

That's not a great photo of her is it. Or does she always look that miserable.

yes she looks that bad

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Suze

That's not a great photo of her is it. Or does she always look that miserable.

She always looks like that

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

This current government are doing much more to destroy families and fatherhood IMO.

The bedroom tax is extremely discriminatory against joint custody parents who have their kids on weekends/holidays/etc. And 9 times out of 10, that is the father. Yet he is now told he cant have a bedroom for the kids anymore.

Obviously this is only low paid/unemployed people. But it is still going to pull apart a lot of families.

On topic..I kind of agree with Dianne here. It pains me to say that as I think she is an utter twat usually.

Actually, despite the furore about the bedroom tax and the rumour about the minimum wage - because that's what it is at the moment, a rumour.... This present government has cut income tax for 24 million working people and taken over 2 million people out of income tax altogether with the biggest rise in tax free earnings by any government, ever.

And on topic... Dianne Abbot is a liability. How she got away with some of the stuff she has in her career is a mystery.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Actually, despite the furore about the bedroom tax and the rumour about the minimum wage - because that's what it is at the moment, a rumour.... This present government has cut income tax for 24 million working people and taken over 2 million people out of income tax altogether with the biggest rise in tax free earnings by any government, ever.

And on topic... Dianne Abbot is a liability. How she got away with some of the stuff she has in her career is a mystery.

That doesnt change the fact that the bedroom 'tax' (as I know its not a tax, just what its commonly called) is discriminatory against seperated parents...moreoften the fathers.

Or that its unfair pretty much any way you look at it.

I'm actually better off because of the recent budget. But I still dont like what they are doing to those worse off than me.

[Livia]

I agree that there should be exceptional circumstances regarding the bedroom thing, and it has definitely not been thought right through to the end. Separated families, like you say, should be a special circumstance, as should people who foster, people who have family serving with HM Forces and several other bits of fine-tuning that really need to be addressed. However, there are a lot of people living in social housing with more bedrooms than they need while larger families are squished into properties that are too small.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Suze

That's not a great photo of her is it. Or does she always look that miserable.

laugh lines don't look good when yur not laughing.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by lostalex

laugh lines don't look good when yur not laughing.

And realistically, nothing's that funny.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Livia

How she got away with some of the stuff she has in her career is a mystery.

Is it though? is it REALLY a mystery?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Is it though? is it REALLY a mystery?

What you implying Alex?!?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Livia

What you implying Alex?!?

I'm implying that having perspectives other than just rich str8 white men in parliament is important. And to have a bunch of rich str8 white men ganging up on an old fat black woman, would be unsightly, so of course that would be taken into consideration.

[Lee.]

Hmm.. I have to say I agree with her!

[Kizzy]

I think she is right, we all know sex sells but it is getting beyond a joke now. And as for raising the lower rate of tax what purpose does this serve? Surely everyone contributing fairly is a better solution than penalising the poorest, squeezing the middle and giving tax breaks to the richest?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I'm implying that having perspectives other than just rich str8 white men in parliament is important. And to have a bunch of rich str8 white men criticizing her, would be unsightly, so of course that would be taken into consideration.

It's not her perspectives I dislike, it's her propensity for playing the race card when it suits her (there, I've said it...) and for her disingenuousness throughout her whole career.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Livia

It's not her perspectives I dislike, it's her propensity for playing the race card when it suits her (there, I've said it...) and for her disingenuousness throughout her whole career.

I don't disagree. I've seen her on Question Time plenty of times, and i think you've characterized her fairly and accurately.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Livia

It's not her perspectives I dislike, it's her propensity for playing the race card when it suits her (there, I've said it...) and for her disingenuousness throughout her whole career.

Yes, this is the main reason I cannot stand the woman too.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Suze

That's not a great photo of her is it. Or does she always look that miserable.

Usually yes she does Suze.

I don't disagree with all she says but don't agree with a lot, there are some things she believes strongly in though and this is one of them.

However as to Diane Abbott,I think Livia has it spot on as to her actually.

[the truth]

shes just a populist politician who always plays the race card and the sex discrimination card, she is ignorant as hell in debate, always talks over people too